Kill Osama bin Laden, Kill him 50 times over that miserable piece of Crap!

[trumad]

And then go out and kill every Son of a Bitch who is led by him!

Yah...I just watched HBO's Memorial 9/11 and I'm pissed all over again!

[HootieMcBoob]

1. W will get him

dead or alive...remember? :dunce:

[seventhson]

2. Uhhhh--- Did You Forget? Bush Made it Happen On Purpose

Osama was working for Carlyle and the CIA...

[DemBones DemBones]

3. Are you sure he's responsible for 9/11? Has he ever said he

was? I saw "Fat Osama and the Crippled Sheik" but. . . :shrug:

[Cooley Hurd]

4. The perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks were pure evil.

There is nothing, NOTHING that warrants such a horrific attack on civilians.

What we've done to the Iraqi civilian population in the 1991 and 2003 conflicts is equally shameful/

[freedude]

39. What I can` understand-

Is how these assholes can look in the mirror to shave, and not at least contemplate suicide from sheer guilty concience- but these guys will stop at nothing to achieve their ends... pure evil is too polite a term, there are no words to describe these monsters.

[NNN0LHI]

5. Osama bin Laden was...

...more than likely killed in 1998 when Clinton ordered the air strikes. As many have said before, if there was no bin Laden the CIA would have had to invent one. And they did too. Its all smoke and mirrors to cover for Bush and his cabal of criminals as they have and continue to loot our treasury. One does not steal an election for honorable reasons. We have all been sold a bill of goods by old man Bush's CIA. Your rational thinking are belong to me.

Don

Bin Laden tape is old material - French expert

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L11475720.htm

PARIS, Sept 11 (Reuters) - A leading French terrorism expert cautioned on Thursday against taking the latest Osama bin Laden video at face value, saying it was largely an edited collection of old footage and sound tracks that have already been aired. snip

But Roland Jacquard, head of the Paris-based International Observatory on Terrorism, told French radio that the tape was above all a show of defiance on the eve of the September 11 anniversary by al Qaeda number two al-Zawahri.

"We have to be extremely prudent about this message," Jacquard told Europe 1 radio.

"Given that Osama bin Laden has not appeared on a video cassette for many months it's pretty incomprehensible that in the only video cassette where he appears beside Ayman al-Zawahri he doesn't speak, he just allows the latter to speak.

"The voice of bin Laden we hear in the background, thanking the World Trade Center plane hijackers, is exactly the same message that was broadcast in a video cassette by Al Jazeera on 26 December 2001," he said.

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[leesa]

8. Iagree...OBL is either long smoked or part of the cabal....

same mentality as bush.

[brokensymmetry]

6. I know what you mean.

I keep thinking of the innocent people in that building - trapped by the fire, nowhere to go, no way to escape. I can't even imagine the level of pure rage I would feel if I had lost anyone.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

7. Don't forget George Bush and the PNAC cabal that created Bin Laden!

Or do you only call for the killing of Muslims?

[IranianDemocrat]

23. Utter bullshit.

Or do you only call for the killing of Christians?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

35. Which part is bullshit?

Just because you make the declarative statement that someone else's statement was "utter bullshit" doesn't make it so. Do you have any justification for your accusation?

[Devils Advocate NZ]

38. Please highlight where I called for the killing of christians?

Or are you just a mildly insane (ie unable to recognise reality) christian?

I never said ANYTHING about killing christians, in fact I never even MENTIONED christians.

What I said was that George Bush and hs PNAC buddies CREATED Bin Laden, and THEY ADMIT IT!

They pushed fundamentalist Islam to encourage Arabs to go to Afghanistan to fight against the Soviets in order to give them their "Viet Nam". Al Qaeda was created as part of this CIA project.

Bin Laden (from a family LONG in business with the Bush family) went to Afghanistan - where his belief in terrorism was refined, and he was shown that terrorism can defeat a superpower. The CIA (now based in the George Bush Center for Intelligence) TRAINED Bin Laden in all the tactics he now uses on the US.

It is NOT IMPOSSIBLE that Bin Laden STILL works for the CIA and Bush families, but even if he truly is the "black sheep", he was still CREATED by the Bush and PNAC madmen.

[Enraged_Ape]

45. Do a Google search on "bin-Laden" and "mujahadeen"

Prepare to be educated.

