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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 02:05 PM Original message |
About the latest immigration threads here |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. BRAVO, MAESTRO!!! |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. I knew I could count on you. |
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4morewars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. I couldn't agree with you more Maestro. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Thanks |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks for an eloquent first hand view of the situation. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Wow thanks. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. I Love The "It Isn't Illegal!" Arguments The Best |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. No kidding. |
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republicansareevil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. But I don't see the problems you're seeing. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I don't think we disagree |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. How horrible. Too bad this is all a big secret.... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Lot of these posts we can't confirm in the last few days. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
54. I checked it out...and then I checked out the CIS itself. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. You provided a bogus website. The burden of proof is on you. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. But hell, just for kicks here is one article from the SPL Center |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Absolutely terrific sites! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Here's a link to the Cato Institute |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. DId you see the link to the Cato Institute, a Conservative think tank? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Show me. It says exactly the opposite and sites another anti-immigrant |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. And the sites say, they got their research from the CATO Institute |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #82 |
154. Uh, a conservative web site touting the benefits |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:49 PM Response to Reply #154 |
172. Legal immigration is not cheap labor. |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #172 |
189. HB1's are cheaper labor |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #189 |
194. People are complaining of their jobs being taken by people willing to work |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:49 AM Response to Reply #194 |
212. here you are. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:50 AM Response to Reply #212 |
217. The first link is broken. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
94. Why do you post things like |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Thanks for jumping in. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:15 PM Response to Reply #74 |
99. Where were you all last night? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. LOL! It's from a group that sprung off FAIR-a known anti-immigrant site! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. They have research from-surprise-another anti-immigrant group! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #60 |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Let's see |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:25 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Right on the National Review Home Page "The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy" |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:46 PM Response to Reply #101 |
113. I knew that |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. And they all wrote anti-immigration articles. What a surprise. |
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Medium Baby Jesus (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #95 |
121. You said "you people" |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
137. Thank you. I'm so sick of people using anti-immigration to hide |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
90. how can it not be great? |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Thanks |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. You're more than welcome. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
56. And then we'll ask Sean Hannity if he thinks Liberals cause most crimes |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I am sure some get involved in crimes |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Oh, stuff a sock in it |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. If NSMA was here, she has all the facts you need. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
64. See post #62 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Not nasty |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:06 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. And you told someone else to put a sock in it too. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #93 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:42 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. I didn't abuse you. In fact I never said anything negative to you. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #89 |
103. Look, you are fanning the flames |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:42 PM Response to Reply #103 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Can they form their gangs if they come here legally? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #110 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. I'm not the one arguing all the anti-immigration talking points! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:03 PM Response to Reply #118 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:06 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. For a good chunk of non-mexican immigrants, that would be a step down in |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #124 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. LOL! I LOVE the idea! I never said I didn't! |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #122 |
141. Again, Mexicans have no special rights |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #115 |
140. They do come |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:50 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Actually, one of those white gangs is patrolling the border right now. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #114 |
144. Don't forget that the people |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. I know. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:46 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. Pathetic |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #144 |
158. bogus unless you look at %'s of population figures |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #158 |
162. Prove it. -nt |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #158 |
171. And why is that? Is it because Hispanics and Black Americans earn 70 cent |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #158 |
177. And that means what? |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:35 AM Response to Reply #177 |
215. from government census records |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:56 AM Response to Reply #215 |
221. Where's the link? |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:45 AM Response to Reply #221 |
231. try google |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #109 |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
147. It's not (just) what you've said, but it's the way you've said it |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:42 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. Thanks Tansy_Gold |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
111. Everytime someone doesn't agree with you, you say that |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #111 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:00 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Hey, I remember this one time a white guy commited a crime... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #120 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. You said illegals were "nasty" because one illegal peed in front of your |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. And Cleita had a great point, how do you know he was illegal? |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:19 AM Response to Reply #125 |
