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pleft Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:22 AM
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Dare I say it, but Springer's show is really good
He is showing emotion AND he is on point. Good, emotional, logical talkingpoints. Not the dreadful humming and awing that plagues most liberal appearances in the media.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:24 AM
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1. I concur. Do you know his history?
A lawyer, a successful politician and mayor.
He is a serious person.
He is not his TV show.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:30 AM
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8. yes, he IS his TV show. And, how in the hell is he a 'successful'...
...politician? He was forced to resign from office for a sex scandal.

It matters how someone makes their fortune, and he made his by outright expoliting the bottom of our social food chain.

Take the blinders off. The guy is sleaze...and his radio show is boring.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:48 AM
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16. He was elected AFTER his scandal. That sounds like a pretty astute
politician. Thanks for your input, though.

BTW, I favor separation of church & state.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:43 PM
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31. what does 'church and state' have to do with it?
what an utterly inane comment.

Sleaze is sleaze. It's not like you have to be some kind of holy roller to identify sleaze, do you. I'm sure you rant like the rest of us against BushCo sleaze everyday. Does that make you Jerry Falwell Jr?

Read dirtbag's bio:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Springer
Springer was elected to the Cincinnati city council in 1971, at the age of 27. He resigned in 1974 after it was discovered that he had paid a prostitute with a personal check that had been found when police raided a massage parlor. A few days later he made a public announcement about and apology for this affair; the next year he was reelected to the city council (though he had to run as an independent). A few years later, in 1977, he ran as a Democrat in a successful bid to be mayor of Cincinnati; he was 33.

But never mind that. The guy is on film f*cking porn stars. He has made millions of dollars exploiting the absolute bottom of society. Watch his show sometime and then tell me you want this filth as one of the most prominent liberal voices in America.

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:06 PM
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26. So we should hold the bootlegging and god knows what else
against the Kennedys.

Thanks for the ethical lesson.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:24 AM
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2. I think he is the most genuine on AAR with his callers.
He doesn't just use them as a wall to bounce his stuff off of; he tries to get them to open up. That's empowerment.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:25 AM
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3. you have got to be kidding me.
he's awful...especially how he's been talking about what Jesus today would be like. Worse yet, his show is boring. But hey, if you like, be my guest.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:27 AM
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4. He is absolutely dynamic!
He is a great businessman too! His low-life show is simply entertainment and it is actually a true reflection of that sub-culture. I see them daily in the jails.....we just don't hang in this group so we think it's nuts...Jerry nailed an untapped market! Smart man.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:28 AM
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5. I like him too....am surprisingly impressed
by his passion, his intellect, his logic, his non-hysteria. The only thing I don't like is his monotone voice. I have become a Jerry convert and regular listener.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:28 AM
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6. You stole the words from my mouth. I love his show.

He just said, paraphrasing, "This is a vanilla war, this is a free war. This is a war with three tax cuts and no draft. We hide this war. Bush borrows money to make it look like this is a free war. If people were asked to sacrifice, they would be in the streets".

A class act. He is now in my trinity: Mike, Randi, Jerry.
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74dodgedart Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:46 AM
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14. He's making a great point
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:29 AM
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7. Very captivating and entertaining.
All those years of grimacing when I came across him on TV are forgiven.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:33 AM
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9. i`ve only heard him a few times
and not on the radio.he`s very good,it maybe all those shows with the "freaks and side show performers" have given him more insight into the human condition than 99% of the other taking heads in the media. letting people talk seems to be a lost art nowadays
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:40 AM
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10. his radio show is starting to grow on me
To me, he sounds like he's aiming his message at those working people that the Right has snookered into voting against their own self interest with the guns/god/gays smoke and mirrors. When decrying a Bush atrocity such as the Bolton nomination, Springer emphasizes why it's bad for the U.S. Vitally important. He's appealing to their self-interest and taking back the idea of patriotism, to claim these as Democratic principles. I think he's smarter than I thought he was.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:43 AM
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11. I'm finding myself drawn to it more and more
there's just something about him that makes me want to listen. I never watched his TV show and never gave him much respect until now. He's really good at getting the message out and educating people. I'm predicting his show will soon be the biggest show on AAR. I love Al, but he spends too much time trying to be funny (and most of the time he's not) and doesn't cut to the chase like Jerry. I love Randi too but she can be abrasive and that's a turn off to a lot of people. Jerry has a very good way of dealing with people; even people that don't agree with him. We need someone like this who is likable, to get the truth out. Right now he's talking about PNAC. I'm betting 90% of his traditional fans had no idea about this stuff. If even a few are listening now, he will be very powerful. These people will hopefully spread the word to their friends and finally the truth will get out.
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:44 AM
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12. His TV show is pathetic, but I too am warming to him on aar
gosh the early morning show is moronic. It is so bad you have to watch to see just how bad it could possibly get. And the cycle continues.

