I guess we'll just persist inacting like the Shiavo case is bad for us,,,,

[senseandsensibility]

Last night, the callers to c-span after the "debate" on the house floor were heavily weighed in our favor. Today an ABC news poll showed that seventy percent of Americans agree with US. But never mind, we've been bamboozled again, and some failed to stand up, so it's another loss.

I haven't posted one word about this case on DU until now. But I think that if we had any brains we could use this case to show how out of control this administration is. There's certainly no reason to feel hopeless.

[Teaser]

1. Loss?

My God, this isn't something we're trying to score points with.

[senseandsensibility]

3. No you're right

I think most of us fought the good fight, and I don't begrudge anyone on either side for fighting for what they truly believe. I do begrudge the repukes for initiating this solely for political purposes. They are definitely trying to score points. I don't think our side is. However, we are NOT the ones looking bad here. They are, because of THEIR actions. And I just feel that anything that shows the average red stater what these people are really about is good. It simply means that they may be able to achieve less evil later.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

7. I don't begrudge anyone on either side

for fighting for what they truly believe.

Well I for one seriously begrudge those on both sides who failed to fulfill their responsibility to stand up for and protect the Constitution.

[senseandsensibility]

8. I meant the parents

and some average people who truly believe that life should be maintained at all costs for religious or other reasons. I definitely was not talking about the repukes.

[mattclearing]

2. Yeah.

Edited to get my facts straight after watching the video:

Did anyone see Debbie Wasserman Schulz this morning? She was fantastic against Roy Blount.

Among some of the better gems: "The Republicans are ripping the hinges off of the doors into America's homes."

"I'm not a bioethicist, and neither is Congressman Blount."

And later, "I wasn't elected to Congress to make these kinds of decisions, I was elected to uphold the Constitution, and so was Congressman Blount, and all the rest of my colleagues, and we thumbed our nose at the Constitution last night, and we jammed ourselves in potentially every family healthcare dispute in America, and it's just wrong."

There's video here halfway down: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032633/?ta=y

[kaitykaity]

4. It's like watching a train wreck.

I don't want to look, but I can't help myself.
This is my 3rd or 5th post about this, something
like that. I've tried to stay away from it as well.

I hope you're right, that some overall good can come
from this mess. I have been hoping to hear my favorite
medical doctor weigh in on this issue but so far
haven't heard anything.

The Thugs don't do anything unless they stand to gain from
it. I can't quite figure out what they might gain with
this? A distraction from the war anniversary protests? It
was that. Red meat for their dumbass base? It is that too.

They haven't had to pay any price at all for everhthing
else they've done -- the war, all the crimes, yada yada --
so maybe they finally really feel they are above any
sort of consequences for anything.

[madeline_con]

5. poleaxed by polls

Here's what I got from the 'news' today.

The majority of those who voted in the polls believe Congress has no business interfering, BUT...
Get this.

The minority who voted in favor of the bill are 'passionate' about it, implying that their votes count more. As lame as that sounds, it was actually run a couple of times!

What are they :smoke:ing up in Washington?

[AP]

6. Yes, I think the republicans took their framing one step too far. I think

most Americans want to be in control of how they live and die, and they want to die with dignity and they don't like seeing fundamentalists and RW politicians making points of this poor woman's life.

Like I suggested in another post, this is really a metaphor very similar to what The Matrix argues. Here you have a woman who has no life. She's plugged in and existing for the benefit of others (the RW'ers) and for her, the red pill is to let go and enter heaven. The RW wants to keep her on the blue pill - life support and nothingness -- just a human battery to energize the right wing.

I think Americans sense that this is what's going on.

[Generator]

9. The "majority" didn't want the Taliban either

Welcome to rule by the few for the many.

That's just how cynical I am. I don't have much faith in anything until someone(George Soros?) buys CNN or buys some major media outlet. Until the masses have the facts and something that is actually news, we are going to continue to know that we are the majority but we are being hosed daily by those that don't represent us. And everyone else will just look at it as the entertainment story of the day.

Because that's all there is-entertainment tonight brought to you by CNN.

I don't find this story entertaining at all, I also don't find it news that every American must know.

Americans will continue to vote against their interests as long as propaganda is king.