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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:53 PM
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Mission NOT Accomplished Day - May 2, 2005
www.missionnotaccomplished.us




www.missionnotaccomplished.us

Calling all writers, bloggers, stringers!

We need your help to mark this anniversary.

It's been two years since Mr. Bush declared "Mission Accomplished!" in his hired flight suit. How many people have died since that pronouncement? And as we all have seen, nothing could be further from the truth. Our illegal war has only led to the deterioration of both our nation and theirs.

Please join us in a day of peaceful resistance to this mendacity.


Read more here:

www.missionnotaccomplished.us


Please ring up your outlets and networks and ask, where do we do from here? What are we willing to do? When will it be time to reflect, if not NOW?


An exerpt from the site:

May 2, 2005, We the People have a plan to remember that day, and to keep remembering it until we bring home our troops and begin to repair our damaged relationship with the rest of the world.



Read more: www.missionnotaccomplished.com

Just for this one day, we will not be complicit and we will speak truth to power. Please join us in any way you can.

- Post a notice to your blog
- Post a notice to your favorite forum
- Get the word out in any way you can.


This effort has not been bought by anyone. And it is being forwarded simply by those of us who know and are willing to say in plain English, as of May 2, 25, the mission was NOT accoomplished. And that these slogans, hijacking our support of our troops, are lies.

We will not buy into the destruction of either a foreign people or of our own state in the service of corporate interests. We will not agree to be the agents of our own corruption.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us


So. If you have a blog, a column, any outlet; if you post to popular boards or just to your own political party, join us. There are some anniversaries we must mark to retain our integreity as a people.

Please join us on this one.

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomoplished.us
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:20 PM
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1. Kick!
:kick:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:09 PM
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206. kick
:kick:

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:39 PM
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2. A day to reflect on the horrors that attend stolen elections; a day...
...to reflect on the incalculable costs inflicted on humanity by the theocratic neoconsters; a day to reflect on how many Iraqi children are starving or who have been vaporized.....a day to consider options, peaceful and legal, to resurrect America.

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:26 AM
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43. May 2nd is my B-day...
...and my B-Day wish is for everything you've stated in your post...

Wise consideration of many options benefitting America;

Peaceful, and legal resurrection of the America I've known before the theft of the 2000 Presidential Elections;

Rumors of America poised to declare war on Iran merely a myth;

The steady, but fluent evacuation of our troops out of Iraq, and have my younger sister return home with her husband.

Just a few things I'll be thinking about when I blow out the candles on my cake that day...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:54 AM
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46. We'll blow them out with you.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 02:56 AM by sfexpat2000
The tide has turned. There's no stopping a people once they get a handle on the truth. Sounds pat, but it sure worked that way when we ended the Viet Nam war.

May all your people come home safe and whole.

Beth

/typing
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:20 PM
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58. An early "happy birthday" and know that you will be in our thoughts...
....as we spend the day reflecting on the vast network of new relationships that are being created as a result of folk doing the simple act of sharing one URL:

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

Imagine the power as the network expands.

Imagine the consequences that a simple message containing the knotted rope icon as it quickly spreads, on various days after May 2 2005.

Imagine that on those days we will all celebrate someone else's birthday as part of another day of reflection, another act of reminding those who serve us as our government, that the power of "We The People....." is ours, and not the few big-buck special interests that seem to have forgotten that America is a democracy, not a theocratic plutocracy.

Peace.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:40 PM
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59. An early 'Happy Birthday' to you and we will be thinking of you....
....as we spend the day reflecting on the vast network of new relationships that are being created as a result of folk doing the simple act of sharing one URL:

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

Imagine the power as the network expands.

Imagine the consequences that will result from simple message containing the knotted rope icon as it quickly spreads, on various days after May 2 2005, throughout the MNA network.

Imagine that on those future MNA days we will all celebrate someone else's birthday as part of another day of reflection, another act of reminding those who serve us as our government, that the power of "We The People....." is ours, and not the few big-buck special interests that seem to have forgotten that America is a democracy, not a theocratic plutocracy.

Peace.

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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:40 PM
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3. very good idea
:yourock:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:16 PM
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4. Please note......
...the site is:

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

We are all so grateful for dzika posting the notice and the one typo was detected after the DU 'edit' period had expired.

Thank you dzika and everyone who has already contributed to the MNA effort and to all of you who will.

Peace.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:18 PM
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5. Thank you understandlife!
:hi:
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ariellyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:54 PM
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6. Look for a Schiavo-esque incident to blot this effort out n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:50 AM
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45. Not gonna happen : )
Because after these last five years, we know better.

And we are the ones who make the difference. The oorporate/compromised media is losing its audience every day.

This is the revolution -- not so much what we do but mostly, what we allow ourselves to know and to understand.

So, let the distractors do their work. It won't matter. We aren't going away.

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:16 AM
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7. Kick
:kick: and nominated
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imaginary girl Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:26 AM
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8. Kickin'
:kick:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:36 AM
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9. Truth is our most powerful weapon!
Recommend!!!


:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:



Peace!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:08 AM
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10. This is such a good idea, a true community builder. Recommended!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:13 AM
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11. great idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kick
kick!!!!!!!!:kick: :kick: :kick:
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:44 AM
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12. Kicked and nominated. n/t
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:55 AM
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13. What a wonderful idea!
K-k-k-k-k-kick it
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 08:30 AM
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14. Kick
For the cubicle rats - :kick:

Time to quietly protest the evil
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:20 AM
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15. Kick for truth
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:26 AM
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16. Okay, coffee in hand
We do a monthly column here in SF, and this will be our topic. And, thinking . . . I can post this to the MoveOn forum, to "George Paine" 's great warblogging forum and to the CA Greens.

That's about 12 thousand people!