207. We don't have to spin it lisabtrucking |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #119 |
128. Is that what your charming little graphic is all about? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #128 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Made your feeling on illegal immigration even stronger? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. And that we regularly pull our pants down |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #134 |
146. I am white as white can be. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. If you are not white, you can still be racist. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #119 |
145. So now we get at the root of the cause |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:22 PM Response to Reply #119 |
187. Yet you have graphic |
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Medium Baby Jesus (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:03 PM Response to Reply #81 |
123. Fuck! You said it again. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Thanks. I couldn't muster the strength to do so. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
96. Congratulations to her |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:42 PM Response to Reply #96 |
107. Conversationally she is very fluent in English |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Geesh, another side to the story? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Legally is the best way to do everything and everybody |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. wouldn't be the first time I got called a freeper, here. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. The web site DOES attack illegals and it is completely anti-immigrant. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
151. Listen I have had it with you |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
67. Your facts are wrong |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
148. oops, you made my point again! |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #148 |
153. You're funny |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #153 |
161. When you get caught |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #161 |
165. I fail to see how a link |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #165 |
192. Since I cut and pasted |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:52 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. Did you stop reading at that sentence? |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:45 PM Response to Reply #148 |
170. You know perfectly well you are ignoring a big fact. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #170 |
178. Is that it? |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:08 PM Response to Reply #178 |
181. Apparently the "states suffer" argument is a common one. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Yet again |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:07 PM Response to Reply #170 |
180. hmmmm |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. Ok, here's your citation. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #182 |
188. Here is another great site: |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:05 AM Response to Reply #182 |
200. No, your link does not prove up your statement |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:07 AM Response to Reply #200 |
201. The issue of "states losses" is debatable. No article has difinitively |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:14 AM Response to Reply #201 |
204. Also, you haven't provided a single article that backs up your assertions |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #201 |
213. The borders are open to legals |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:52 AM Response to Reply #213 |
219. The process is impossible for Mexicans. |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:43 AM Response to Reply #219 |
229. why is it impossible? |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #148 |
179. Your facts are wrong---49/50 states benefit...California is in question. |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:14 PM Response to Reply #179 |
184. I'll read your link |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Nobody is arguing that illegal immigration is right. |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:45 PM Response to Reply #186 |
193. No problem |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:49 PM Response to Reply #193 |
195. You didn't answer the question. |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:38 AM Response to Reply #195 |
211. Is it fair for those who wait |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:55 AM Response to Reply #211 |
220. Oh here we go with the terrorists (the 9/11 terrorists were here LEGALLY) |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #220 |
228. overstayed visas aren't legal |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
65. We not arguing the fact that illegal immigration is good or bad |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
11. Beautifully said. The immigrants aren't the enemy. |
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Power Trowell (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. The "Americans won't do this work " argument is full of crap IIMO |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Why don't you take a poll? |
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Power Trowell (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Fine you don't fit it - the person who started the thread is a teacher |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Boy, that was a quick save! |
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Power Trowell (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Thanks for noticing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
112. Deleted message |
countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Former member of ILGWU & IAM here. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. While I sympathize with your situation |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Just a personal example of how employers try to keep us divided |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #84 |
117. I understand now |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
175. A living wage, safe working conditions, benefits, & job security. |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
166. excellent |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
69. You're |
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Medium Baby Jesus (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
126. Probably a limousine liberal also. n/t |
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republicansareevil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. I said on another thread that the US work force is like a big labor union. |
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Power Trowell (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. That argument can only make sense |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
92. Only if the labor union refuses to let in a hell of a lot of workers. |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
108. Excuse me? |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:15 PM Response to Reply #108 |
142. Thank you. |
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seventythree (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
164. absolutely! |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
13. Beautiful post, Maestro! |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. Great post. thanks! |
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ashmanonar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
205. interestingly enough... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. Al fin. Mil gracias. n/t |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. No hay problema |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
