Royal wedding a 'shambles'

[emad]

By Richard Edwards Crime Reporter, Evening Standard
8 April 2005

Staff at Windsor Castle have spoken of their frustration over "shambolic" preparations for Prince Charles's wedding.

Uncertainty over dates, location and guest numbers has driven those responsible for catering and administration close to "mutiny" and walking out.

With only 24 hours to go they have still not been issued with a finalised guest list.

As recently as Monday many at Windsor were convinced that the wedding was going to be relocated to Balmoral to avoid further intrusive coverage.

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/17791511?source=Evening%20Standard&ct=5

ALL it needs is for QE2 to drop dead tomorrow morning.....

[CatWoman]

1. not to gloat, but

ok, ok, I'm gloating.

[The Icon Painter]

61. Curious

Why are you gloating? Does it trouble you that the poor ol' Prince who has been bossed around all his life by his mother, Mountbatten, his father and his air-headed first wife is finally going to have a taste of happiness at last? I wish him well; he and Camilla are both adults who can discuss something besides pop culture and clothes. He seems intelligent and she compatible. I sincerely hope they will find comfort and companionship in one another.

[flamingyouth]

2. Gee, I never could have seen this coming

:eyes:

[Inland]

3. "Shambolic". What's the UK version of Vegas?

What's the UK version of a Las Vegas? Isle of Man? Jersey?

I'm still wondering how this marriage occurs without Parliamentary approval. Did Blair sign off? Did they have to promise that there wouldn't be any issue of the union?

Assuming Parliament is OK with it, I've pretty much no interest in Charles's marriages. He's an old man now, Diana's dead, his sons are grown and available for the crown. Let him have the love of his life.

[Ishoutandscream]

4. "Peter Brown called to say, you can make it okay, you can get married

in Gibralter near Spain."

"Christ, ya know it ain't easy"

[KharmaTrain]

8. Don't Forget the 50 Acorns...

Boo Hoo...CNNServative, E, Faux and all the corporate media whores can't beat this dog into the ground like they wanted to. Damn that Schaivo woman and the Pope pooping out...the wanted to pull out all the Diana/Dodi videos and the Randy Princess and all the trash that pulls in the video eye-candy set.

My wife summed it up best. We have had several friends remarry, none have had anything more than a private ceremony (usually civil) then a small party/reception. You don't flaunt the second wedding cause it shows what a screw-up you were in the first. This is especially the case with Chuckles.

She reminded me of us staying up during the Chuckles/Di wedding in '81 and how vibrant and exciting the whole thing was. They were young and in love. This is a couple of aging welfare kings and queens, literally, who, besides being eye-sores to look at, are boorish, self absorbed zeros. What's to watch?

Hopefully they'll be the next Duke & Duchess of Windsor...no one will care about them until we read their obits.

[emad]

10. Duke & Duchess of Windsor dukedom/title obsolete since

Royal Edict of 25 december 1971.

[KharmaTrain]

12. Question Time...

I'm not a royal watcher...or know the blood lines...but...

Isn't Chuckles the Duke Of Windsor? Or does he have another official title? And wasn't Diana the Duchess and was able to keep that title as part of their divorce settlement?

I know Camilla will become "Duchess of Cornwall"...and saw a report the other day that no one in Cornwall has a clue what that means. Maybe you do.

Last...if this title became obsolete on the date you mention, wasn't Edward still living at the time...just before his death?

Thanks and cheers!

[emad]

13. Officially he's Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay

etc.

In actual fact he has been Pretender to the throne since 25 December 1971 - a fact conveniently forgotten by one and all.

Duke of Windsor WAS still alive on 25 December 1971 and signed the documents regarding the obsolesence of that title that he and his wife Wallis used.

It had always been a title of conveinence because he and his used his actual birth surname of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. All their personal documents and papers show that.

[KharmaTrain]

23. Ooops...Don't Wanna Mention The Name Change

LOL. The Prince Albert legacy that was conveniently changed during World War I.

Thank you for clearing it up. I get the duchies confused. So, Camilla gets the second billing...per se. Does that mean Chuckles next mistress can apply for Duchess of Rothesay (wherever that is?)

[emad]

30. I think he's being married off to fend off the rent boys who have

been milking the situation dry for a number of years.

"Camilla" is the beard.

[KharmaTrain]

36. Has The Wills Watch Begun?

I haven't seen much about his galavanting lately, and isn't it time he found an acceptable mate to create the next in line? I imagine he still has at least another decade to sew some wild oats, just like dad did, and his granddad and uncle and others before...but I'm sure the tabloids have to be salivating at this next media circus.

