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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:19 PM
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Anybody Just See John King on CNN?
His report just ripped Bush-Cheney and Co. a new one!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:20 PM
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1. details?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:20 PM
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2. No Kidding?!
How? Details???
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:27 PM
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3. His Report
Now....let me remember....those that saw it, help me out......

He really made Cheney look like a fool showing him on MTP and quoting him as saying that Iraq was the "geographic base for the 9-11 terrorists." Quick switch to the truth - AFGHANISTAN was the geographic base. Also knocked down another Cheney attempt at tying Iraq to 9-11.

Showed Bush saying that "Let everybody understand that no terrorists will be buying WMD from Saddam Hussein." John King quickly pointed out that no WMD have been found in Iraq.

Showed clips of pre-war propaganda by Wolfowitz and Cheney saying, "We'll be greeted as liberators" and I can't remember what Wolfowitz said, but it was just as ridiculous. King, again pointed out that none of that has come to pass.

Finally he summed it up by asking if the post-war spin should be looked at with skepticism since the pre-war spin was so obviously false.

It was pretty strong! I was surprised.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:30 PM
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4. Thanks for the recap - I missed it
I love it :evilgrin:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:31 PM
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5. Krugman blasted Cheney from his "budget talk" when on MTP....
Cheney said they see the budget being cut in half...blah..blah blah.

Krugman saif that's non-sense. Because...what would cut the budget in half the administration is vocally against....he said it makes no sense how they can make such a statement.

What else is new....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:32 PM
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6. I knew I like that John King!
Edited on Mon Sep-15-03 09:33 PM by zidzi
Thanks, Jason Berry!

Remember that e-mail that was leaked from John King to Larry King on admonishing him for taking part in the bush inaugural?

Saying something to the effect that they wouldn't be viewed as real news People...but not those words exactly.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:40 PM
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18. Zid...boy do we think alike.
I do not really "know" John King, but my visceral response to him was WOW! I like this guy...kinda like David Gregory (another great reporter).

John King...oh yeah, he's a keeper.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:35 PM
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8. Wow, that is stunning
I wouldn't have expected this from him
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:09 PM
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13. Too bd he's about a year too late with his newfound
commitment to the truth. All that was pretty well known last year this time. The damned press wouldn't cover it.

Eloriel
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:23 AM
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22. No Crawford Cookout for John King...no sir. Let him stew in the gym.
The Bushies are going to try to pull their "punishment" routine on these journalists who dare to reveal the truth. Now...I guess we'll just have to sit back and see which ones are going to bow to the pressure.

JB
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:33 PM
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7. Newsnight with Aaron Brown
is replayed again at 1:00 a.m. EST if anyone is interested.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:50 PM
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10. thanks--maybe we should send John King email?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:47 PM
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9. He hammered them pretty good. I too was impressed n/t
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:54 PM
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11. Might this be caused by the resignation of CNN's head of US operations?
It happened earlier today.

http://money.cnn.com/2003/09/15/news/companies/cnn.reut/

-snip-

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Teya Ryan has resigned as U.S. chief of the CNN news operation, AOL Time Warner Inc. said Monday, and will be replaced by Princell Hair, a television news executive at Viacom Inc.

CNN News Group President Jim Walton also announced several organization changes, saying "a fundamental component of our operating structure is built for yesterday, not tomorrow."

more...

-snip-
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 09:59 PM
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12. hmmm check this out too
Maybe they're going to let the dogs out?

Amanpour: CNN practiced self-censorship
CNN's top war correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, says that the press muzzled itself during the Iraq war. And, she says CNN "was intimidated" by the Bush administration and Fox News, which "put a climate of fear and self-censorship."
As criticism of the war and its aftermath intensifies, Amanpour joins a chorus of journalists and pundits who charge that the media largely toed the Bush administrationline in covering the war and, by doing so, failed to aggressively question the motives behind the invasion.

On last week's Topic A With Tina Brown on CNBC, Brown, the former Talk magazine editor, asked comedian Al Franken, former Pentagon spokeswoman Torie Clarke and Amanpour if "we in the media, as much as in the administration, drank the Kool-Aid when it came to the war."