And I didn't see anyone calling for killing of Christians anywhere, so I think you need to speak to your physician about adjusting your meds.

[Sweetpea]

9. Unless you believe there was remote control making those planes

crash into the buildings....those guys would not have died for Bush.

[NNN0LHI]

10. You left out one other option

How did these people know who they were really working for? Did any of them actually meet with bin Laden? Do we know if any of them were ever actually in Afghanistan? If someone wants to believe this plot was planned in some Afghan cave that is fine with me. But I don't buy it. Every bit of planning or training that I have ever heard about was done in either the USA or Germany. Surely if they had been to Afhanistan there would have to be some sort of paper trail. Airline tickets, hotel or credit card receipts. Something. But what has been pesented to us as proof? Nothing. Who paid for all of the flight training and for these guys? And who paid for their rent, food, hotel bills, rental cars, and the purchase numerous airplane tickets? Do we even know that?

Don

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1802&ncid=1802&e=5&u=/washpost/20030911/ts_washpost/a51669_2003sep9

Who Aided Hijackers Is Still Mystery

Two years after al Qaeda terrorists slammed jetliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, FBI and congressional investigators remain deeply divided over whether the 19 hijackers received help from other al Qaeda operatives inside the United States and still are unable to answer some of the central questions in the case.

The uncertainties persist despite the largest FBI investigation in U.S. history -- which has included 180,000 interviews and 7,000 agents -- and raise the possibility that Americans will never know precisely how the conspirators were able to pull off the most devastating terrorist attacks in U.S. history.

"We know quite a bit about the attacks," FBI counterterrorism chief Larry Mefford said last week. "Unfortunately, we don't know everything."

Some of the doubts surround intriguing details: Investigators still have no firm grasp on why the hijacker pilots booked layovers in Las Vegas during apparent practice runs on commercial airliners in 2001. Authorities also have found no definitive explanation for why ringleader Mohamed Atta and another hijacker, Abdulaziz Alomari, began their suicidal journey on Sept. 11, 2001, with a seemingly risky commuter flight from Portland, Maine, to Boston -- coming within minutes of missing their flights out of both cities. And what exactly was discussed at a pivotal meeting in Kuala Lumpur in January 2000, where investigators believe -- but cannot prove -- that the Sept. 11 plot was put in motion?

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http://news.theolympian.com/specialsections/TerrorinAmerica/20020430/15779.shtml

Sept. 11 hijackers left no paper trail, FBI chief says

Global hunt uncovers little evidence, Robert Mueller reports

LOS ANGELES TIMES

Originally published Tuesday, April 30, 2002

WASHINGTON -- For more than seven months, U.S. authorities probing the Sept. 11 attacks have scoured everything from caves to credit cards in the expectation that they would ultimately discover how the 19 hijackers plotted their brazen scheme.

But the global search has produced virtually nothing in the way of hard evidence about the hijackers' planning, and authorities said Monday that they now face the growing realization that they may never know many key details.

That sobering conclusion underscores the skill and sophistication of the al-Qaida network in its ability to conceal its activities -- and the equally daunting difficulties that authorities face in heading off another attack, officials said.

The hijackers "left no paper trail," FBI Director Robert Mueller III said in the text of a speech the FBI released Monday. "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper -- either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere -- that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot."

His remarks offer the FBI's most comprehensive and detailed assessment to date of its investigation, remarkable as much for what investigators have not found as for what they have.

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[friendofbenn]

12. meacher said

in his article that at least 5 of the hi-jackers were trained in the u.s. why is it so difficult for people to believe that bush gives a damn about killing americans? he doesnt give a damn about killing anyone else so why should americans be any different?

[Pastiche423]

13. "Do we even know that?"

We actually know nothing.

I thought for sure that Powell would deliver the "white paper" he promised us, as a second anniversary gift.

Alas, I suppose it was not to be and we must forever be kept in the dark as to who the true culprit was.

[freedude]

17. Real culprit?

It`s pretty obvious to me who the perpetrators were. Think about it- the Bushies and the intelligence agencies claim to this day that they were taken by surprise on 9/11, never had a clue it was coming...but two or three hours after the attacks, they had it all nailed down, had photos and names of the so called hi jackers plastered all over television- gimme a frikkin` break- did everybody in this country fall of the turnip truck 10 minutes ago? I really am beginning to wonder about that....Anyone remember Pearl Harbor? Same type of situation, almost... Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen to take the country into World War Two- 9/11 was made to happen, to justify an invasion of the Middle East.