[smirkymonkey]

63. That's what I think too...

I have no doubt that Charles and Camilla have high regard for one another and are probably great friends, but I don't understand the whole urgency of them getting married - unless....

He needs a beard and she needs the royal gravy train to keep up her standard of living.

Seems like a marriage of convenience to me, otherwise why not just stay lovers and avoid the public scrutiny?

[cmkramer]

41. Camilla's titles

Once she gets that ring on her finger and the vows are said, she's entitled to every title that every other wife of a Prince of Wales has had -- including Princess of Wales. For obvious reasons, she's chosen to use a lesser title. But she'll still be Princess of Wales.

[readermostly]

50. Title

Yes, from what I've read, she will technically be the Princes of Wales. Camilla will be called Her Royal Highness, but I wish that the late Princess Diana would have her title restored. She is, after all, the mother of the future King. Guess that's not a big deal now that she's gone, but it would be a nice gesture.

[Inland]

31. Is that right? The "Windsor" dates back to WWI

and I distinctly remember that the divorce petition was HRH Diana Windsor v. HRH Charles Windsor". Part of the interest was that the royals don't have last names per se.

[emad]

33. Windsor became the family surname. But Edward VIII refused

to change the surname on his birth certificate, passport and driving licence etc. His wedding certificate to Wallis says Saxe Coburg Gotha.

[Spider Jerusalem]

34. No, he hasn't.

A pretender claims the throne from its current occupant (the son of James II, the "Old Pretender", claiming the throne from George I, is an historical example). Charles hasn't claimed the throne, therefore isn't "pretender" to anything...

[emad]

35. He's pretending to be Charles Mountbatten Windsor. He's not.

his real name is Michael Gelli. The first "Charles Windsor" was killed in 1979 for trying to start a coup.

All this has been excised from the public domain.

[Inland]

37. You mean they killed someone to get THIS guy?

Holey moley. What a waste that was.

And how did they surgically provide him with the car door ears and weak chin of the royal house?

[Spider Jerusalem]

38. I'm confused now.

So there's an interlinking conspiracy to infiltrate and subvert both the Vatican and the British royal family? (Unless I've gone mad, I distinctly remember you mentioning the name "Gelli" as "impersonator" of Karol Józef Wojtyła)...

I can't tell whether you're serious, or taking the piss. :shrug:

Edit: Ought to've checked your profile..."lampooning conspiracy theories"...hehe. (Couldn't tell at first, since one sees some similar things around here that are dead-serious)

[Darth_Kitten]

62. Too bad Charles II didn't have any legitimate children...

and they barred catholics from sitting on the throne...none of this would have happened! ;)

What angers me is I think of that episode when Charles made those arrogant comments about one of his staff "rising above her station", etc, and I'm thinking, excuse me? What has Camilla done to DESERVE titles, riches, respect, etc? Has she ACCOMPLISHED anything of note?

Call me shallow but all she is is the frumpy homewrecking great-granddaughter of an Edwardian call-girl. :( Some lineage. ;)

[Skittles]

14. lol

I don't think Charles was ever in love with Diana - he married that 'prime specimen' out of sheer pressure

[KharmaTrain]

28. They Hate When You Call Them Stud Puppies...LOL

I had a British friend who got real offended when someone called Elizabeth a "incubator for unfunctional dysfunction" (I love that line)...and that the only purpose of a royal is to procreate and hope you get a male. After you do your thing, your totally worthless. He got real flustered, but what could he say?

If Diana married for love, I'm sure it was greatly affected by the money and privilidge that came into her life by becoming the next incubator. She got a pretty good deal out of this as well, and while I salute her work on behalf of the poor, she was pretty self-absorbed herself.

[Skidmore]

20. Well, they were young anyway....

I don't know about the "in love" part. Appears to have been slightly one sided then.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

56. Correction: Diana was young

Age 20. And if you've taught college, you know just how young that is.

Charles was what? Eleven or twelve years older?

[Arugula Latte]

26. Well, it turns out they weren't really in love

Remember when a reporter asked Charles if he was in love (w/ Di) he said: "Whatever love is." Before that wedding he gave Camilla jewelry with intertwining Cs (Chares & Camilla). Diana found out and almost called it off.

Basically, he married Di to get rid of the pressure to marry. She was a virgin and therefore "safe."

It seems Camilla has always been his true love.

