Terri Schiavo: democrats: the party of death...

[cap]

that's what this is all about.
Labeling the Dems in time for '06. Framing the issue.

[Pithlet]

1. It won't work.

The more this drags on, the more I think it's going to bite them in the ass. Not that I want a poor woman's plight to be the catalyst for that. I'm not the typical blood thirsty liberal, after all :silly: But, if this does work against them, it's their own damn fault.

[LostInAnomie]

2. By '06 the public would be like...

... "Terri who?"

No one will remember her by the time Nov. '06 comes around. We are famous for our short memory.

[shraby]

20. We still remember Karen Quinlan

and the big fight her family had to remove the respirator. That fight was instrumental in people being allowed to remove the technology that keeps bodies alive after the person is technically dead..or almost so. God bless that family for fighting so hard for that right, even though their daughter continued to live for 10 years.

People won't forget Terri and the horror they face in their own decisions which at best are extremely difficult to make even with a living will. I think the Bushies have opened a can of worms they wish they hadn't.

[LostInAnomie]

23. Yeah, nobody remembers her either.

If you would ask 100 people on the street who Karen Quinlan is 98 wouldn't have any idea.

In the long run this is a small issue that a huge percentage of the country thinks shouldn't be as big as deal as it is. It will only motivate a very small proportion of people to vote because of it.

[jonnyblitz]

3. do you think it will work, their framing of the issue? nt

[Kelvin Mace]

6. Not working so far.

The issue is not setting well with Mr. and Mrs. America and all the ships at sea.

David Allen
www.blackboxvoting.com
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[jonnyblitz]

10. I need reassurance. I always expect the worst. nt

[Jack Rabbit]

4. 70% thing the GOP got this one wrong

So they're the party of theocracy.

Maybe they like to think they're the Party of God. How do you say that in Arabic? Ah, yes . . . Hezbollah.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Terry who?

You are dealing with ADD short memory muricans here

No it is to see how far they can push their crazy agenda... and to cow tow to the Extreme Right Wing

[aquart]

7. Yes, that's the plan.

Pity it's such a bad plan. Pity Americans are really ticked off at Tom DeLay appointing himself the decider of personal family matters.

[ultraist]

14. LOL! Yes, what a pity their little plan backfired on them. boo fucking hoo

[annabanana]

8. Republicans: Interfering in every personal, private decision.....

In your bedroom, In your hospital room, In your classroom
Poking themselves in everywhere they're not wanted..Nosing around in everybody's private business...

disgusting...

[nonconformist]

9. Let them try.

The vast majority of Americans, Dems and Repugs, see right through this.

Let them try to use it. It will be beneficial for us if they do.

[sandnsea]

11. Let's keep repeating that

And help them. Repeating right wing crap, in the interest of "knowing the enemy", has worked so well before. :eyes:

[Walt Starr]

12. Why are you promoting a rightwing postion?

You know that's what you're doing, right?

Democrats are the party of Personal Privacy.

[Mr_Spock]

13. I don't like when people use RW talking points for post titles

I will ignore this thread

[ultraist]

16. Things that make go hmmmm...

?

[bowens43]

15. Well , they lose.

The vast majority of Americans side with the husband and think that the involvement of congress and the idiot was nothing more then a political stunt at the expense of this poor woman.

[GreenPoet64]

17. We're for a "Culture of Private Living." n/t

[sonicx]

18. Too bad it's not working.

[UTUSN]

19. We're the Party of CHOICE, Not "Death" (what I put into the ALERT)

[Walt Starr]

21. So what, are you posting and running?

:wtf:

[seabeyond]

22. so cap, start unframing it................dont feed the machine

become a part of it

[cap]

25. just wanted to start figuring out what was going on...

why all the hoopla ...

it makes no rational sense and the leading players gw and frist have contradicted themselves on this a number of times.

Frist owns HCA which owns a lot of hospitals. He stands to lose a lot of money or does he? As long as the government keeps handing out the dough, he can warehouse bodies... (sorry about being ghoulish).


but I think it is to rev up the base and sway the undecided.

[seabeyond]

27. thanks for explaining

i agree the possiblity is there but what i keep going to so many people across the nation has experienced this. they have had to make this decision. they cant be easily convinced the decision they made with their loved ones was cruel and murder

my only thiught is how they frame their lies and always always get away with it. and maybe this time they arent getting away with it because it is so much a part of so many lives

[mmonk]

24. Anyone who wants to see the party of death

just look at Iraq.

[brettdale]

26. The 1999 Texas law

By William Douglas / Knight Ridder

WASHINGTON - The federal law that President Bush signed early Monday in an effort to prolong Terri Schiavo's life appears to contradict a right-to-die law that he signed as Texas governor, prompting cries of hypocrisy from congressional Democrats and some bioethicists.

In 1999, then-Gov. Bush signed the Advance Directives Act, which lets a patient's surrogate make life-ending decisions on his or her behalf. The measure also allows Texas hospitals to disconnect patients from life-sustaining systems if a physician, in consultation with a hospital bioethics committee, concludes that the patient's condition is hopeless.

Bioethicists familiar with the Texas law said Monday that if the Schiavo case had occurred in Texas, her husband would be the legal decision-maker and, because he and her doctors agreed that she had no hope of recovery, her feeding tube would be disconnected.

"The Texas law signed in 1999 allowed next of kin to decide what the patient wanted, if competent," said John Robertson, a University of Texas bioethicist.

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[DearAbby]

28. I dont know why you think that the American People will not remember this

This issue cuts real personal, there are a lot of people out there that have had to make this very choice, and I tell you, I dont like be called a murderer.

They will remember this, we just have to make it appear that it is a privacy issue, not play tacky on a memory of this poor woman. They will remember this as people of my generation remembers watergate.

[Moderator]

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[cap]

29. i wonder if Frist can be labeled Dr Death as a response...

surely, he has participated in determining that a patient should not be resuscitated at some point in his career. I wonder if someone will come forward...

[gollygee]

31. Democrats: The Party of Privacy

Republicans: The Party of Government Intrusion