Did Clark pre-empt Edwards announcement with his own??

[madfloridian]

Is this true?

[liberalnurse]

1. It kinka worked out that way.....

I'm thinking.....it's either just timing and coincidental as Clark needs a pre-lude to his speech on the 19th...or, he is a General and it is a race....is this cut off the food supply to your enemy?

[hayu_lol]

4. Ummmmm...thats politics folks...

Time for street parties across the country to hold donation parties.

Always have to laugh at the press when reporting all this...the old tag line about the General who has no political experience--I dont know any general who doesnt have political experience.
No repugnant had any qualms about Colin Powell's lack of political experience. Or Shrub's lack of any experience at all.

[searchingforlight]

15. Hell, shrub still lacks political experience!

[Bombtrack]

30. bullshit

that was a dirty selfish prick move

that's politics huh? It's really sad when fellow democrats can metaphorically sucker punch another candidate and it's shrugged off.

I don't know if it was Clarks decision, and I hope it wasn't, because who'sever it was clearly doesn't give a shit about fucking up one of the most important moments in a man's life and everyone who cares about that man

[Skidmore]

2. Who cares? Edwards has been CAMPAIGNING for

weeks now. Personally, I haven't made up my mind for any one of these guys yet, but I guess I had assumed that Edwards had already announced.

[madfloridian]

6. I care. That is what Bush does. Democrats shouldn't do it to each other

;(

[Skidmore]

10. These guys are politicians not gods...

and they are gaming and playing for keeps. I get pretty fed up with the game, and the one upmanship of supporters. Let all of these politicians get out there and talk. No one person is more entitled to a stage than any other, including any potential D candidates.

[Clark Can WIN]

13. Ohh, jeez

Edwards has been campaigning for MONTHS! If Edwards is upset about the timing (which I doubt) he could always reschedule his own announcement for a more desireable impact. He's already obviously running anyway, so what would it really matter. It may even be a smart move with the hurricane coming and eating up air time.

Especially in NORTH CAROLINA, where he's from, where he's announcing and WHERE THE HURRICANE is about to smash into.

[madfloridian]

17. Clark has been campaigning for a while as well.

Oh, jeez. I am supporting Dean, but I like Edwards, was just trying to find out why it all happened this morning. But be honest, Clark has also been campaigning for a while for sure.

I like most of the candidates, and I get upset when any of them shows lack of support toward each other. I think most of my posts reflect that. I don't care who it is.

I did not have the TV on, and all the posts were saying Clark announced, that is why I asked. I knew Edwards was announcing. Should I have asked if Clark deflected attention from Edwards?

OH, and your post indicates that you think perhaps Edwards inconvenienced Clark. You said Edwards could have changed his. A little one-sided there.

[salin]

26. Clark didn't announce - I think it was the MEDIA which played it this way

and I think they like trying to pit the dems against one another, and "shape the news/events", and that we should be paying very close attention to this.

[madfloridian]

29. Thanks, that is what I was looking for.

Just shows how "confusing" ?? this DU board can get, don't you think?

I would say that since I did not even turn on the TV, asked my husband what he saw on TV about it, he said he did not see anything except that Edwards was going to announce around 10.......that I got a wee little bit confused by propaganda on this forum.

That makes my point. Thanks.

[AP]

3. It shows you who he thinks the real competition is.

I think Edwards is still going to end up on top.

[madfloridian]

5. Did Clark announce at the same time?

It has been all over the news this morning that Edwards was announcing and what time.

Did Clark choose the same time to announce his?

I am insulted for Edwards. That was awful.

[AP]

7. It's actually a huge compliment. And I don't think Edwards

cares if Clark enters now or if he entered 9 months ago.

I think Edwards probably accepts that the media wants anyone but him to be the nominee, and he's coming up with strategies to deal with it.

[madfloridian]

8. You may be right, but it seemed like an attention-grabber.

I was quite impressed with Edwards on the Daily Show last night, by the way.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. I Like John Edwards Alot

I just think Wes Clark has a better shot...

Why would the media want to sabotage a Edwards candidacy?


Uber insider Al Hunt was doing his best to tout John Edwards to all his and Judy Woodruff's inside the beltway friends...

[AP]

20. Because big media wants a Republican to win in 04

and I think it's pretty obvious that, to beat a Bush, you need to run a guy like Clinton, and that's Edwards.

I'm talking about the owners and the editors of big media.

[jos]

9. I think so

I think Edwards is hurt the most by this because Clark is a southerner, and is Clark's biggest threat in the region because of it.