Raise me :)
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SeanQ Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:13 AM
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17. Can someone post on Daily Kos?
Have they started mentioning it on AAR?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:21 AM
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18. A quiet kick
for a quiet protest! :kick:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:39 AM
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19. kick
:hippie:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:47 AM
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20. Warming up with Gary Snyder
For the Children

The rising hills, the slopes
of statistics
lie before us
the steep climb
of everything, going up,
up, as we all
go down.

In the next century
or the one beyond that,
they say
are valleys, pastures,
we can meet there in peace
if we make it.

To climb those coming crests
one word to you, to
you and your children:

stay together
learn the flowers
go light


1974
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:10 AM
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21. Kick
I can definately put a link to this on my site. Wonderful.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:48 PM
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22. A day to reflect on what we should be doing every day after 2 May 2005....
....to accomplish the mission of saving America, and humanity, from the theocratic neoconsters.

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:24 PM
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23. Warm up with Walt Whitman
Reconciliation

Word over all, beautiful as the sky,
Beautiful that war and all its deeds of carnage must in time be utterly lost.
That hands of the sisters Death and Night incessantly softly wash again, and ever again, this soil'd world;
For my enemy is dead, a man divine as myself is dead,
I look where he lies white-faced and still in the coffin -- I draw near,
Bend down and touch lightly with my lips the white face in the coffin.

1865-66
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:25 PM
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24. .
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 02:26 PM by merh
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 04:23 PM
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26. .
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:20 PM
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25. Kick because it MATTERS!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 04:30 PM
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27. Stretching with Yeats
Meditation in Time of War

For one throb of the artery,
While on that old grey stone I sat
Under the old wind-broken tree,
I knew that One is animate,
Mankind inanimate phantasy.

1920
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:05 PM
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28. The Day America Lost Face
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 05:09 PM by SpiralHawk
May 3, 2003 -- high up on the flank of Cannon Mountain in Franconia Notch, NH, the Old Man of the Mountain lost his face -- literally -- the day after Bush pulled his pilot-with-a-codpiece stunt on the aircraft carrier Abe Lincoln ("Mission Accomplished").

I was struck by the sequence of events. Bush prances on Abe Lincoln deck, the noble Old Man loses face immediately thereafter. WTF?

Bush Prances Carrier Deck in Flight Suit - May 2, 2003
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2993415.stm

Old Man story - May 3, 2003:
http://gonewengland.about.com/cs/nhhistory/l/bloldmanof...

For New Hampshire -- for all who had ever seen him -- the collapse of the granite face was a First Class tragedy, for the Old Man was a symbol of honesty, dignity, and honor. He seemed eternal.

I always thought of the Old Man's profile as embodying the same noble qualities as "Honest Abe" Lincoln, whose profile is so familiar to us from the penny. Thus I was deeply saddened to see him "lose face," and could not help but note that it came immediately after Bush pulled that bald-faced PR stunt on the deck of our nation's Abe Lincoln aircraft carrier.

After lying to America, our soldiers and the world, what right did Bush have to celebrate himself and "Declare Victory"? Hundreds of our soldiers have died and been wounded since that day, not to mention the ongoing misery for their families at home and the families in Iraq.

At the time I took this monumental loss of face in the Granite State as a straightforward revelation that the appointee-in-chief was disgracing himself, comporting himself without honor.

After all, as we now know the Iraq war is based completely on BushCo fabrications. Further, Iraq had no connection to 9/11. This is a war of aggression and conquest, supported by Bush's fat cat oil corpobuds. That's why our young men and women are dying over there -- it has nothing to do with national defense.

I also see the loss of face of the Old Man of the Mountain as an Omen that George AWOL Bush will eventually lose face before the citizens of the USA. We shall see.

- EOM -
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:44 AM
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44. Thank you, spiral hawk, albeit late thanks.
The more we hang on to what we know, the more sense it makes to call MendacityCentral out on May 2 -- and to do it productively.

It takes no effort at all to be destructive or casually critical. Thanks for nudging us to do better than that.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:32 PM
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29. .
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:35 PM
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30. A moment with Nelson Mandela
Nelson Mandela – Nobel Lecture

http://nobelprize.org/peace/laureates/1993/mandela-lecture.html

<snip>

"Let the strivings of us all, prove Martin Luther King Jr. to have been correct, when he said that humanity can no longer be tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war.

Let the efforts of us all, prove that he was not a mere dreamer when he spoke of the beauty of genuine brotherhood and peace being more precious than diamonds or silver or gold.

Let a new age dawn!



www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on what we will all do on 3 May 2005, and 5 June 2005, and, and, ..... until we emerge from the 'starless midnight of racism and war')

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:54 PM
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31. Always . . .
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 07:56 PM by merh

Always direct your thoughts to those truths that will give you confidence, hope, joy, love, thanksgiving, and turn away your mind from those that inspire you with fear, sadness, depression.



Bertrand Wilbertforce

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:16 PM
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33. kick
:dem:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:10 AM
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50. Hello!
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 11:11 AM by merh



Hello... hello ? Is anyone there ? Geez, talk about a pour connexion!

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:12 PM
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32. Time for a big KICK!!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:39 PM
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34. May 2 is a Monday
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 09:40 PM by sfexpat2000
We were trying to figure out what we can do. We can't stay home from work because we work from home. We gave up the car so we don't buy gas or oil. Hmmm.

Maybe we could actually find the VA in SF and do something there.

And maybe on May 1, we could flyer the neigborhood. Can I steal the image?

/typing
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:09 PM
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35. The image is for anyone to use; and, we are planning...
...to walk from our home to the VA hospital in Seattle and visit with some of the staff and patients.


Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:15 PM
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36. Thank you, UL. I was thinking, you know who might really
like this idea? Craig Newmark. He's a really wonderful man, a huge community person. He even came out for us once when we did a benefit for our local (and great) homeless coalition. And he put it on his blog for us. Craig must get a gazillion requests, but it wouldn't hurt to ask.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:37 PM
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37. Please do ask him. It would be fantastic if he supported the effort.
Thank you.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:35 AM
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40. I know he's really busy and will ask. Another outlet we should
think about, though, is craigslist. There is an activism forum there and we, no matter where we are, can post to one that is more or less local. A thought, any way.

cheers,
Beth
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:28 AM
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47. Yes. Something several can do. Thank you (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:38 PM
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38. Everyone. Please email/PM Skinner and ask for DU homepage support for....
....www.missionnotaccomplished.us

Thank you!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:28 AM
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39. It's right around the corner!! Keep this Kicked!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:07 AM
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41. A reminder from Elizabeth Bishop
In the Middle of the Road

In the middle of the road there was a stone
there was a stone in the middle of the road
there was a stone
in the middle of the road there was a stone.

Never should I forget this event
in the life of my fatigued retinas.
Never should I forget that in the middle of the road
there was a stone
There was a stone in the middle of the road
In the middle of the road there was a stone.

translation, Carlos Drummond de Andrade
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AmyDeLune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:19 AM
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42. Kick! n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:25 AM
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48. kick
:kick:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:55 PM
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57. .
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:51 AM
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49. Tim Mag Cover
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:17 AM
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51. Great minds! lol n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:52 PM
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52. NOT!



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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:52 PM
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54. kick
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:12 PM
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53. from Wilfred Owen, poet, patriot, soldier, pacifist, KIA 1918
Dulce Et Decorum Est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys!-An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime...
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,-
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

1920

At wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Owen
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 04:13 PM
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55. On May 2, we have an opportunity to turn the official
story back on the liars.

Let's not pass this one up! We can rewrite the story:


Ceremony

I will tell you something about stories,

They aren't just entertainment.
Don't be fooled.
They are all we have, you see,
all we have to fight off
illness and death.

You don't have anything
if you don't have the stories.

Their evil is mighty
but it can't stand up to our stories.
So they try to destroy the stories
let the stories be confused or forgotten.
They would like that
They would be happy
Because we would be defenseless then.

He rubbed his belly.
I keep them here

Here, put your hand on it
See, it is moving.
There is life here
for the people.

And in the belly of this story
the rituals and the ceremony
are still growing.





What she said:
The only cure
I know
is a good ceremony,
that's what she said.


---Leslie Marmon Silko
Copyright, 1977 Leslie Marmon Silko
from the novel, "Ceremony"

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:44 PM
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56. kick for a simple, manageable way to speak truth to power
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:16 PM
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60. kick
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:57 PM
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61. kick n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 01:01 AM
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62. kick
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 01:10 AM
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63. from "Dreaming War"/ Gore Vidal
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 01:11 AM by sfexpat2000
'I do not report on my country's disastrous imperial activities with much amusement. All I wanted to do was tell a story never told before on our television--and never to be told again as long as the likes of GE and Disney are allowed to be media owners and manipulators of opinion.

What to do? Break up the conglomerates. That's a start. And then--well, why not go whole hog--what about a free press, representative government and . . .Well, you get the picture.'

The Nation
September 30, 1996
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 01:31 AM
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64. kick - Thanks for the link. NT
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 01:33 AM
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65. thank you, sir. n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 09:46 AM
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66. Kick (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on what we all must do to end the destruction of our America)
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 03:48 PM
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67. A day to reflect on the insights of David R Griffin
C-Span to Cover 9/11 Truth Talk at UW-Madison Monday!

C-Span will challenge the official version of the 9/11 "terrorist
attacks"
with a nationwide delayed broadcast of a talk by David Ray Griffin at U.W.-Madison Monday 4/18/05, 7:30 p.m., in 272 Bascom Hall. The public is invited to attend, and admission is free.

The nationwide news network C-span has broken the blackout on the 9/11 truth movement, raising hopes that other media outlets will follow, by deciding to broadcast a lecture by David Ray Griffin in Madison Monday night. His brand-new talk, entitled "9/11 and the American Empire: How Should Religious People Respond?" will focus on the ethical and spiritual dimension of facing the overwhelming evidence that the Bush Administration was complicit in the attacks of September 11th, 2001. His Madison appearance celebrates the founding of the new group MUJCA-NET: Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11Truth: http://mujca.com.


Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on the eternal value of truth)
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:00 PM
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68. Neato peato!! I missed this early on it seems...
Thanks!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:29 PM
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70. Thank you, Sir! n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:22 PM
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69. The alternative is bailing. Douglas Adams had some advice on this.
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 06:23 PM by sfexpat2000
How to Leave the Planet

1. Phone NASA. Their phone number is 713 483-3111. Explain that it's very important that you get away as soon as possible.

2. If they do not cooperate, phone any friend you may have in the White House --202 456-1414-- to have a word on your behalf with the guys at NASA.

3. If you don't have any friends in the White House, phone the Kremlin (ask the overseas operator for 0107-095-295-9051). They don't have any friends there either (at least, none to speak of), but they do seem to have a little influence, so you may as well try.

4. If that also fails, phone the Pope for guidance. His telephone number is 011-39-6-6982, and I gather his switchboard is infallible.

5. If all these attempts fail, flag down a passing flying saucer and explain that it's vitally important you get away before your phone bill arrives.

Douglas Adams
Los Angeles 1983 and
London 1985/1986


(We miss you, Mr. Adams!)
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:40 PM
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71. Oh man this would make a great segment on any radio show!
Sam on Majority Report could do this well....hmmm. Maybe his blog?

Maybe we could get him to notice this thread as a link???
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 06:43 PM
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72. Do it! Mail him.
Thanks for being here.

Beth
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 08:06 PM
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75. Make it happen fric! Thank you. (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on all the mechanisms available to We The People to expand the meaning of MNA, throughout the year 2005, and beyond)
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 07:55 PM
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73. The Real Mission
Edited on Sat Apr-16-05 07:56 PM by chlamor
is to put these criminals where they belong.