Said Amanpour: "I think the press was muzzled, and I think the press self-muzzled. I'm sorry to say, but certainly television and, perhaps, to a certain extent, my station was intimidated by the administration and its foot soldiers at Fox News. And it did, in fact, put a climate of fear and self-censorship, in my view, in terms of the kind of broadcast work we did."

more:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/mediamix/2003-09-14-media-mix_x.htm
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Boom_cha Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:18 PM
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14. Could it be that CNN senses the time is ripe
to become the anti-Faux, what with Jr.'s approval ratings tanking and all
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:25 PM
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15. I wish that were the case
But look at this excerpt from the miami herald story:

Walton said he is restructuring CNN internally so producers of individual programs will work directly with correspondents on stories. Previously, the producers had little opportunity to craft the reports for their shows.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/6777676.htm


It sounds to me like they want to censor or influence the live reports from correspondents in the field. Hope I'm wrong and you're right!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:36 PM
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17. I agree...
....that sounds like producers want to censor. Of course in the case of Paula Zahn, that might be an improvement!
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:26 PM
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16. There was a guy on Imus..........
from one of the news magazines (sorry don't remember who) saying the same thing. Said it was just stunning how Cheney was trying to spin all this. This guy was actually laughing at Cheney. He said not only does he not apologize for ANY of this fiasco, he thought they shouldn't even be questioned about any of it. Imus didn't say much but he wasn't disagreeing with him either. They are in TROUBLE!!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:41 PM
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19. Was is David Gregory? Because he seems like the only one who would say th
I don't like Imus, but once in awhile I tune in and I know that he has David Gregory on from time to time.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 10:57 PM
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20. No, it was some guy from Time magazine...
David something...I never heard of him before but he was really pretty good.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:11 AM
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21. Transcript
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0309/15/asb.00.html

KING (voice-over): The president is unequivocal.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: One thing is for certain, no terrorist organization will ever get a weapon of mass destruction from Mr. Saddam Hussein.

KING: But his critics note no such weapons have been found in Iraq, evidence to them the administration is stretching the truth or making definitive statements about issues that are anything but.

JOSEPH CIRINCIONE, CARNEGIE ENDOWMENT FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE: The White House sold this war on the cheap. It was going to be a cake walk, low casualties, low cost. We'd be greeted as liberators. We'd be in and out in a matter of months. None of it has turned out to be true.

KING: Consider Vice President Cheney's Sunday appearance on "Meet the Press." He described Iraq as a key geographic base for the September 11 hijackers and said documents recovered in Iraq detail ties with al Qaeda but he offered no details and other administration officials and members of Congress familiar with intelligence matters say they know of no proof the 9/11 hijackers operated out of Iraq.

CIRINCIONE: It was Afghanistan that was the geographic base for the terrorist attacks on September 11, not Iraq.

KING: The vice president also said Sunday the administration did not underestimate post-war cost in Iraq or underestimate the resistance U.S. troops would face but consider these statements back in March from Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz.

PAUL WOLFOWITZ, DEPUTY DEFENSE SECRETARY: There's a lot of money to pay for this. It doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money.

KING: And from Vice President Cheney.

DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KING: The president's critics see a pattern of exaggerations and distortions, first in making the case for war, now in defending the administration's post-war policy. But here at the White House, the vice president and others say they stand by their assessments including the belief, they say, that weapons of mass destruction eventually will be found -- Aaron.

BROWN: On the question of cost, the administration has often said it would go the Hill and say well we can't put a number on it. Was there ever a point where anyone either in the budget office or the White House did, in fact, put a best guess number on it and how does that compare to the reality?

KING: Well, remember when they made the first request back before the war it was sixty-something billion dollars. That funding included a plan to bring most of the U.S. troops home. That money, of course, now will be spent on the ongoing military operation, the ongoing reconstruction. Most of those troops will stay for some time.

more

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:13 AM
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23. Kick for hope
:kick:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 04:24 AM
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24. The press are sharks
the only bias they have is for blood.
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