[Karenina]

60. Camilla CHOSE Diana

out of the "casting portfolio!" :evilgrin:

[flyarm]

39. Diana's revenge...remember..what goes

around comes around, not on our timetable!!

seems the pope and angel Diana had their own ideas about this wedding!!


viva la angels!!

fly

[emad]

5. Royal couple to acknowledge their sins

April 08, 2005
Times
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent



THE Prince of Wales and Camilla Parker Bowles will confess their “manifold sins and wickedness” when they acknowledge their past transgressions at a service of blessing tomorrow.
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In choosing the confession from the 1662 Book of Common Prayer the Prince of Wales, who is lay patron of the Prayer Book Society, is signalling his continuing allegiance to the traditional language of the Church of England, of which he will one day be Supreme Governor.

-----------------------

Dr Williams will lead the couple and the congregation into the confession with the words: “The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit. A broken and contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.”

They will respond: “We acknowledge and bewail our manifold sins and wickedness, which we, from time to time, most grievously have committed.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-1559639,00.html

HOPE the cops read them their rights before these guys 'fess up....

[emad]

7. The manifold sins & wickedness plea bargain:

The Prince and the new Duchess of Cornwall will join in, saying: "We acknowledge and bewail our manifold sins and wickedness, Which we, from time to time, most grievously have committed, by thought, word and deed, Against thy Divine Majesty, Provoking most justly thy wrath and indignation against us. We do earnestly repent, And are heartily sorry for these our misdoings."


http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=627391

Hope Her "Divine Majesty" then orders a good whipping.......

[Lydia Leftcoast]

57. Those words of "confession"

That wording above is the normal pre-Communion confession according to the older form of the Eucharistic service. It's not any kind of "special occasion" confession. I said it every week myself when I attended an Episcopal church in the 1970s before the new prayerbook was approved.

[readermostly]

48. Charles's own words

If he had spent even half the time trying to help his one month past teenage wife (when they were married) prepare herself for what his family, the press, and everything that went with being the future queen would be than he did with his continually seeing Camilla (for advice - yeah, that's it!!) maybe the outcome could have been different for Diana and Charles. Interesting that his own words were caught saying he wanted to live in the knickers of another man's wife (Camilla) and wanted to be her tampon. Huh - a big Yuck there!!

[Piperay]

6. They deserve to end up in a mess

those two pug-uglies make me :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Pithy Cherub]

9. There are STILL 3 people in that marriage...

Diana, Princess Of Wales (should be HRH) is laughing hilariously in Heaven and smiling at her sons.

[muriel_volestrangler]

44. Or JPII and his hand in their wedding plans ...

[radwriter0555]

11. I read recently that the word is that due to this marriage, Charles will

not take the throne if Elizabeth lives to a certain age; the crown will pass to Prince William, instead.

Considering the Queen Mum lived to almost 100, Charles will never be the King of England. Prince William will.

[emad]

16. All this stuff is spin. And hype.

Neither Charles nor anyone of that fake bloodline will eve accedde to the throne of the UK.

[Inland]

21. Years ago, there was an article in the NYT Sunday mag

Basically saying, "Don't get rid of the monarchy. Get rid of the Windsors". I forget who the article said was next in line.

But that was before William appeared as a good looking and not-too-embarrassing person in line.

[emad]

25. "William" and "Harry" are spin characters. The young Windsor

'Princes' were bumpted off a long time ago when Thatcher was PM - 1985 I think.

These are 'William's' real parents:
Heather Mills - now wife of Paul McCartney
and
Andrew Morton, erstewhile "Diana" biographer....

[northzax]

27. how is it, emad,

that the black helicoptors haven't gotten you yet?

[emad]

32. Let's just say I used to have a very interesting job in legal/

law enforcement related biz.....

[smirkymonkey]

65. Do you have any links where one could read about this?

I must admit that I am curious.

[0007]

66. Aye mate, your a bottles and stoppers? Or under cover Scottland Yarder?

What does "Carry On film" lingo mean?

"You would expect a royal reception to run like clockwork - but this one is likely to be more like a Carry On film.

[Skittles]

18. it is disgusting what that old bat did to Charles

just left him in limbo - she should have passed the crown but she is obsitinate and like you said, not likely to pass any time soon

[radwriter0555]

45. I trust her more than I trust him.

And I think William has the potential to be a venerable world leader.

[northzax]

15. how shocking and embarrasing

for England that the heir to the throne would actually marry someone he apparently loves. Everyone would be much happier if he married another 20 year old ingenue with no concept of what the world is really like.