But aar is pretty good.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:58 AM
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18. He is not his TV show. nt
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:46 AM
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13. I agree...he's effective rhetorically, he shows conviction, and stays
on point.

He makes sure to hammer one message home before moving on.

Exactly what we need.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:34 AM
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23. A neat, effective technique of staying on point...after a commercial..
he replays his statements prior to going to commercial to keep on-topic.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:46 AM
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15. Finally, a truly intellectual show on radio.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:51 AM
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17. Springer articulates well. I like him better than Franken's show
which I think is completely BORING
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:02 AM
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19. Politically, Springer seems way to the left of Franken, and much braver.
He will talk about the PNAC, how they are the true power and that they picked Bush as a figurehead, someone electable.

When I talk like that to friends, they call me a conspiracy nut.
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:19 PM
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27. PNAC
Give your friends the PNAC website URL and tell them to become informed, responsible citizens ! Maybe they'll connect the dots. <www.newamericancentury.org/ >
The rad right has been trying to pull off this coup since FDR began to spread the wealth around just a little. God... the
Scaifes and Simons and Coors' and Wall Street and Bushes and UnameThem, have such an insatiable greed for power and assets that's beyond normal imagination. And that's the problem...people can't believe what's happening is a very long-term, deliberate plan to pick our pockets (the US Treasury)
clean. Where do you think the missing $8.8bn went? It ain't
in Iraqi's reconstruction effort ! It's always follow the money... always! Follow the $$ / £ / € / yen, whatever. Peace, people, but
street warfare first...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 03:54 AM
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37. Whoa! I guess you finally put on the sunglasses.
Welcome to reality! :D

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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:58 PM
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32. Do you listen online NSMA?
Cause KTLA needs to start airing it instead of Morning Sedition IMHO.

Also, I don't know whether you saw this on Atrios--

(April 8, 2005) KTLK, the Progressive Talker that launched at 1150 AM on February 3, is taking its first step to make the station live and local. Tomorrow, the “lefties,” as weekday middayer Ed Shultz likes to describe his show, kicks off with a familiar name from KFI, Johnny Wendell (photo). He’ll work from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Johnny has written for the LA Weekly for years under the name, Johnny Angel. Liberal Web site AmericanPolitics.com described him: “Johnny knows how to work a crowd. His voice is the perfect timbre for radio, and he's sharp and coherent, even when - or especially when - giving the heave-ho to annoying callers. He keeps the show light and snappy, even as he deals with the most serious of topics, yet he never fumbles or fudges facts. His standards are higher than most mainstream reporters, yet he slides the medicine down with a smile.”LINK

So we get a local leftie on the radio in LA. Things are looking up.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 03:28 AM
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35. Well...I heard Jerry on Randy's show
and since then I listen online...10 to 1 is a good slot for me since I am often traveling those hours...looks good :thumbsup:
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:08 AM
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34. Franken's show is too much of a circle jerk
every day the same folks and the same strokes...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 04:27 AM
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39. Al wastes so much time talking about Al.
Don't need his chats with his Republican friend, showing us how well Al interacts with others, nor his "Oy, Oy" gibbering segment, which is so tiresome, nor his belief he really should sing every day to let us hear his dulcet tones. I want to hear Democratic news, not Al's goddamned singing. He should burden his family with that, not radio listeners.

