Global Warming comes to Hawaii

[opihimoimoi]

The fish pond next to me(3 acres) has a wall made of stone. I lived here for since 59.

On high tides, the water NEVER came over the walls. Now, since 5 or 6 months ago, high tides come over the walls. This last week was the worst.

Fuck Rash Limpballs and his GW is a myth. And when Fla is awash, its gonna be the PUBs fault.

Come, bring rocks

[punpirate]

1. Sadly, these idiots think that denying the truth...

... is the same thing as telling it.

Where I am, normal rainfall (which has been revised downward three times in the last twelve years) for this time of year is 9.7 inches. So far, we've had 2.17 inches. We were almost four inches down for the previous year.

Could be extended drought, but it could also be changing weather patterns due to changes in ocean currents from warming. Normally, we get the bulk of our rain from mid-May to mid-September, but for the last three years, rolling and overlapping _el ninos_ and _la ninas_ have shifted that rain pattern to October-December.

If we couldn't pump water and had to depend on rainfall, we'd all be raisins by now.

It ain't right, somehow.

[opihimoimoi]

7. yup, we in a 5 year drought too

the Water guys are telling evryone to slow down on the use.

The Pubs refuse to listen and now are making it worse by relaxing pollutiuon standards allowing corps to dump even more shit into the atmosphere. Its insane.

[Hubert Flottz]

2. RE: Come, bring rocks!

To splash the Bushite?

WV has had double the normal rainfall amount! The Fungi are among us for sure! I've got fungi on my dungi and water on the knees! Maybe Bush plans to turn all this water into wine so he can stay drunk 24/7!

I hope Gawd foresaw Bushco's plundering and hid a drainplug somewhere in Texas!

[opihimoimoi]

10. Aloja Hubert. Found Howdy and put out a message for you in the lounge

Seems, he chased the JWs all the way to Huntsville.

Come, bring rocks to repair the wall, not bash bush.

The Pubs can jump into the lava pit(it used to be called Hell in bibical times) for all I care.

[bandy]

3. We in Fla. have had

a very mild summer, which is strange to me. Temps have been below 92 all summer long which is not the norm for the So. East coast. Usually, temps reach 98 or 99 with index at 112 or above. Also, this cold water tide on the east coast reaching to the mid of coast line around Daytona. This is killing fish and doing damage to reefs. Swimmers complain its too cold. It is scary to say the least. Hopefully, the bright side will be a nice, long cold winter. Looking forward to that!
Hope your fish are not fresh water.

[opihimoimoi]

11. hot simmers are a magnet for hurricanes and shit.

Isabelle heading in your direction. get your ply wood.

[Eloriel]

13. Cool summer here in N. GA too

I've rather enjoyed it, since I'm not all that fond of hot, humid weather. But it has seemed strange. And then Sept. seemed to bring even cooler weather, after we had a few weeks of more summerlike weather in August.

Very strange.

Eloriel

[opihimoimoi]

18. Strange might just become the norm

The faster we get those Pubs outta there the better Earth has a chance to become the place it used to be: safe

[catzies]

4. That is very interesting. We need to keep doing this - gathering info

Everyone should share what they see about the weather and climate and the changes.

Here in southern California we have had the monsoon flow coming up from Mexico for 2 1/2 months straight. Humidity (in the desert!) and thunderstorms and lightning. I used to see lightning in So Cal once a decade!

The fall bird migration came early too. Hummingbirds I didn't use to see until October came in August.

[bandy]

5. lt was predicted here to be

a long hot, dry summer and we've had record rain and mild temps. Really makes you wonder.
Our son just moved to Palm Springs, CA and he said it was so much worse then Fla. He is not happy in the desert.

[Desertrose]

6. The N. AZ desert is GREEN!

We were dry but have had a great monsoon this year...lotsa rain & humidity...which we needed...but we've also had record flooding and even tornadoes ...TORNADOES???

Yes- tornadoes in AZ!!!!

(do you spell plural the plural of tornado with an "e"??)


There are mighty strange things happening in Yellowstone these days too...I'd say Mother earth is really becoming stressed to the max with all the insanity on her surface...not to mention drilling, testing etc.

Changes are definitely upon us!

Peace
DR

[opihimoimoi]

8. Its water where it supposed to be dry and drought for where it

supposed to be wet/

Indications like the ice shelf breaking up and the ice caps melting eem to mean nothing to those obstinate Pubs.

[Andy_Stephenson]

23. In your sig line you quote Chief "Seattle"

When in fact his name was "Sealth" Seattle is the white man way.

I am anal about it I know.

:hi:

[opihimoimoi]

9. yup, things re weather is amiss during the past 30 years... or more.

but its the past 2 years that the evidence is starting to pound on the front door.

[opihimoimoi]

12. strange weather in S CALI??? you too eh?