Would everyone be happier if he'd up and married a 20 year old receptionist instead, based on her looks?

Every woman in the world over the age of 35 should be happy about this, a billionaire who could have almost any woman in the world (who doesn't want to be royalty) marries a homely, steady, comfortable companion instead. what the hell's wrong with that?

I think it's safe to say that Camilla won't be fucking her riding instructor and/or her bodyguard within four years of marriage like some previous princesses of wales I've heard of.

Diana was publically beautiful and privately awful. From all reports, Camilla is the opposite. Good for Charles.

[Skittles]

19. as I said in a previous post

Charles never loved Diana - he married her out of sheer pressure. I too get tired of people comparing Camilla to Diana.

[northzax]

24. I think Camilla stands up quite well to Diana

as a human being. I'd rather have Camilla as a mother, steady, strong and decent, than flashy, attention-seeking, multiple adultress Diana.

Britain is lucky to have her.

[flyarm]

40. i know what you just said had to be sarcasm...

oh please let that have been sarcasm...

camilla is like the dead dog in the corner with a rotten case of mange!!


i was lucky to once meet the wonderful Diana in toronto...my god what a wonderful woman!!

it would take a pack of mangy dogs to even get close to that pig camilla!

fly

[northzax]

43. as far as I know

no one has ever heard Camilla admit, toa biographer, that her riding instructor was fucking her.

Diana admitted to having two affairs within the first five years of marriage.

yes, she was beautiful. yes, she was charming. yes, she was getting bent over the sofa by her bodyguard. take the good and the bad.

I'm personally sorry that you are so wrapped up in physical appearances that you can't even give Camilla a chance to be a human being. what a shame.

[flyarm]

47. what part of on charles wedding day he got a ring that looked like

a "chanel"
with two c's crossing each other as a wedding gift when charlie married diana ...a gift from from camila...did you not get??
when diana asked charlie if it was from camila he said yes on his wedding night no less..intertwined c's...hmmmm i guess you over looked that right??

fly

[greenbriar]

54. oh so Charles can FUCK the dog

right before he goes on his honeymoon

but after knowing he will never love her Dianna can not persue love?


how glass house you are

[mondo joe]

58. No, Camilla was getting bent over the sofa by someone else's husband.

Quite a lady!

[Javaman]

17. Here's a hint England, desolve the monarchy!!!

What a bunch of money sucking fops! Get rid of those useless fools. What have they honestly done for you lately???

[Name removed]

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[tx_dem41]

64. Here, here....the way some Americans pay so much fawning attention...

...to the British royalty makes me wonder why we ever fought the American Revolution.

[emad]

22. Curse of Diana Act 9/11, Scene 43: Wedding off as Pretender attends father

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s1i7822

[leftofthedial]

29. Monarchy a "shambles"

[DinahMoeHum]

46. Gawd, what an ugly dog that woman is! She could walk into

a prison full of hard-core cons, and come out unscathed.

:evilgrin:

[MADem]

67. That cheating jug eared wuss she married is no prize either

So they probably deserve each other.

I say abandon the monarchy and make those slothful putzes pay their own way. They'd probably all end up in council housing in three generations or less.

But hey, they are a priceless source of the world's news-tainment, just the thing to keep one from thinking about important things, like war, peace, hunger poverty, and justice...

Bread and circuses, bread and circuses!!!

[Bake]

49. Does anybody really give a royal fuck anyway???

As if it really matters??? Good lord ...

Bake

[Stephanie]

51. Did you see that report where a reporter drove a random delivery truck

onto the grounds? They did not check it, it was not authorized, they waved him in and he had a big box in the back labeled BOMB. Then he drove the truck all over the place and nobody stopped him.

[AgadorSparticus]

52. is it so wrong to hope that chuckles lives out the rest of his life as

miserable as he made Diana's life? :D I'm not asking much. But, if there is any justice in the world, the wedding will make big headlines like,
"Less than half invited showed up to royal wedding" or

"Freak storm blows away royal wedding" or

"Food poisoning spoils royal wedding jollies" or

"Becks caught with other woman trumps wedding story" or

"World's ugliest wedding gown to accompany world's ugliest hairstyle at upcoming royal wedding"

:evilgrin:

[greenbriar]

55. I would love it

I hate what he did to Dianna and if it were not for that DOG Dianna would still be alive and vibrant today.

[mondo joe]

59. I can't think of a more deserving couple. eom

[Melynn]

53. Well, Prince Charlie has made a shambles over everything else

Why should his wedding be anything different?