[Clark Can WIN]

11. I think he was trying to pre-empt Isabel

Not Edwards. I like Edwards tremendously but he will not make it to the White House this go around. Perhaps in the future.

[Vis Numar]

19. why do the clark folks

appear to be the ones here on DU that blatently disregard the tagline policy of limiting their image size?

[Avalux]

12. Clark hasn't formally announced yet

it will be tomorrow with a press conference. Edwards is doing his press conference today. So that isn't so bad.

[Starpass]

16. Was just talking about this with another DUer

I didn't know there was any announcement in the last hour--did I miss something?? Anyway, there is a HUGE problem that Clark is/was running into. It's the damn hurricane. By tomorrow all the talk is going to be on that storm and when it hits it will take all of the oxygen the news media has to give. I know he said he would announce before Sept 19th so he has to keep that deadline in mind. But he absolutely cannot announce Thursday or even Wednesday afternoon with this clogging up the airwaves. I don't think he was trying at all to slap Edwards and I don't think he views Edwards as one of the guys he has to beat.

[Nashyra]

18. Clark did not pre empt Edwards

He had a team gathered in Ark and told them yes in fact he had made a decision but he did not tell them what it was. It was one of those whowas questioned and said yes in fact that he had decided to run but would be making an announcement on Wed. With the hurricane coming I think it was a wise move. Everyone knew it was going to happen this week. My thought is anyone overly critical of him because of the "timing" has another agenda. Actually it gives Edwards a higher profile because he was not polling well and coupled with the CA recall being put on hold it is a great morning for politics and Edwards is getting some benefit. Candy Crowely on right now.

[madfloridian]

21. I don't have an Edwards agenda.

I was asking a question without the TV on, just what I read here at DU. I am a Dean supporter without an agenda on anybody, thank you very much.

So if I am confused, could it be the agendas here at DU that are confusing?

Now I will turn on the TV and seek to figure it out. Apparently I get biased news here. Could that be?

[Nashyra]

23. I was not responding to your question

only some of the negative post, if I had not been watching TV I would have come to the same conclusion as you did.

[PurityOfEssence]

22. Oh, it's a little tacky on someone's part; big deal

Gut tells me it's a dissembling winger in the press who wants to draw fire away from Edwards and just continue the perception of disorganization among the Dems. If someone from the Clark camp did it, I'm sure they're catching some hell right now, and it's not such a big whup.

It's annoying that my guy can't seem to get a break, but c'est la guerre.

Let's not jump to conclusions; Clark seems like an honorable guy and I don't think he'd condone something like that. Surely it's a small gain for the perception of ill-will it would raise should it be shown to be true.

I truly doubt it's some evil back-room scheming by Clark himself to cruelly steal Edwards' thunder. Chill, folks.

[tjdee]

25. I agree.

Clark has no reason to move in on Edwards like that.

I see ZERO coverage of Edwards' announcement, and I'm more inclined to think it's the media fault rather than Clark's, and that some bigmouth leaked.

I'll be interested to see what Clark says this afternoon on Inside Edition, if Woodruff asks him about it. He seems to have easy access to CNN at least, and is quick on the draw lately (with the Dean VP thing, etc.).

[theboss]

24. Does anyone care about "announcements?"

I mean, did Edwards annoucement actually mean anything? Did we expect him NOT to run?

I'm saying this as someone who still likes Edwards above everyone else though that could change quickly.

[PurityOfEssence]

31. Well, respect for ceremony is one of the pillars of politics

Not letting someone have his deserved day, especially when it's been long-announced, is creepy. I say this more at the detriment of the media than anyone else. This is a fuck-job from the media. If Clark's people had something to do with it, they're pure filth.

What a disgusting, annoying, no-win situation.

[CMT]

27. well it appears to be the case

after all I thought it was Friday that his big announcement was to be made. Why suddenly today? just before Edwards. It may be politics, but I think it stinks.

[dave29]

28. Yeah but I think he was trying to avoid the

hurricane coverage which will be nonstop tomorrow

[AP]

32. If he understands storm's influence, he should have respected Edwards

He can't pretend that he didn't want his story to be buried by storm coverage, but then not appreciate that his story would step on Edwards's toes.

[LTR]

35. Yeah!

Because Edwards announces his candidacy over a span of MONTHS.

Heaven forbid anyone else anounces in that time frame!

If anyone believes this is a sleazy tactic, then I've got a bridge I can sell you. Real cheap.

[tjdee]

33. The media whores again.

That's who I blame.

[Merlin]

34. It's because Clark is really running for VP vs Edwards.

He has made the correct assessment about his proper role. He'll make a great ticket balancing running mate along with Dean or Kerry.