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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 08:02 PM
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74. Let's us all reflect and plan on MNA day, 2 May 2005, to make it happen.
Thank you.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 11:34 PM
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76. Focus MNA; FOCUS MNA; Focus MNA; FOCUS MNA, 2 May 2005
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=120&topic_id=33482#33732

Make this day the beginning...............


www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 01:17 AM
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77. Kickeroo!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 01:35 AM
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78. We are all Joe Wilson now
'In his signature staccato, Matthews was blunt: "I just got off the phone with Karl Rove. He says, and I quote, 'Wilson's wife is fair game.'" Before abruptly hanging up, Matthews added: "I will confirm that if asked."

The Politics of Truth, Ambassador Joseph Wilson


Why would Karl Rove take Valerie Plame out if this administration was in ANY WAY concerned about weapons of mass destruction? That was Plame's specialization. But that's what he did.

We are all Joe Wilson now. It's open season on our families -- their health, education, welfare, on their lives.

Please join us on May 2nd.
www.missionnotaccomplished.us


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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 01:46 AM
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79. "It's open season on our families -- their health, education, welfare, ...
...on their lives.

Precisely.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on the willful destruction of innocent lives -- a specialty of Bu$h and his theocratic neoconster gang. Any doubt about it, just ask Ms Plame)


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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 07:42 PM
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100. Thanks for leading me here-
It is indeed open season on us, as it has
been on the rest of the world for decades now.
Americans never comprehended that they
would end up in the same condition as those they
silently condoned the horrendous treatment of
by this country.
We, are now, "them."
Question is, when are the flag waving,
"support our troops" ribbon-on-the-bumper-sticker-
with-no-intention-of-actually-enlisting-to-get-their-
asses-over-there-and-fight-alongside-the-troops-
they-"support" Americans going to WAKE the FUCK up???
Yes, the mission has been accomplished, just not
the mission the good Americans thought was accomplished.
The complete destruction of this country has been accomplished
which was the real mission of the people in charge of the FUBAR
situation we are now in.
And to think the sheep cheered it on the whole way.
It would be like cows in the slaughter house offering
to help press the button on the machine that bashes
their skull in.
Simply amazing if you think about it.
BHN
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 08:21 PM
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102. Thank YOU so much for bringing your insights to MNA....
....and thank you for spreading the message.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect, repair and prepare for how we will stop Bu$h and his theocratic neoconster buddies from killing yet another Iraqi child, starving yet another American child, perpetrating yet another lie, torturing yet another person......)
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 03:07 AM
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80. May 2,2005
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 04:06 AM
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81. This is what our kids are enduring and for what? Randall Jarrell
The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner

From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died, they washed me out of the turret with a hose.

1945
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 11:08 AM
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82. Good afternoon! Mission still not accomplished. please help.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 12:03 PM
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83. "Ship of Fools" & "Mission Accomplished" are one and of the same
type of people as the picture depicts.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 12:09 PM
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84. I'm sorry, please explain your comments and the correlation.
Please consider me the stupidest person you have ever met and tell me why you chose to make this statement and post this image.

:shrug:

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 01:33 PM
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87. I think I see the meaning.
The 'mast' of the boat appears to contain images or symbols of death (evil, danger).

Nobody in the boat (clergy, religious people, people of means... well dressed) is paying any attention to the problem of the mast under which they are traveling.

Nor are the people in the boat paying any attention to the poor, hungry, thirsting, suffering people in the sea.

There is ONE man who seems to be seeing the danger in the tree. He looks like he intends to cut it off. (he must be a democrat).

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 01:36 PM
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88. Thanks
n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 03:38 PM
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93. Very goog job of explaining!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 02:40 PM
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89. Wow! So true. Is that Rove chilling the wine? lol n/t
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 07:32 PM
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99. Have you seen the movie?
"Ship of Fools?"
It's a GREAT one for the time we are living.
Old black and white film-
Briefly, the story is this:
Cruise ship full of Germans, each character
representing some aspect of the conditions
and attitudes prior to the rise of the Nazi party.
One character in particular, an elderly Jewish man
continuously proclaiming the pride and love
he has for Germany.
At the end he gets off the boat and you know
what is going to happen to him...
A MUST see movie for all DUers!
BHN
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 12:58 PM
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85. MNA
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 03:25 PM
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92. kick
:hi: :thumbsup: :kick:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 01:20 PM
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86. We Will Mark the Day! Thank You!
Edited on Sun Apr-17-05 01:31 PM by ClayZ
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 02:42 PM
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90. Superb image; thank you (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to repair and prepare for it is the day "We The People" begin ......)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 03:03 PM
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91.  Richard Clarke put it in a nutshell:
"September 11 erased memories of the unique process whereby George Bush had been selected as President a few months earlier. Now, as he stood with an arm around a New York fireman promising to get those who had destroyed the World Trade Center, he was every American's President. His polls soared. He had the unique opportunity to unite America, to bring the United States together with allies around the world to fight terrorism and hate, to eliminate al Qaeda, to eliminate our vulnerabilities, to strengthen important nations threatened by radicalism. He did none of those things. He invaded Iraq."

Richard A. Clarke, Against All Enemies (Free Press, 2004).
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 06:01 PM
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95. Richard Clarke!
I read his book. That is one awesome dude. What has he been doing lately?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 05:32 PM
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94. Paul Krugman on pre-war coverage: "The Dead Parrots Society"
"A few days ago, The Washington Post's Dana Milbank wrote an article explaining that for George W. Bush, "facts are malleable." Documenting "dubious, if not wrong" statements on a variety of subjects, from Iraq's military capability to the federal budget, the White House correspondent declared that Mr. Bush's "rhetoric has taken some flights of fancy."

Also in the last few days, the Wall Street Journal reported that "senior officials have referred repeatedly to intelligence . . . that remains largely unverified." The C.I.A.'s former head of counter terrorism was blunter: "Basically, cooked information is working its way into high-level pronouncements." USA Today reports that "pressure has been building on the intelligence agencies to deliberately slant estimates to fit a political agenda."

