Yavin4
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Fri Sep-12-03 04:49 PM
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Davis Will Win This Recall |
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Davis may be a boring man with little or no personality.
Davis may be in bed with special interest groups that give money to his campaigns.
Davis may have botched the power outages and the Enron scandal.
Davis may not be liked by a lot of Californians.
But there's one thing that he does well, HE BEATS THE HELL OUT OF REPUBLICANS. In fact, that may be the only thing that he does well. The only other Democrat alive that campaigns better than Davis is Bill Clinton.
Mark my words, Davis will win this recall.
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Fri Sep-12-03 04:55 PM
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1. Bill is going to be joining him next week too to help him |
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Sat Sep-13-03 02:11 AM
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If there's anything that will galvanize the Republicans to go to the polls, it'd be Clinton stumping for Davis.
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Fri Sep-12-03 04:57 PM
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2. People are looking at the alternatives and have ... |
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the opportunity to metaphorically wake up from a 3-day drunk before taking the first sip and say, "Hold on, there!"
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Fri Sep-12-03 04:57 PM
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Interestingly enough I heard a guy call in on c-span journal a couple of weeks ago. He also said Davis would win. He said he worked for a large polling organization --he did not give name-- and that the "polls" we see on t.v. are not statistically accurate by any means. He said his org surveys many thousands and he said Davis would win. He told c-span moderator to watch and see.
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Fri Sep-12-03 06:08 PM
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LA Times has the recall at 50% yes, 47% no, with the gap closing daily. Heck, the trend is heading to a one point race that can go either way. I find that the talk on the street is the recall drive has lost momentum, and coupled with the fact that a lot of Arnie supporters will not bother to vote (if they are even registered in the first place), leads me to believe that Gray Davis may prevail. Wishful thinking? No, I think Davis can do it, and my vote will make the difference!
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Fri Sep-12-03 05:01 PM
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4. I sure pray Davis does win the recall... |
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Edited on Fri Sep-12-03 05:02 PM by liberalnurse
I am totally against the recall. Davis was duly elected by the people. That is sacred. The recall was a republican abomination to democracy. We can not enable the behavior.
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Fri Sep-12-03 05:35 PM
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6. I was asked to quote for my school newspaper about the recall |
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I said it was a mockery of California politics and an absolute insult to the voters. Its just fucking bogus. Davis will beat these repuke election stealers.
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Fri Sep-12-03 05:38 PM
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7. You are the pride of democracy! |
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Fri Sep-12-03 08:01 PM
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There is a recall provision in our state constitution. If any politician deserves to be recalled it's Bob Taft. Of course, I believe in democracy so I wouldn't support it.
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Fri Sep-12-03 05:35 PM
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5. Arnold's ads are idiotic |
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There are quite a few of us here who've been saying this from the beginning. (No big whup for my perspicacity, MANY others have known this is a very good possibility, although certainly not guaranteed.) The nazis can jump up and down about how much everyone hates him and how horrible he is, but it's no more true than their religious belief that everyone hates trial lawyers or that tax cuts stimulate the economy.
Arnold's principal ad is this: a fake "conversation" with "the people" in what looks like a classroom where he starts by saying that the state is spending 29 million dollars a day more than it's taking in. He then says that he'll bring in an auditing team to immediately get to the bottom of all that. One "real person" then "asks" him about the car tax, and he commandingly says he'll repeal it. End of commercial.
Hey, now THAT'S a Republican: we're operating at a loss, so I'm going to get rid of some of our revenue. Bold! New!
There was a great L.A. Times letter to the editor today: (I paraphrase) "...he promises free candy, more recess time and less homework."
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Fri Sep-12-03 06:13 PM
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10. Not only that he sounds like Henry Kissinger |
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when you are listening but not watching. It sends chills up my spine :scared:
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Fri Sep-12-03 07:10 PM
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11. Ya know, that raises an amusing point, Fresnette... |
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That would be a female inhabitant of your neck of the valley, wouldn't it?
In Gore Vidal's memoir "Palimpsest", he tells of meeting Kissinger's older brother at a party and talking with him for a while. Suddenly it dawned on Vidal that, although the man was Kissinger's OLDER brother, he spoke with no discernable accent. (Usually, the older the person is when immigrating, the stronger the trace.) He asked him about it, and was told "That's because Henry never listens to anyone".
Makes perfect sense to me.
Arnold's a tough-guy Reaganite: failures are weaklings and deserve no help. Money is everything; if you don't want to dedicate your very being to amassing it, you deserve failure. Men take a lot of heat for being brash, thuggish, inflexible blowhards; it's unfair to tar all as such, but he's a prime example.
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Sat Sep-13-03 04:03 AM
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23. steroid boy can't repeal the so-called car tax |
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it would take the legislature to overturn it. The triple tax was signed by Pete Wilson BTW, and it only goes N2 effect when county revenues fall below a certain number. Registration & license fees come to your county and city, the fees R not used by the state.
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Fri Sep-12-03 06:11 PM
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9. I don't live in California |
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but I hope you're right. The FReepers are all drooling at the possibility of putting CA in the "R* column and handing all those electoral votes to shrub in 2004. I don't think CA will go to shrub, even if a republican gets elected governor next month, but it would be nice to see the recall defeated.
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Fri Sep-12-03 07:11 PM
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12. Exactly how I see it, too. |
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Fri Sep-12-03 07:11 PM
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but I think you're right. If only he can avoid any major gaffes. The accent thing...he did NOT need that. I think it'll blow over though.
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Fri Sep-12-03 07:54 PM
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14. Either way the rethugs lose. |
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Edited on Fri Sep-12-03 07:56 PM by Mountainman
If the recall fails they lose. If the recall passes then Cruz Bustamante becomes Governor.
Like the song Mrs. Robinson. Either way they look at it they lose.
The rethugs are their own worse enemy. Arnold vs McClintock is the story. Neither one can get enough votes to defeat Bustamante.
There are too many people who will say, OK lets get rid of Davis but be damned sure you don't replace him with a republican.
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Fri Sep-12-03 08:15 PM
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16. You haven't seen NOTHING YET...the media blitz begins next week |
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there are LOTS of good things in the works....watch...that's all I can say.
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Sat Sep-13-03 01:12 AM
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I passionately dislike Arnold and frankly, Cruz has been a very uninspirining candidate.
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Sat Sep-13-03 01:35 AM
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18. Thats the sense I get too... |
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Furthermore, it seems to me as though Arnold behaves as if he KNOWS somehow that he is not going to be governor...can't put my finger on it though.
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Sat Sep-13-03 02:01 AM
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19. He could very well pull it off |
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One advantage is that the anti-Davis money is all going to individual candidates. There is almost no money being raised for any "Yes on Recall" ads, while Davis is raising a bundle for "NO" ads.
It sure doesn't say much for Bustemante as a candidate that he is polling so far behind the "NO" vote on recall.
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Sat Sep-13-03 02:17 AM
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21. AMEN!! I hope you're right. |
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I never disliked Arnold more than when he started attacking my Democratic governor (even if Davis is a special interests guy, he beats Repubs).
Did anyone see Luntz on Hardball a couple nights ago? He made a "prediction". He said that whatever the last polls say before the election, Arnold will come out 3-4% above that. Made me think BBV! UGGH!
As long as McClintock stays in, we're okay. Anyone really think he won't cave in to the pressure near the end, though?
Still worried. :scared:
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Sat Sep-13-03 02:49 AM
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22. I'm inclined to agree... |
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He seems like such a meek and mild man---even shy, but Davis has a spine of steel and a resolve of iron and Republicans just don't know what to make of him. Lol!
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