Jerusalem Post Reporting that Arafat should be killed? What is this Bush

[KoKo]

has taken over the world? Are we now to kill every leader of every group that we don't agree with? How will this be seen all over the world? What about courts, laws, our justice system, what about the average Israeli citizen. Would they advocate Arafat to be killed and put on display like Uday and Qusay were? Is this what we are going to. Grizzly public displays of murdered leaders of other religious movements?

All I hear on the cables is the word KILL lately. Has anyone else noticed how the word is used so frequently by the talking heads and pundits.

CNN is reporting that Jerusalem Post has an editoral that Arafat should be killed....and they had a reporter discussing the article.

I don't understand how religious people can talk about killing so lightly. The Ten Commandments says explicitly: "Thou Shalt Not Kill." All those folks who want the Ten Commandments displayed everywhere seem to have forgotten that inluding our Fundie President who Prays and says God speaks to him and his fundie followers and now some Jewish leaders?

What kind of God do these people follow if they don't listen to what they say is his word? What kind of hypocrits would defy all laws and human civility to advocate Murdering as a justification for every person you just don't like because they think differently than you? I feel we are going back to some brutal, dark time.....before there were laws and enlightenment. How did we get to this dark time. It can't be all Bush.......there's something deeper here....He has support for his views. There is a sickness bubbling up in America and now Israel......where next.........

[wryter2000]

1. Sick, sick, sick

And not only is it morally wrong, but it doesn't work, anyway. Any violence or forcible removal taken against Arafat will only create more terrorism. What is wrong with the people in charge?

[Nevernose]

2. I am very pro-Israel

but the leadership in Israel these days is frighteningly bad. Have these people never heard the word "martyr"?

Unless they're trying to provoke the Palestinians into one last, big, final war, which is just as stupid.

[Mari333]

3. Look no further then the reich wing evangelicals in the USA

if you want to see why the BFEE and Israel are buddy buddy

and wish for Armageddon

http://www.iraqwar.org/Armageddonupdates.htm

[bloom]

9. The odd thing is if you click on the link in the upper right

"Americans Against World Empire, Americans Against Bombing" it goes to a page that has links informing against neo-cons, for peace, against media lies, and so on and so forth. It could be just about be DU only it isn't designed as well.

[Nevernose]

10. I wasn't referring to the Armageddon

Just a big, final war to solve Israel's "problem" once and for all.

I don't buy the Christian-right-wants-Armageddon theory, btw. Bush just talks like a Christian; I seriously doubt if he's actually read any of the bible (Al Franken will back me up on this, if you've read his book).

I don't buy it because I am far from a right-winger, have not been brainwashed by the mainstream media, and am not particularly Christian (or Buddhist, or Hindu, or anyhting else) ... yet I personally take a very hard-line stance at what I percieve to be fifty years of Arab and Palestinian aggression towards the Jewish people, while the Israeli Jews have done very little to deserve the world's animosity.

However, no matter how pro-Israel I am, I will be the first to say that Sharon is a screw-up, electing him was a screw-up, and removing Arafat will just be the latest in a long line of Sharon-led screw-ups.

[chookie]

19. What do you think of this?

I have noticed a slant in a lot of coverage of Israel/Palestine, in which a connection is made between Israel and America being united at the soul since Sept 11. The underlying theme is that what the US experienced on Sept 11 is the same as what Israel experiences -- the same incoherent madness of violent terrorists who hate freedom and democracy. Palestinians are terrorists, and therefore America -- which is waging war against them in Iraq and elsewhere -- should support Israel in its effects to eradicate them. Senators Rick Santorum and Feinstein are seeking to put forth legislation which will stop federal funds going to public universities which are critical of Israel. Arlen Spector has called for Palestinians terrorists to be extradicted to the US, where they would face the death penalty (Israel imposes death penalty only in high treason cases, and very rarely). I think there was a message being transmitted to the American people, that they needed to think differently about Israel/Palestine, and start hating the Palestinians the same way they hate the perpetrators of Sept 11 -- and so to not mind when Israel starts killing them off in a determined fashion.

I think there are some wackos in the US and elsewhere, and in Israel, which want to see The End Times come. But there are also people who just want to see a big bloody war that will wipe opponents of Israel out. I think the Neocons are in this latter group -- they really think that wars can settle things like that! I sure don't think so! It would just make everything worse.

[Born_a_Democrat]

4. Sounds Like ANN COULTER

had something to do with that....

BIG BOLD LETTERS:

I AM HAVING SUCH A GREAT TIME READING AL'S BOOK

LOL...I actually look Forward to Reading now...Instead of fuming at the attrocities and verbal abortions that I hear about coming out of *'s piehole

[tom_paine]

5. Just a sign of the Coming Age of Totalitarianism

Kicked off by the Bloodless Coup of 2000!

Amerikan Newcast circa 2028: "The Free People of Amerika, displaying their deep and free love of freedom, demonstrated the meaning of freedom to the unpatriotic people who used to be Amerikan citizen, but are now held for their own protection in Freedom Camps around the country. This was done by Emperor George P. Bush with great compassion and the sadness that only the leader of a Free People could have. But in the end, Free Citizens of Amerika simply could not contain their outrage and having their freedom insulted and denigrated by this unpatriots who dared to question the Leader of the Free World, George P. Bush's freedom-loving policies..."