I would guess there is validity to the GW thingy and that Rash and Co should admit it and eat fucking crow.

[ConsAreLiars]

14. in Washington State

http://www.komotv.com/stories/27162.htm
"Statewide, Washington received just 1.09 inches of precipitation this summer. That compares to an average of 4.05 inches recorded between 1971-2000, Mote said. The next driest year was 1919, when 1.43 inches was recorded."

[opihimoimoi]

17. No wonder the forest fires in your region.

The Pubs refuse to consider we Humans are to blame, choosing instead, DENIAL, a classic approach of the far right.

[Generic Other]

24. Mount Rainier: much more rock showing than snow

Glaciers melting very fast. This is no joke. That's my water supply.
Trickling off to Hawaii...

[proud patriot]

15. Mother Jones article , CHECK THIS OUT

http://villagenews.weblogger.com/stories/storyReader$9096
All the Disappearing Islands
MotherJones.com / News / Feature

All the Disappearing Islands As the ice caps melt and oceans rise, will Tuvalu become a modern Atlantis?

Julia Whitty July/August 2003 From the air the tiny islets of Funafuti atoll appear as a broken pearl necklace scattered on the blue throat of the tropical sea. No other land is in sight, only an ocean without end and its own billowy breath rising as cumulus clouds that seem far more substantive than the tiny landforms below. As the twin-engine turboprop banks for final approach, the atoll assumes the classic dimensions of a desert island -- a sand outpost studded with coconut palms and surrounded by impossibly huge swells topped with wave crests longer than the island is wide. This leaves me to ponder, as Charles Darwin did, how "these low hollow coral islands bear no proportion to the vast ocean out of which they abruptly rise; and it seems wonderful that such weak invaders are not overwhelmed, by the all-powerful and never-tiring waves of that great sea."

Although Darwin eventually discovered the reef-building mechanisms of corals that keep atoll islands from succumbing to the waves, even his prescient mind never considered the dread possibilities of the 21st century: that global warming could cause the sea to expand and rise faster than the corals could fortify themselves against it, and that these fragile spits of sand might disappear beneath the waves that tossed them into being in the first place.

Today, roughly 1 million people live on coral islands worldwide, and many more millions live on low-lying real estate vulnerable to the rising waves. At risk are not just people, but unique human cultures, born and bred in watery isolation. Faced with inundation, some of these people are beginning to envision the wholesale abandonment of their nations. Others are buying higher land wherever they can. A few are preparing lawsuits that will challenge the right of the developed world to emit the greenhouse gases threatening to cause the flooding of their homelands. But whatever their actions or inactions, the citizens of tropical island nations are likely destined to become the world's first global-warming refugees -- although they contribute only 0.6 percent of greenhouse-gas pollution
(snip)

[opihimoimoi]

16. A sad commentary on the wholesale destruction of reefs due to Mans

tinkerings.

And we are a mature species??

A sustainable Earth has got to be made a priority, over all other considerations. If we should choose to reject this, we are fucking doomed.

[Procopius]

19. How do you know it's global warming?

I believe in global warming but are you sure it's causing the water over the wall?

[opihimoimoi]

20. The water coming over the wall means the sea level is RISING

Ice caps melting is a proven fact. Ross ice shelf breaking up is a proven fact.

Tempreture readings around the world is on the rise, its a fact.

[catzies]

21. Climate change is a fact. Wackiest weather everywhere all year is a fact.

Only to what extent has been from man's toxic contributions over time is up for argument. How can any reasonable person disagree over this? :shrug:

I've always thought the Right Wing Official Pary Line was to spew "global warming is a myth" over and over. But surely their eyes are open, and can believe what they see?

[opihimoimoi]

22. Rash Limpballs must have his blinders on

cause he one obstinate fella

Keeps claiming GW is a myth

[Dogmudgeon]

25. Hot to Cold

Read it and shiver:

Abrupt Climate Change Studies at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute:
http://www.whoi.edu/institutes/occi/currenttopics/ct_abruptclimate.htm

The Great Climate Flip-Flop by William Calvin
The Atlantic Monthly, January 1998
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/98jan/climate.htm

Opi, you may not have to wait too long for those high tides to return to the levels you remembered from your childhood. On the other hand, they may recede to the point where the Big Island becomes the Even Bigger Island.

At that time, NYC will be in the process of becoming the world's largest populated ice-skating rink.

It's likely that because of NeoCon arrogance and stupidity, that by 2050, we'll be half under a fast-growing ice sheet and half locked down against attack from two billion angry Muslims.

I like snow ... but not that much!

--bkl
Ice, Ice, Baby!

[opihimoimoi]

26. Before that cycle returns we have GW to contend with

Already many low lying islands, etc are threatened with a rising sea level.

Storms will become fiercer