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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:51 PM
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Why does anyone think Hillary is a viable candidate?
there are still people here it seems who want her to jump in or at least be VP. I say she would offer nothing to the ticket for one simple reason: Who would vote for her who did not vote for Gore? Almost no one. Yet plenty who voted for Gore would NOT vote for her, and the only result would be the freepers being mobilized and the right turning out in droves. She wouldn't bring in any Green votes either. What's the advantage of her?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:53 PM
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1. more HIllary-bashing flame bait
The Repukes keep bringing her name up to rile their troops. Karl Rove thanks you for the free assistance.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:54 PM
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3. on the whole "there's going to be a huge revelation in October" thread
a lot of people thought it had something to do with Hillary and were excited. I don't see why anyone would be so excited about a pro-war DLC shill who would bring the right wingers out in droves
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:56 PM
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more Hillary-bashing flame-bait
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:54 PM
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2. Does anyone think that?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:55 PM
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4. here apparentely
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:56 PM
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6. oh..
Yeah, you can rile up a few diehard Clintonistas doing that I suppose. No one sane would think it was a hot idea.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:01 PM
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10. I just read that thread
Hillary only came up a few times. She's not running so don't worry!
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:56 PM
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5. Hillary as VP would position her to run for Prez in 4 to 8 years.
Hmmmm.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:57 PM
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7. she doesn't need it to position herself
as I said before, all her being on the ticket would do is mobilize the right and get freepers pissed off at Bush to vote for him anyway, we can't have that.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:05 PM
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11. Excuse me if I missed something,
but what makes you think freepers are going to vote for anyone other than Bush anyway? My take is we are trying to get a Democratic candidate into the White House, not another Republican.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 04:43 PM
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12. I'm not saying the freepers will vote for a Democrat
my point is that it'll mobilize them to vote for Bush, instead of not voting or voting third party, which a lot are threatening to do. The ones that are upset with Bush will now vote for him just to vote against Hillary.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:59 PM
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8. Polls show she does best after Gore against Bush - pulls Female vote
well above what other Dems get (and pulls a bit less male votes than Gore).

She is very Very viable.

The Right wing "Clintons are shit and everyone hates them" reflects Fox News and Scafie and the Wall Street Journal - and the New York Times - meaning right wing crap, or the "left media" as in the NYT where the editorial board is invested in not saying they were wrong to scream about scandals that did not exist.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 04:45 PM
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14. right now the polls are just name recognition
she has the highest. I still stand by saying that there is almost no one who voted for Gore who would vote for her, (my mom said she wouldn't for Hillary against anyone except Bush), but there are loads who wouldn't, including many liberals who see her as oportunistic or are pissed at her for various reasons.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:00 PM
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9. Hillary is a viable candidate but
she is too polarizing to win. Before she could even consider a run she needs to have a good ten years or so of distance between herself and Bill's presidency. Hillary's resume is incredible, I consider myself fairly accomplished yet when I read Hillary's book I was ashamed of myself for my lack of activity. She's quite and amazing woman. she would get my vote over Bush (but then i would vote for my sister's cat over Bush). Right now though, she is absolutely loathed by the rightwing (for no good reason that I can find other than being a democrat and being married to Bill Clinton) and as such would generate a HUGE backlash if she tried to run at this point (and I'm sure there are some people with a clue on her staff who are telling her just that).
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 04:46 PM
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15. isn't that an oxymoron?
Edited on Tue Sep-16-03 04:48 PM by ButterflyBlood
she's viable but she can't win? But that's what I think, she can't win because she is way too polarizing.

I'm not really that worried though about her as VP. That thread supposedly had news against Dean and I can't see him picking her since she represents the establishment of the party he's railing against. She'd make more sense for Kerry but I doubt he's stupid enough to put her on the ticket. Lieberman probably is though.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 04:44 PM
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13. Hillary won't run
but in 2008, should the worst happen (Bush reelected), I think she might do it.
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