[NNN0LHI]

19. And why did Ashcroft stop flying on commercial airlines July 26, 2001?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml

Ashcroft Flying High

(CBS) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

A senior official at the CIA said he was unaware of specific threats against any Cabinet member, and Ashcroft himself, in a speech in California, seemed unsure of the nature of the threat.

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[freedude]

25. Hmmmm-

Maybe Asscroft and company knew what was coming- noooo, our beloved government would never murder, or allow the murder of their own citizens....?

[aquart]

27. He lied. He went on TV and lied.

He assured the American public that he and his family were going to be flying commercial jets all August.

He said it on a Sunday pundit show.

[Minstrel Boy]

34. The more I look at 9/11, the less I think of

Pearl Harbour 1941, and the more I think of Dallas 1963.

[Yupster]

37. Clinton was in Australia

he said as soon as he heard about it, he instantly thought it was OBL.

Or maybe it wasn't Clinton after all. Maybe Dick Chaney had kidnapped Clinton and made the Clinton statements si people would think Clinton said that.

[NNN0LHI]

50. I thought OBL did it too. Until I realized there was no proof whatsover

Everyone including myself thought it was Arabs that bombed the Murrah federal building killing and maiming hundreds too. That is why the US was stopping every dark skinned person trying to get on an airplane leaving the USA that day too. But guess what? It was not an Arab person. It was two right wing American born nut cases who did it. Funny how things work. Isn't it?

Don

[IranianDemocrat]

21. All I want is 5 minutes alone with Bin Laden.

That would make my day.

[Yupster]

36. Maybe Bush was

wearing Bin Laden mask and fake beard when he ordered the hghjackers to kill themselves. Therefore, they thought they were fighting for Bin Laden, but they were really doing the bidding of the BFEE.

[Devils Advocate NZ]

42. Or, Bin Laden ISN'T the 'black sheep' of the family...

and, like the rest of the Bin Laden family, has been doing business with the Bushes all along?

[Devils Advocate NZ]

41. Did the US soldiers who died in Iraq do it for oil?

Or do you think they may have been misled as to the true reasons for the attack?

Same goes for the hijackers. Even if we assume that hijackers were on the planes and wanting to die for Islam, that doesn't mean that the money, planning and indoctrination came from people who give a shit about Islam.

Did you know that Arabs were told in CIA paid for propaganda campaigns that dying to rid Afghanistan of the godless commies was a duty of good Muslims? Do you think the CIA really gave a shit about Islam, or do you think they were just manipulating Arabs into fighting the CIA's war?

Maybe the propaganda campaigns never stopped.

[cliss]

11. NNNOLHI I'm with you.

Let's not forget that this administration has a huge need to create a "bad guy", for various reasons. One is to whip up public anger, to justify decisions to go to war, attack other countries. If it wasn't Osama, it would be somebody else. As a matter of fact, it was. Notice how he was promptly forgotten as soon as a new convenient "bad guy" was located.

This administration has a huge vested interest in keeping US citizens angry at someone, in this case Osama. It takes the focus away from domestic problems. It scared the bejeezus out of most folks, and they allowed a lot of their freedoms to be taken away "for the sake of security". For a while, at least, people forget about the dismal state of the economy, and unemployment.

There's more to it than meets the eye. Stan Goff does a good job of explaining all this. Look up his article on Not in Our Name.

[NNN0LHI]

16. And I am keeping an open mind on this too

If and when some evidence is presented for us to see, I will give it some serious consideration. But until then I refuse to believe a damn thing I am told simply because Chimpy told me so. I need something better than that. A lot better.

Don

[maha]

46. The Bushies aren't competent enough ...

... to have planned and orchestrated 9/11. The only thing they're good at is setting up photo ops.

However, Bush either knew about it and let it happen, or he and his minions just plain ignored the warnings because they are incompetent.

[Enraged_Ape]

47. Phillip K. Dick implored us to always ask the question, "Who gains?"

I don't see how Osama has gained anything from the WTC attack. He is persona non grata around the world. If al-Qaeda has gained any followers in the last two years, I think that has more to do with the BFEE's foreign policy in the Middle East than anything else.

On the other hand, the BFEE has gained EVERYTHING they wanted since the attacks, beyond even their wildest dreams.