Reading all these euphemisms, I was reminded of Monty Python's parrot: he's pushing up daisies, his metabolic processes are history, he's joined the choir invisible. That is, he's dead.

And the Bush administration lies a lot.

. . . .

The recent spate of articles about administration dishonesty mainly reflects the campaign to sell war with Iraq. But the habit itself goes all the way back to the 2000 campaign, and is manifested on a wide range of issues. High points would include the plan for partial privatization of Social Security, with its 2-1+4 arithmetic . . .

. . .

It's tempting to view all of this merely as a question of character, but it's more than that. There's method in this administration's mendacity."

Paul Krugman, The New York Times
October 25, 2002
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 06:55 PM
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96. May 2 2005: A day to reflect on how anyone can justify killing a child...
....; Just how does Bu$h and his theocratic neoconsters do that?

www.missionnotaccomplished.us



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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 07:02 PM
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97. For those in the NY City area: May 1 2005
Please consider supporting and spreading the MNA message at this event:

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/4/17/03659/8606/2#2

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 07:31 PM
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98. kick
Kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 07:42 PM
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101. Request to Josh Marshall, Atrois, Wonkette....
Please view www.missionnotaccomplished.us

Please consider supporting the effort.

Everyone 'owns' MNA.

For some recent comments, see:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3476986

Thank you.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 09:19 PM
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103. "Pre-emptive Peace. Can you dig it?" DUer "caledesi" asks...
....and MNA definitely digs it and is urging everyone to reflect on how much we all should 'dig it.'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3492619#3495779


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect, repair and plan many pre-emptive thoughtful actions for 'peace')
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 09:39 PM
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104. A simple request to EVERY DUer...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 12:40 AM
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105. kick
:kick:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:54 AM
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106. kick
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:47 AM
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107. May I post my opinion?
I see many names in this thread who I have interacted with in the past and respect deeply, and I certainly don't want to get into a flamewar with folks, but I just went and read the MNA web page, and here's my reaction.

I don't want to relax. FUCK RELAXATION.

I want to WORK.

I am working. I am doing precinct training. I am recruiting precinct chairs. I am building a network of Democratic voters. This whole damn country, IMO, is too damn relaxed. People come home from work, they want to "relax," they don't want to go join their HOA and meet their neighbors, they don't want to go to a meeting, they don't want to DO anything. They want to "relax" and have fun and enjoy themselves. Well, I'm all for a certain amount of "time off" and smelling the roses, but I want to figure out how to wake people up. Not tell them to take time off.

I dunno .... :shrug: I just don't get the value of it. Convince me otherwise?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 10:07 AM
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108. Crispini
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 10:08 AM by sfexpat2000
My take is, this day is a day reclaimed. It's yours. If you want to smell your neighbors roses on their porch while you register them, that works for me :thumbsup:

We can tinker with the words -- and will be. But, that's the idea.

And I agree that it's hard to get people up and out. Remember all those reports that Americans don't get enough sleep and work multiple jobs and, in other words, live a life incompatible with community engagement.

This day is an attempt to disrupt that pattern.

What do you think?



/typo
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:10 PM
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111. Well, if you put it that way,
it's a worthy idea. But can the Americans who don't get enough sleep and work multiple jobs afford to take a day off? I know several people who are in this situation. They don't get paid time off. They would lose money in order to do this. :shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:20 PM
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113. (Raises hand)
We're in that situation. And, I don't think we can afford not to.

fwiw
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:47 PM
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128. Mee too (raised hand)!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 05:33 PM
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130. Thank you, WLKjr.
The deal is, we do what can be done -- and try to stretch some.

There's a whole structure here that has to be rebuilt -- the support working people used to have, the hope we have for our children.

I can do that for just one day.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 11:05 AM
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110. Hello crispini!
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 11:26 AM by merh
Trying to start something, ehhhhh!

Just kidding, I know what you mean about fighting them, about never giving up until we toss the evil bastards on their collective asses. I thank you for all you do, you know that I have admired your work and your determination. I only wish I could do half as much as you do. We are lucky you are on our side! ;-)

For me, Mission NOT Accomplished is not about "not fighting" them, it is about publicly mourning the death of truth in our nation. The most blatant example of the admin's lies is when the weed-n-chief stood on that air craft carrier proudly proclaiming that the mission had been accomplished and we all know the mission was not accomplished. Over 1000 of our soldiers have died since that day and thousands of Iraqis have died in this war.

There are times when quiet, reflective action can be just as effective as your efforts. Have you ever had a disagreement with someone or been so angry at someone that all you had to do was stare at them and they knew you meant what you said? Think of this day as the stare of an angry nation.

This isn't a call to march in the streets, it is a call to not give to the corporations, to not contribute one thin dime to the powers that be, to the evil that is stealing our nation because of their greed and thirst for profits. In Poland, the Solidarity movement picketed the government and the held strikes. This is a day for the collective effort of as many as we can get to not work, to not spend, to try to hit them in their evil money belts, the only place they feel anything because they have no conscience. Let the silence of the movement be deafening.

At the same time, we won't waste our day sitting at home, watching the boob tube (leave it off on the 2nd, try to financially hurt the media that hurts us with their lies), we will walk to the VA hospitals and thank the troops for their sacrifices for our nation.

Never give up your fight, but take a day to remember what you are fighting for. Take time to peacefully enjoy your family, go to the local veteran centers and thank the vets of all ages. Go the the homeless shelters and help serve meals or bring some old blankets and clothes. Do something for society and for your soul. Feed your soul with giving and thanksgiving. Anger alone will not get us to where we want to be. We have to take time to reflect on what we love about our nation and what we have and we need to take time to give to the thousands who have been so hurt by this administration and by the lies of our government.

Be angry the 364 other days of the year and fight with all the gusto you can, but on May 2, 2005, take time to quietly reflect on what you love about this nation of ours and to appreciate the people and the love that makes the fight so damned important.

