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BushHasGotToGo Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:06 AM
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Holy Fuck. What if Bush gets ideas?
With what happened in California today, Bush may realize now that he may cancel the 2004 election with some Estrada and Thomas types!!!

SHIT!!!!!!!!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:12 AM
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1. Which is why the "Estrada and Thomas types" are being turned away
by the Daschles and Leahys. :)
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BushHasGotToGo Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:16 AM
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2. But there are still a bunch of them on the bench
Thomas is there. The rest of the dirty 5 are still there.

Daschle and Leahy may be too little, too late.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:26 AM
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3. you're just figuring that out?
I've been saying for months Bush is gonna figure out a way to cancel the elections in '04. Especially if his numbers are that far down.

Look for a terrorist attack near you!

STAY IN YOUR HOMES. DUCT TAPE YOUR WINDOWS. DON'T WORRY WE'LL RESCHEDULE THE ELECTIONS FOR SOME FUTURE DATE.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:37 AM
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4. In the immortal words of the greatest pResident, never elected,
"Bring it On!"

I can't think of a better way to create a political blacklash the likes these Republicans have never seen.

It will confirm what I think many of us suspect...that there is a level of criminality and malfeasence in this administration that requires a takeover of government in order for them to keep their collective heads.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:57 AM
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5. * isn't allowed to have ideas. But the PNAC Posse sure does...
And he's their pitiful mouthpiece.

If the Supremes pull more shit, we should take to the streets.
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BushHasGotToGo Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 03:33 AM
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6. Democrats will definitely take to the streets
LA was nothing compared to what will happen if Bush fucks with America again.
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iangb Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 06:47 AM
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7. If I had $50 to spare.....
I'd bet it on the people being complacent enough to let it pass.

When it happens it'll be sold as 'necessary to avoid disruption of our War on Terror, and to protect our freedoms'.....and most will buy it.
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 06:55 AM
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8. Wrong, wrong, wrong
I'd bet it on the people being complacent enough to let it pass.

There is no way * could get away with cancelling the '04' election, if the "war on terror" is status quo.
It will take a major attack before Americans will fall for this shit, and even then, I don't think people would just lay down and let that happen.

It's one thing to perform an illusion and steal the WH, it's quite different to announce the cancellation of a general election. Especially when so many people are charged up to expell *.

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iangb Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 07:04 AM
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9. I'd love to agree, but.....
....given what they've gotten away with so far I'm not able to.

These blokes have killed thousands........where's the outrage on the streets?

They've shredded the Constitution, robbed the treasury, stuffed the US's international relations etc, etc.......and you reckon a teensy thing like an election will spark revolution?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 11:33 AM
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10. 9/11 took everyone by surprise and our natural inclination was
to rally together as a society. I think what has been learned since has many people wondering what really happened and the lack of a true public investigation only underscores this concern. We know now what the PNAC plan was for America....a plan that was not debated and agreed to by our Representitives, but by a small group of radical reactionaries.

Another "event" will not be accepted with the same innocence that 9/11 elicited. Many anticpate it, many question why we haven't made our borders more secure, many question why this administration fights an unjust war in Iraq while the real terrorists go unscathed, many question why this administration has declared economic war against the middle-class of this country.

No, I think another 9/11 type event will only confirm many suspicions that such an attack will only benefit this administrations grip on the levers of power because their personal security may well be the motivation.

Let's face the central fact here....why on Earth would "Al-Qaeda" help this adminsistration by conducting another "event" when the outcome will provide this maladministration with justification to escalate the war in the ME and possiblity try to use this as an excuse to declare martial war. Given the relative peace of the 90s and the efforts of Democrats to bring peace to the ME (sabotauged, in large part by the PNAC crowd now in power)...why would they wish to continue and aid this administration by playing into their hands?

The only 2 groups, IMHO, who have benefited from the "War on Terror" are the Bush administration and the "Al-Qaeda" recruiters.....am I wrong here?






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iangb Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 06:00 PM
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15. Think of it as 'interdependence'.
Edited on Tue Sep-16-03 06:01 PM by iangb
The Bush Admin needs Al Qaeda and their ilk as a standing 'threat' to achieve their goals.

(PNAC's 2000 security paper pointed out the need for a 'credible threat' to justify increased military spending and a more aggressive US stance).

Al Qaeda and their ilk need the Bush Admin so that they too have an enemy and can appear relevant.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:14 PM
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11. going with you...
I have to go with you on this one. People are so callow that they will buy anything they are sold. Almost 70% believe the Saddam lie. What makes anyone think that there would be a ruckus if the cattle of the US were told that it were necessary. They would just attach their little flags to their cars and accept it.

The average American's ability to be cowed in to anything they are told enrages me to no end. The "If Bush said it, I believe it" set scare and sadden me.

Livestock are what most of them are. They allow themselves to be lead to the slaughter and believe that they are being patriotic for doing so. Most of them believe that no matter how bad things are now, they will receive their reward in the afterlife. It is a slave mentality. I in no way ever count on the average Joe to stand up and do the right thing, that requires brains and courage. Thinking makes their brains hurt and courage requires sacrifice.

I guess my point it that if things go any more south for the jerks in charge right now, I would not put it past them to try to cancel the election. If for no other reason, they probably feel that they will have no problem getting away with it.
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:56 PM
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13. are you speaking of the 1992 Los Angeles riots?
If so, then I think you're on the right track. Think LA in every major US city. Note that I am not advocating such an action, merely that I think it will happen.
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Zolok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 12:37 PM
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12. If there is another terrorist attack on the continental U.S
on Bush's watch,then he'll be lucky to flee the White House ahead of the enraged torch wielding mob.
The shreds of his Iraq policy is built on the occupation making us safer, if that is invalidated by a terrorist attack heaven help Bush and his cabal.
It won't be pretty I promise you...A President of the U.S. forced to flee the capital and go into "protective custody"...whilst the rump of the cabinet try to salvage the situation from an undisclosed location.
:)
Lets hope this doesn't happen I have no love of Mob Rule...

www.chimesatmidnight.blogpspot.com
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Quahog Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:15 PM
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14. Well, they wouldn't have to cancel the elections
If they coordinate with al-Qaeda to make sure the terrorist attacks are widespread and happen ON election day, the election will cancel itself.

God, I am getting so cyncial....
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