"In other news free free freely freeedom youarefree youarefree obeyobey freedommeans obediance..."

[ameriphile]

6. Too many conservatives

wield the Bible with one hand, and an assault rifle with the other. They'll quote the ten commandments when it suits them, and they'll start needless wars when it suits them.

Hypocrisy has become the cornerstone of American conservatism.

[uptohere]

7. while its foolish for them to say this, haven't they thought it for years

While I have no use for this guy who has done everything in his power to stymie peace in that region and I certainly would not be sorry to see him die, you can't just shoot him because you don't like him. If this was OK how many of us (any of us) would be left standing ?

And their current tit for tat policy of vaporizing terrorists is not justification either.

Peace will never come while Arafat lives but the guy is geting on and doesn't look like one who will get all taht old. Sad as it is for the people in the area, letting time take care of this is probably the only thing that will work.

[Octafish]

8. Richard (PNAC) Perle is a Director of Jerusalem Post

An excerpt from an "article" by JINSA PNAC Pearl Harbor Perle:

...The lesson is clear: The present Palestinian leadership, and even more the nature of the Palestinian dictatorship, is inconsistent with the hopes of those Israelis who believed that Oslo offered a reasonable prospect of peace."

http://info.jpost.com/C002/Supplements/Intifada/str_03.html

Great overview from IndyMedia:

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1583493_comment.php

JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs) loves Perle:

http://www.jinsa.org/about/adboard/adboard.html?documentid=754

[KoKo]

11. Kick! Should KILL be the new word for Depose, Expell, Bring to Justice?

That's what I'm asking here.

[KoKo]

12. Kick! Should KILL be the new word for Depose, Expell, Bring to Justice?

That's what I'm asking here.

[Kamika]

13. well jerusalem post..

jerusalem post is pretty much israels fox news.. If you want their equalent of cnn or so check out haaretzdaily.com

But one thing.. you gotta understand the israelis want to get rid of arafat asmuch as you gotta understand the palestinians want to get rid of sharon.

[KoKo]

14. Is Killing the correct way to deal with Leadership problems....What about

Exile.....when did we start to accept that "Killing" is the only way to do things. Bush thinks it is....and has told the world that it's acceptable to Kill first ask questions later. Isn't that what we are doing in Iraq? Is this the way to settle anything?

[sujan]

15. they can try

[CHIMO]

16. Blame it on Canada

Yes. Unfortunately the paper is owned by Black.

Conrard.

Didn't want to be a Canadian because we wouldn't let him become a Lord in England. Guess what?
His paper in Canada was so far to the right that he had to sell it to stay afloat.

A little backgroud, he was born into the elite in Ontario and proceeded to rule over Massey Furgerson, while it was driven into the ground.

Then went on to become a "Lord Thompson" but has to continue liquidating his resources to stay afloat.

He doesen't want to sell the Israeli paper because he wants a voice in the world.

[chookie]

17. Is Israel giving the finger to Bush?

My take on things is that part of the reason that Bush conquered Iraq was to remove a threat to Israel. (Whether or not Israel actually thought Saddam was a threat is not clear -- Israeli intelligence certainly did not).

Let's presume Sharon wanted smirky to do this for him. Bush would have gotten him to agree to the Roadmap. I believe Bush actually tried to influence Israel in this manner, despite his own religious wackiness and the outrage is caused among his fundamentalist supporters. However, smirky was way too confident that *he* could succeed where others had failed, and was WAY over his head in the quagmire that is Israel/Palestine, and he was counting on Sharon to at least put on a show as the election draws near.

Both smirky and Sharon HAVE to know that if Arafat is exiled, Palestine, and other places, will explode. Sharon *has* to know that smirky needed at least an appearance of progress in Israel/ Palestine for the election year -- but now he is choosing increasingly harsh actions against Palestine, which in turn incite further violence.

Has Sharon had it with the smirk? Even though one of the motives of the Iraq war was to draw terrorists from Israel/Palestine into Iraq (Hey, THANKS George for making our brothers amd sisters, sons and daughters, husbands and wives the targets of violence, to protect Israelis!! Uh George -- Sharon is sticking up for Israel -- how about *you* thinking about the interests of *your* country first for a change; well, for once even?) Does Sharon think George is not going to be an effective partner, and if so, for what reason/s?

Is Sharon going to be one of the first persons to officially say "tata" to George W? After all, he KNOWS he is going to continue to receive massive aid and support from whatever candidate is elected -- even if it is that rabid anti-Semite Howard Dean (/VERY BIG SARCASM off).

If Sharon gives the finger to George W -- then he is going to lose BIG TIME in 2004, because a portion of his most faithful supporters think more of Israel than they do of him....

[CHIMO]

18. US is the Banker

Maybe it is the opposite. That Israel was pulling the strings.

Who makes up the PNAC and where did they come from.

How is someone going to win the election in the US if they do not have a backing.