See ya in KOEB! Love to you and yours! Thank you for all you do! Floaty hearts for you! :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:18 PM
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112. Ok, I like a lot of what you have to say,
but what does my participation accomplish? I mean, a day off is a precious resource to me. I work 8 hour days, usually followed up by a community activity in the evening, and I do stuff on the weekends, and I only have so many vacation days. I would rather picket the government and hold strikes. How is my staying home (and you can bet your bippy I'd be the only one in the company doing so) going to make any difference? A real strike would mean shutting the company down, not me taking a vacation day? :shrug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:36 PM
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115. So how do the strikes and the shut downs begin?
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 02:14 PM by merh
Is there some type of mass brain thrust that suddenly folks collectively realize that today is the day we strike? No, it begins some where, with one person, then two, then four, and so on. If you can't take the day off, that's okay. Try to make some type of statement on that day, whatever you can do. How about you give us some ideas to work with when people are in a like position (can't miss work) and ask us these same questions?

Any help you can give us will be appreciated. :pals:

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:03 PM
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120. Thank you for sharing your stimulating insights. MNA May 2 2005 is...
....simply a start.

Let me share a bit of backrgound:

http://forum.truthout.org/blog/comments/2005/3/28/11156/2195/11#11

Peace.



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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #120
121. A bit more context.
Link: http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/3/11/16342/7080

I agree. . . As do many others. . .

"Less Talk, More Action" is a theme that is fast becoming a mantra nationwide, at least within the reality-based community of rational Americans, of all political stripes, including the more sane and rational reality-based loyal opposition Republicans. And your suggestion is one of the best I've seen so far - peaceful, firm, and to the point.

I have a long standing "niche" website (5/10 page rank) that has some popularity, and like so many, a politically oriented blog, that has a small following, also an e-list that includes a fair number of influential activists. I will do all I can through all three to "spread-the-word" of this idea of the simple "stop & fix it," that so many of us have been doing for years already, in one form or another, (i.e. boycotting offending corporations, and politicians, but as we have seen in the last few national elections, they control the voting booths, not "us" anymore through "black Box voting machines", so the "boycotting" of politicians through the vote as "our voice," has been corrupted to the point of a sick-tragic-dangerous joke.)

For some of us, (I'm retired,) this "stopping" will be easy, for others, many others, it will entail some very real restricting sacrifices, (e.g. the millions of parents working more than one job, just to be able to put food on the table and keep a roof overhead,) many simply will not be able "to stop," and they will need very real support from the rest of us, for this type of rational nationwide protest to succeed.

Mike At: The Old Hippie's Groovy Site
"Frivolous Name - Serious Content"
by Old Hippie (hippie@aye.net) on Sat Mar 12th, 2005 at 03:47:06 AM EST http://members.aye.net/~hippie/real.htm


I agree. We have an "awakening" ....

....steadily expanding among all the various constituencies in our Nation. I also agree that the coordination of the type of boycott I'm describing will include neighbors, church groups, community organizations, alumni associations, and the like, providing a variety of "support services" to single parent families, families with both spouses working to make ends meet, and the like.
I think that that could be one of the finest "healing" collateral benefits, in addition to the key issue of forcing those who WORK FOR US in government and the media (whose entire existence depends on advertising that will be immediately impacted by the boycott) to start doing their jobs in service of the Constitution and not the special interests of Halliburton, other defense contractors, and the petroleum industry.

We know we have had insufficient troops since day one of this illegal war, if we were going to do "nation (re)building," and every single day since 19 March 2003, that has become ever clearer. At the same time, our presence in that country has become so toxic as to make the task of helping the Iraqi's a lethal event for them (e.g., just how many trainees need to be vaporized by car bombs before those remaining delusional citizens in this nation get the message).

So, whether the number is 750,000 or 1,000,000 its going to be large. It must be comprised of a wide range of expertise and resources to restructure both the physical infrastructure of Iraq and the societal fabric. That cannot be done by continued American presence. But we are not going to 'get out cheap.' We are going to have to pay, dearly, for the criminal actions of our government, but it does not have to be with more American lives lost. We pay by the physical resources we provide and by paying and supporting logistically the multi-sect, multi-nationality, Islamic and Kurdish peace-keeping, infrastructure building organization that in Iraq.

An orderly withdrawal (as I have proposed) of American forces (and all American personnel), would likely take 3 to 6 months, once the incoming peace-keeping organization began deployment. I do think that with a proper display of humility and commitment, once such a withdrawal coupled with deployment is announced, some of the violence might abate -- principally influenced by both Shiite and Sunni clerics calling a halt.

Thank you for your support and I would hope you would communicate your interest and willingness to collaborate with other blogs and organizations (like PDAmerica and TrueMajority and ...) to get the organization of the boycott underway and to framing it as a neighborhood, community, local organization cooperative event.

Peace.
"Do you enjoy being a citizen of THE rogue, ruthless super_power?"
by understandinglife on Sat Mar 12th, 2005 at 01:58:29 PM EST



And, to expand on one of your insights...

.... regarding support for current working persons and their families, I suggest that among the organizations we would want to be part of the core boycott-for-peace team include AARP, the various labor unions (especially the retirees), and organizations of retired military.

Peace.
"Do you enjoy being a citizen of THE rogue, ruthless super_power?"
by understandinglife on Sat Mar 12th, 2005 at 07:36:30 PM EST



A day of rest

Hear, hear! Gandhi pulled it off in India. We've seen huge numbers of people hit the streets in peaceful protest, here and abroad.
People are hungry for something practical they can do to effect change. Better minds than mine keep asserting that our only hope is economic pressure -- the only language the Neocons might understand. And we would not be alone if we asked for participation abroad.

Here in New Mexico, during the Pueblo Revolt, the coordinators of the uprising sent runners to all the pueblos with knotted ropes, indicating the number of days left until all the remote pueblos would rise up on the same day. They had a rousing success! We could, too! We just e-mail our "knotted ropes"! (Not to be confused with hanging ropes.)

