Rose Siding
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Sun Jul-13-03 08:44 AM
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CNN- Is it an impeachable offense? |
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They are comparing Bush's lie with Clinton and actually asking if a lie about war, where people DIE, is worse! The anchor has a British accent and the repub accused him of spinning.
I'm floored. They bandied about the word "impeach".
Too much. I'm stunned. :bounce:
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Sun Jul-13-03 08:48 AM
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1. Yes. Lying in the State of the Union |
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violates the President's constitutional obligation to give the American people the facts about their situation.
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Sun Jul-13-03 09:59 AM
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10. The SoTU is directed at the Congress... |
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...specifically. That doesn't make your statement less true, though, since the Congress is supposed to be there representing the rest of us. Anyway, if Clinton had put deliberate falsehoods in his SoTU address, Newt's boys would have been all over him, something about violating a specific provision in the Constitution and all.
I say it is equivalent to perjury, but that's just me.
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Sun Jul-13-03 08:49 AM
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Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 08:50 AM by leftchick
WoW! That happened much quicker than I expected. I really thought Impeach would take months to hear from my TV.
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Sun Jul-13-03 08:49 AM
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In any case, he's not simply regurgitating the WH talking points, which is refreshing.
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Rose Siding
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Sun Jul-13-03 09:02 AM
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As I think of it, you're right.
The repub tried to drag Clinton into the discussion too deeply, but it ended up not really being about that. It is EASY to re-direct the conversation when that happens: Yes but no one's life was at stake. Or: Yes, but if that's ivestigated, shouldn't this be?
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Sun Jul-13-03 09:04 AM
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5. This may be a sticky point... |
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but the whole process against Clinton was, "the lies", then, "the lies under oath". OK, everyone agrees that bush lied, let's put him under oath, and then go for the gold.
These are the same people that lowered the bar in the first place, now they want to have it raised again. It won't fly. Even with Tenet falling on his sword, bush is toast. There is no way the press is getting off of this one. The free ride is over.
So, here we go; the ride will be bumpy, but the path is cut, and our sleeping Fourth Estate is finally rising to the occasion. Each tragic casualty in Iraq, brings one more piece of the wall down. Repugs are asking questions, hard questions, and this in itself is amazing, the sand is blowing away from base, and the admin is goping to fall. Rummy will be the next to go, then Rice.
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Sun Jul-13-03 09:06 AM
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6. Seen it too. I was pretty dammed impressed with the CNN guy n/t |
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Sun Jul-13-03 09:43 AM
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7. Lower bar for impeachment now |
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Well, the Republicans lowered the bar for impeachment, didn't they... So they'll have no one to blame but themselves... Now you can say "impeachment" in polite company w/o being banded a raving loony.
Only prob: Republicans control all the committees.
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Sun Jul-13-03 09:43 AM
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8. It's lying under "the oath of office" of the POTUS, isn't it? |
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Certainly conducting a war is one of the duties of the POTUS and if the justification was a lie, then the oath of office was violated. What's to question?
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Sun Jul-13-03 09:54 AM
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Keep it goin, baby!!
Damn right its impeachable. The requirement of the SOTU is laid out in the Constitution, so lying in commission of it MUST be considered high crimes and misdeameanors. How ELSE could it be interpreted?
Clinton lied in public and to the grand jury...that's ONE thing. He didn't decieve the American public into fighting a war where 200 Americans have died, and 10,000 Iraqi civilians died, and hundreds of billions of dollars have been hoodwinked from the American people in the commission of these war crimes.
GEORGE BUSH IS A CRIMINAL! PUT HIM IN JAIL!
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Sun Jul-13-03 10:06 AM
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floored is right.
on friday after the Tenet letter I was posting on dKos comments and probably here, that the administration had won again and it would probably blow over. but it's looking more and more like I was way off base.
if so I LOVE being wrong about it!!!
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Sun Jul-13-03 10:10 AM
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12. Who is they? WOW!!!!! |
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Which anchor/reporter said it?
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