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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 08:03 AM
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Conservatives finally waking up
I don't read many Conservatives but if Charlie Reese has his way
Bush is gone!

"I strongly believe George Bush's administration should be ousted in
2004 for domestic blundering, let alone foreign blundering. It wouldn't hurt to also clean out the House and the Senate."

http://reese.king-online.com/Reese_20030915/index.php
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 08:17 AM
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1. Is this for real?
Conservatives would vote for someone else? What about their tax cut?
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 08:22 AM
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2. Intelligent and REAL conservatives aren't exactly enamored of him
There was an article in the Washington Spectator a couple of weeks ago, written by a reporter who is also a lifelong conservative, detailing his outrages over the corruption and ineptitude of the Bush administration on a number of fronts.

Many thinking conservatives who put principle before party loyalty are very, very upset with the Bush Administration's betrayal of basic conservative values. There is a natural tendency here on DU to deny that this group exists, and instead portray all conservatives as mindless dittoheads, which is not an accurate portrayal.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 08:32 AM
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3. I agree, my liberal parents are friends with
people from all political stripes, and our conservative friends foam at the mouth at the mention of *. Not only do they hate what he's doing and what he stands for, they hate the damage he's doing to the GOP and conservatives in general. Even those who enthusiastically supported him once are very angry and upset now.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 08:53 AM
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4. Issues of real conservatives that Bush has failed on (big time)
balancing the budget
protecting constitutional civil rights
military non-interventionism (is that a word?)
separation of church and state
local control of American public schools (vs. punative "testing" standards")

A centrist like Dean or a conservative Democrat like Lieberman would appeal to those voters. The conservative agenda was actually advanced on several fronts while America had centrist Clinton in the presidency (NAFTA, crime, balancing the budget, bigger defense budget, etc.). They would be inclined to let a Democrat be president to get rid of the miserable failure *bush.

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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:11 AM
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5. Clark, also, can bring in some of these votes.
His intelligence, integrity and service to country would have appeal for them.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:16 AM
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7. I am just posting examples. I don't have time to review all candidates..
...or would-be candidates :)

I sure as heck do not want to turn this into another candidate thread. We already have a thousand of those.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:19 AM
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8. True, but I haven't a shred of sympathy for them
They put a man into the highest office in the land who had a terrible business record despite massive infusions of cash from rich relatives AND who had a TERRIBLE governor's record. They didn't question it. They didn't fight against it. They went along in lockstep and the only reason they are not in lock-step now is because it has simply gotten so bad, that they can't hide the incompetence any more. These people put this monster in power when a little homework would have told them volumes about this creature.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:15 AM
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6. Anyone with any brains has to realize that this was not THEIR tax cut.
It was the crony capitalist's tax cut.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:24 AM
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9. ya gotta see bush*s jacksonville, fl tuesday fund raiser speech
Edited on Mon Sep-15-03 09:26 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
barely any applause from the donators...and bush was visably scared and shaken that they knew that his gig is up!...c-span might have a video on their programming site...from last tuesday...watch it....
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:18 AM
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11. can you help find a link to that?
I was looking around on Cspans website but I can't find the
video for that speech. You make it sound interesting.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:43 AM
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10. I'll Give Reese One Thing!
If he's a conservative, he's one of the few who's figured out that the GDP is not the economy. It's one of many metrics of the economy, but the economy is made of PEOPLE! Most conservatives seem oblivious to that fact. That's why their policies are so simpleminded and two dimensional.

Reese doesn't seem to have a problem with understanding that, so good for him.
The Professor
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