For us, coordination is a piece of cake. Pick a Day of National Relaxation. How sinister can that be? We could all just sit around drinking water and chewing on a toothpick, and remembering what it's like to do nothing (the "nothing" that could turn into "really something"). And if it felt good (after all, America is a "feel good" nation), we might try it again, 'ere long!

And we have good precedent for the above: God, himself (herself?) rested on the 7th Day. Dubya, et al. will surely be able to see that we're just following the example of our real leader (his, too, he claims).

Thanks for your courage because I've heard it said that a general strike is illegal. Of course, so are stolen elections and lies that lead to wars of aggression. Anyhow, how illegal can it be to just relax for a day or two?

Note: A little levity does not indicate a lack of appreciation for the gravity of this matter.

puebloknot
Santa Fe, NM
"It's never too late to be what you might have been." George Eliot "America, are you listening?" on Sun Mar 13th, 2005 at 05:06:35 AM EST



Superb "frame"; just superb.....

....thank you.

"A National Day of Relaxation" (or two, or.... ;-) How about Monday, 2 May 2005, and we can sub-title "A National Day of Relaxation" the 2nd annual "Mission Accomplished, NOT" anniversary.

Email those "knotted ropes" - 5 knotts followed by 2 followed by 5 would be an interesting icon to represent 2 May(5th month) '05. Instead of "let's rock" I suppose we should say "let's tie it."

Peace.
"Do you enjoy being a citizen of THE rogue, ruthless super_power?"
by understandinglife on Sun Mar 13th, 2005 at 12:26:29 PM EST



In addition to the water and toothpick...

....we could encourage folk to get on their bicycles and find a farm stand and buy some produce, honey, homemade baked bread, etc. So, it could a 'fitness/wellness' day; perfect contrast to that two block drive in the SUV to some syndicated grease-and-mystery-substance purveyor.

Peace.
"Do you enjoy being a citizen of THE rogue, ruthless super_power?"
by understandinglife on Sun Mar 13th, 2005 at 02:48:54 PM EST



How to relax

Yes, yes. And let's not forget walking the dog(s).
I know that I am so stressed out that I don't do the common, simple things we all need to remember who we are. We, as a nation, need that, too.

Now, the question is, will any of the progressive organizations be willing to take on such a project, or will they consider it just too silly?

In some ways, I think we need to be careful that this doesn't look like a 21st-Century "Flower Child" project, and to honor the deep, righteous anger which can be used to fuel action. We need to project that our "Day of Relaxation" is a clever ruse for delivering a serious message to the PTB. Too much relaxation, too little money flowing into corporate coffers.

My thoughts, anyway!

puebloknot

"It's never too late to be what you might have been." George Eliot "America, are you listening?" on Sun Mar 13th, 2005 at 06:14:10 PM EST



National Day of Relaxation

Thanks! Glad you liked my idea.

We need a graphic artist to do something for us that we could e-mail all over the globe. I am not such a being.

We would, of course, need to include a story about the Pueblo Revolt, so people would understand the meaning of the rope.

I guess we could use the slogan, "Let's tie one on!" :) Think people would get the wrong idea? (Or maybe that's the right idea. Getting a little sloshed might just be the thing we all need.) And I like the idea of drawing attention to the mission which is definitely NOT accomplished! And Scott Galindez' article today about turning the area over to a multi-national local group is the best suggestion I've seen so far for a sensible U.S. withdrawal.

Although we are kind of joking around here, I remember seeing something on television about a young guy in art school who did some kind of logo and started putting stickers in public places, drawing his little icon on bus benches, etc., and before long, that logo had been tracked on its journey around the world.

This idea of a national "stand-down" by the citizens is a good and a serious one in my view, but sometimes the best way to get something started is with humor. We can smirk back at Dubya!
"It's never too late to be what you might have been." George Eliot "America, are you listening?"

puebloknot

on Sun Mar 13th, 2005 at 06:04:58 PM EST



The interplay of humor, serious and an icon...

....can make this work.


The icon, with a bit of historical context, would deliver the message and the 'date' of the action.

The humor, well you're already on a roll with that.

The serious, is very much why I suggested the date of 2 May 2005 - not only was it a colossal lie about an illegal and massive killing spree, it remains a colossal lie, now, two years later, decorated with even more death and extreme torture. NOT, a mission accomplished that any civilized person would care to have one second of association.

Will, and others in this thread, with a solid internet presence can start the process. I think the theme is something PDAmerica and TrueMajority should find consistent with their mission. And, just about now, I think AARP would like nothing better than to show the current Administration the door (and the slammer).

"Let's tie one on" in_DEED.

Peace.
"Do you enjoy being a citizen of THE rogue, ruthless super_power?"
by understandinglife on Sun Mar 13th, 2005 at 06:25:11 PM EST


And, much has happened since, and will continue to happen as the MNA network grows and as families, neighbors, friends, school groups, community organizations, churches, ....., find ways to be supportive of one another as we steadily demonstrate that We The People ARE America.

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a sustainable approach to being America)

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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 10:52 AM
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109. Peace
"Non-cooperation with evil is a sacred duty"

-- Mahatma Gandhi

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #109
114. Exactly. And notice, how simple his actions were?
Gathering salt!

He was teaching a step towards non-cooperation at every point.