17. I wish I could rid my vocabulary of the term "illegal alien"! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I think we need to coin our own terms, not use their's on so |
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republicansareevil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. "illegal labor" or "unregulated labor" |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. I like "worker exploitation" then it can cover a lot more |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Couldn't agree more. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
25. Maestro -- let's say it musically, as well |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
52. nominated.... n/t |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
73. Wow! I don't know why |
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ashmanonar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
206. heh...rage's Ghost of Tom Joad is good too. |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
26. Illegal immigrants pay $7 BILLION into Social Security yearly |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Ssshhh. You don't want anyone to think "illegal immigrants" help us. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. lol. No! Keep 'em liquored up. They're less destructive that way :) |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
75. or the Minutemen. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
33. I put this idea out before, and will try to say it again. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
155. No problem |
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kslib (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
34. Beautiful post. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
143. Then it has all been... |
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WilmywoodNCparalegal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. Ok... I need to respond |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Some fair solution that works must be found |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
102. Okay I am trying to keep up with this thread |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #102 |
159. learning a second language |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #159 |
168. Los tools |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:52 PM Response to Reply #168 |
197. Herramientas |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
51. Deleted message |
datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
91. the picture at the bottom |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
116. You COMPLETELY Misread/Misunderstood My Post |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
157. Good Lord! |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:29 PM Response to Reply #157 |
167. But It's Clear *I'm* Not Advocating "It", Right? Just Checking. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. No I didn't think that you were |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #169 |
173. No, You Didn't. But I've Now Been Reported to ATA Forum. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. What? |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
53. The question is, who wins? |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
160. I agree totally |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
55. Thank You! |
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ForrestGump (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
58. Complex issue |
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Turn CO Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
66. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU |
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chimpy the poopthrower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
68. slavery |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
71. THANK YOU!! |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
97. Beautifully eloquent |
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solinvictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
105. That's really sad.. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
130. Wow Maestro |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #130 |
163. Exactly, whether you like it or not |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
138. I'm a Miami native who lives in one of those areas where they don't speak |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 09:55 PM Response to Reply #138 |
156. Thanks. |
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Undercover Owl (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
176. Look, people! this is a "moderate" issue. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #176 |
185. I've only called one person |
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Undercover Owl (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #185 |
191. no, I know you didn't! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #176 |
190. Tell me, as a Border State resident, what irritates you? |
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Undercover Owl (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #190 |
198. here's what I said earlier: |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-05-05 11:59 PM Response to Reply #198 |
199. So are you arguing that more immigrants leads to more pollution? |
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Undercover Owl (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:10 AM Response to Reply #199 |
202. YES! ....and.... NO! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:12 AM Response to Reply #202 |
203. Ok, pollution needs to be curbed. But what does this have to do with |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:30 AM Response to Reply #203 |
209. Deleted message |
SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:44 AM Response to Reply #209 |
216. Uh...what? Birth control? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:51 AM Response to Reply #216 |
218. Deleted message |
SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:00 AM Response to Reply #218 |
222. Are you serious? Are you selling me the tired "they have huge families" |
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Undercover Owl (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:03 AM Response to Reply #222 |
223. Yes, I am. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:04 AM Response to Reply #223 |
224. That is a false statement. The only sites that have defended it are |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #224 |
226. Deleted message |
SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:33 AM Response to Reply #226 |
227. Right, because Hispanics are the only people who litter. |
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Undercover Owl (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:44 AM Response to Reply #227 |
230. Whatever. I didn't say that. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 05:29 AM Response to Reply #223 |
236. Sorry UO |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
208. Beautiful post Maestro! |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 05:25 AM Response to Reply #208 |
234. Thank you. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
210. immigrants? Folks here don't have a problem with immigrants. Its *illegal* |
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gardenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
214. Thank you so much! You express so well the words that would not come |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 05:27 AM Response to Reply #214 |
235. Your support is appreciated. |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
225. We have lost control of our borders |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 05:23 AM Response to Reply #225 |
233. And this is direct result of legal immigration? |
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Pushed To The Left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
232. Cheap labor conservatives |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 05:42 AM Response to Reply #232 |
237. I agree |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-05 06:51 AM Response to Reply #237 |
238. "These are people desperately looking for a better life" |
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