"Who gains?" Think about it.

[Proletarian]

14. He is a terrorist.

And should be tried and detained, possibly executed, no doubt. But what about people like GW Bush and the congress, that authorize acts of state terrorism that result in much worse ends?

Don't get emotional and go on a lynch-fest, I would advise. We have the power to stop further death by our countries hands, and we should focus on that.

[fabius]

15. I agree: kill bin Laden...

If we ever find him. Seem to have gotten distracted on that Iraq thing, like Saddam may have been the real perpetrator. NO? Well maybe he had WMD's anyhow. NO? Well maybe he's easier to find. NO? Well...

OBL is probably already in custody (Musharraf)and will be delivered to Bush (his body anyway) on September 11 2004. Followed in December 2004 by an immense aid package for Pakistan. Probably including those F-16's this time. And maybe $20 million personal gift for Pervez out of the Bush campaign kitty. How do you think he's going to spend all that money? :tinfoilhat:

[Porcupine]

18. Try it, it will get you nowhere there are too many heads......

too many people willing to step up and do the planning and build the bombs. The truth is that the U.S. has made too many enemies in the Islamic world.

They're pissed. We've bombed their families and starved them and taken the fruits of their labor. They hate us and rightly so. But we can just keep killing them. It works so well for Israel right.

[NNN0LHI]

20. Not just the Islamic world either. Tim McVeigh was a Catholic Republican

How soon we forget.

Don

[GirlinContempt]

22. Wouldn't that make...

the 'killer' (in this case, I'm assuming you mean the government) a 'terrorist' by its own definition?

[IranianDemocrat]

24. The death penalty is terrorism?

Sorry but I wouldn't go that far...

[GirlinContempt]

26. No, it isn't

But commiting a violent act that would be illegal if commited within the United States or any state is considered terrorism.

So, unless he's captured, fairly tried, proven guilty, and sentanced to death, wouldn't it be considered one?

[IranianDemocrat]

28. I guess so.

Good point.

[GirlinContempt]

30. Thanks

The US Code on terrorism is really... interesting... and ironic :)

[CoffeePlease1947]

29. Yes, parachute UBL into downtown New York, right at groud zero

I don't think he would live very long. Unless, the people of NYC wanted him to live while they tortured him for about 15 days.

Mike

[freedude]

33. If-

they want vengeance, they`d do well to look closer to home-Bin Laden is just another Oswald.

[IranianDemocrat]

31. The best punishment for Bin Laden is not death.

I would make the bastard sit in a cell and watch the home movies of the baptisms, births marriages etc. of every single person who died on 9-11.

[maha]

44. Give him to the Taliban (AFTER a sex change operation)

Not an original idea. An American Muslim woman I met thought it up.

[Forkboy]

32. While understandable

this hatred plays right into the hands of both the terrorists and Bush,Inc.

[Blitz]

40. Here's something to read ...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/111bxywd.asp

It may upset you all over again but I don't think that that's necessarily a bad thing.

[trumad]

43. I have no doubt that Bin Laden orchestrated the attack

And no I am not some cherry DU'er who thinks he was alone.... I say take 10 billion form the 89 Bill and use it to kill the bastard once and for all.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

48. Binladen must be caught alive, then killed

I want him to talk. Then we can execute him. I'm against the death penalty, but I am making an exception.

[VermontDem2004]

49. woohoo!!!!

dead by harmless lethal injection, that will really send a message to him. <sarcasm> It is much worse spending the rest of your life in cell then be executed, the death penalty is wrong in any case.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

51. I'm fine with keeping him in a cage

I just want him to talk. I want to get information about who where and how he got his money and support. I want to hear him testify against his three brothers that have been financing terrorism and doing business with the Bushes for one.

[Neecy]

52. dead or alive - another lie

Bin Laden alive serves the BFEE far better than a dead Bin Laden - by waving the spectre of future attacks in our faces constantly, they can continue their imperialistic wars and crackdown on civil liberties in the United States.

Bin Laden is the administrations boogie man and allows them to perpetuate this climate of fear. I can't imagine why they want him dead, when he's so useful to their agenda. No wonder they can't "find" him.

And the references to Dallas in 1963 are spot on - the fact that they identified the hijackers within hours (and had photos, no less) reminds me of how they fingered Oswald within minutes of the shooting. Doesn't pass the smell test.