Just when you think you can't take it any longer, he momentarily remembers to start doing his show.

Jerry Springer is very professional, keeping his show lively, working in a lot of the material we see each day at D.U. Hearing it discussed on the good shows at Air America is truly like water in the desert.

Al sucks. Jerry's getting off to a terrific start.

I don't care any more about Jerry Springer's private life than I did Bill Clinton's. (I also didn't watch his tv show, as it simply wasn't interesting enough.) I listen to him because he carefully reads the available news, and is happy to discuss it. We meed all the bright show hosts we can get.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:07 AM
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20. I hate his TV show but he's super on the radio. Great talking points...
He really is on target with his analysis.

Common sense dialog.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:08 AM
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21. Yup. Good to see people waking up to a good Democrat. nt
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:09 AM
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22. I caught it yesterday
he IS good
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:38 AM
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24. We'll take whomever we can get
Howard Stern, Larry Flynt, Springer. We'll take 'em all; we need all the help we can get.
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:01 PM
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25. Mayor Springer
I'm in Cincinnati - no jeers & tears, please. City (not county sadly) went Kerry 66% - 30% !
Brief historic overview -Cincinnati has a city council / "weak" mayor form of government. Back then the mayor was not directly elected but was usually the top vote getter in the biennial council elections, with the second year often going to another member of same party.

I'm old enough to remember: Ted Berry, one of the first black mayors in US (72-75); a hip Jewish woman "of a certain age"
who drove a Corvette roadster and was a great mayor, served two terms (76 & 79); Ken Blackwell (yes THAT one...he was Dem then, which says all ya need to know about what a f***kin' opportunist he is!); we had a "diverse" very popular woman (93-99). Gerald Norman Springer (real name) was mayor in '78.
This history may belie the "conservative" rep we have.

He then became a news anchor on NBC affiliate here, very good.
His brief "essays" at end of newscast were always thoughtful
and of interest, quite often eloquent. He closed with "Take good care of yourselves, and everyone else." Or something akin. A compilation tape of these would reveal a fine mind, and be entertaining as well.

He jokes about how sleazy the TV show is, sorta like pro wrestling. It still gets good ratings, IIRC, so there IS a daytime audience for that sort of show. But his identification with the show could harm his political ambitions here in Ohio. Rumors
abound about his running for the US Senate, not sure if he's
considering governor.

I believe he's doing great on AAR! Personally I'd rather see him have nationwide impact with a media (TV?) current events / opinion show, rather than getting "lost" in the Senate. Just my 2¢,
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easttexaslefty Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:23 PM
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28. Just started getting aar
I really enjoy his show...one of my favorites
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:40 PM
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30. Thanks for the insight
I knew very little about his history.

Welcome to DU!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:34 PM
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29. this is good to hear. first days, i heard people dump on him
but i have listened to him a lot over the years, though he fed that trash, (which was mostly the uneducated and if they did vote, would vote bush) he was always briter and on point and put that stuff in its place. these people want to be on, they want to do, and people want to watch. who am i to say no to them

but i always liked when he talked politics and life in general. so i am glad to here that he is doing well. havent listened. but all the reasonable voices we can get is good for us
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 12:05 AM
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33. I thought it was good too.
and I was the loudest objector. But I like it. I like that it has calls it makes it more interesting than Franken, which I hardly listen to anymore. Overall a more accessible show than Unfiltered. Good choice by the management. We have a solid lineup from 9am to 7 pm. now.

I say lets get more pros and get rid of those shit balls like "Kyle Jason" show - WTF is that? Steve Earl. Chuck D. - he's the worst. it's like "what the hell is he talking about?" Forget this trying to be hip crap and get to more real deal people. Can't we get Malloy on earlier? I can't even listen at night because I can't take my dose of angst that late in the evening...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 04:00 AM
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38. YES! Mike Malloy on AAR for 5 hours would be GREAT!
:D
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 03:32 AM
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36. I think it's really good too, and unlike Limpballs,
He takes calls from EVERYONE, not just people who agree with him. And he engages in civil respectful discourse with them.
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