First one step, then another step.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #114
116. Hi sfexpat2000!
One step at a time, one step at a time! :hi:

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #116
117. Hiya, merh!
We're just finishing up our column. Somehow, we linked MNA to teaching "abstinence" in schools. Don't ask me how that happened. :eyes:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #117
118. Send me a link if you can.
And check out this thread in the lounge when you get a free moment.
I'm still laughing (though my post wasn't that funny).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=3074366&mesg_id=3074366

One day my boss is really going get pissed at me for playing to much at DU! :shrug:

Have a good Monday!
merh

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #118
119. You, too! n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #118
122. kick
:kick:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #118
123. ROFLMAO!!!! (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (popes and priests are welcome participants)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #123
124. I love some of the minds that frequent DU!
:rofl:

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #123
134. Check it out!
You have to love the internet!

http://www.popeornope.net/

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #134
140. You do, in_deed!!! (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (the new Pope will be welcome to join the MNA effort; let's be sure someone asks him)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #118
125. I had to stop reading! It HURT so good. lol lol lol n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:44 PM
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126. heeehheeeee
:rofl:

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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:45 PM
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127. Might have to get out a LTTE to my local
Thanks for that post, sad I almost forgot.......
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #127
129. We do what we can - but let's do it!
:kick:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 06:22 PM
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131. kick
:kick:

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 06:27 PM
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132. kick
:kick:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 07:12 PM
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133. Motivational readings for May 2 2005:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3500309

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3500305


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on the vast evil represented by the theocratic neoconsters -- to America and humanity)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:00 PM
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135. For merh, on the occasion of our first MNA Day
Everything you say,
I need to hear
and fear to know,
a little.

People are strange that way.

We work too much, we worry too much
we want too much
We want peace too much,
the end of horror, too much
the end of death, too much
to speak too much.

So, just for one day
one day which is between
one sun rising and
one falling into the dark

We won't buy
won't clock in
won't pump that gas
won't agree
to this spree
of lies, of death or misery.

merh, you let me know
if that sounds right to you,
and I'll try to listen.

All I know is,
I can't do this
any more.

I just want one day,
one whole one
to say, no
you do your killing without me
my sons or my wallet.
Do it if you can, while you can
until we stop your ass.

In other words, "My BFEE friend,
you are on your own. I won't line your pockets
with my children."

(merh, is that what you meant?)

Mission NOT Accomplished.

ef/4/18/2005
www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:07 PM
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136. As I wipe the tears out of my eyes
that is exactly what I meant! :cry:

Damn them to hell, I hate the suffering they cause. I pray each day that I will be forgiven for hating them as much as I do. :cry:

Thank you my empathic and caring friend! :hug:

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #136
137. Don't cry, merh. I think we're all onto something.
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 08:44 PM by sfexpat2000
I just keep remembering this:

"Nobody said it would be easy." -- Leslie Marmon Silko, Ceremony

:hug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #137
144. You are right, we are on to something.
It may not be easy, but with people like you in the world, willing to listen and to try to make a difference, reaching out and caring, it is definitely easier to cope. :hug:

Thank you again.

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:23 PM
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138. Give credit where credit is due - sfexpat2000
This has been posted before, but glad to see it is getting a positive response.

MAY 2: MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHED
Topic started by sfexpat2000 on Mar-27-05 06:20 PM (29 replies)
Last modified by understandinglife on Apr-04-05 03:48 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=106&topic_id=15450
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:31 PM
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139. Thank you but this was all understandinglife!
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 08:35 PM by sfexpat2000
Without his patient work, his sort of counter example to these last TWO YEARS of "either or" thinking, this effort wouldn't have been mounted.

So, what are we willing to do?

It's not like those of us on DU are shy. lol

We all know of outlets that may be receptive. Today is April 18. What can we do to promote this between now and then?

Thank you ALL for this amazing, astonishing thing that is DU

B.

/oh cr@p, typing
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #139
141. Very generous of you, but you have been a driver of this effort, from...
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 09:08 PM by understandinglife
...the very beginning.

And, then there's DUer 'puebloknot' (see comment # 121) who truly inspired me with her insight that first we all need to 'relax' -- an elegant way to convey that we need to stop feeding the theocratic neocon beast and reflect on who we are and how we are going to sustain each other as we find every creative way possible to starve the beast until it collapses.

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on what its like for every citizen to own MNA)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:13 PM
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142. It doesn' t matter. We're here
Edited on Mon Apr-18-05 09:22 PM by sfexpat2000
and we can meet this challenge.

Everything we need to do is in our back pocket.

:thumbsup:

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 09:28 PM
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143. kick
:kick:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 10:54 PM
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145. Need some wood?

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:08 AM
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149. lol! n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 10:59 PM
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146. Let us all reflect on Ms Marla Ruzicka on MNA Day.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1404110

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (yes, we do have what it takes to starve the theocratic neoconster beast and save humanity from its rapacious evil)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:06 AM
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147. kick
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:07 AM
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148. from The Lessons of War
1. Naming of Parts

Today we have naming of parts. Yesterday,
We had daily cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing. But today,
Today we have naming of parts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighboring gardens,
And today we have the naming of parts.

This is the lower sling swivel. And this
Is the upper sling swivel, whose use you will see,
When you are given your slings. And this is the piling swivel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the garden their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.

This is the safety-catch, which is always released
With an easy flick of the thumb. And please do not let me
See anyone using his finger. You can do it quite easy
If you have any strength in your thumb. The blossoms
Are fragile and motionless, never letting anyone see
Anyone using their finger.

And this you can see is the bolt. The purpose of this
Is to open the breech, as you see. We can slide it
Rapidly backwards and forwards: we call this
Easing the spring. And rapidly backwards and forewards
The early bees are assaulting and fumbling the flowers:
They call it easing the Spring.

They call it easing the Spring: it is perfectly easy
If you have any strength in your thumb: like the bolt
And the breech, and the cocking piece, and the point of balance,
Which in our case we have not got; and the almond blossom
Silent in all of the gardens and the bees going backwards and forwards
For today we have the naming of parts.

Henry Reed
1946

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Reed
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:33 AM
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150. For the StreetSheet May 2005
George W. Bush, the 2000 Education President who morphed into the 2003 War President, is spending millions of tax dollars to teach sex education in schools, or actually, he’s spending millions of dollars not to teach sex education or as our Fundy brothers call it, “abstinence”. Telling teenagers not to have sex will work as well as telling them not to do drugs. Just Say No was such a huge success, let’s do it AGAIN. They teach kids that condoms don’t work, that you can get AIDs from tears and sweat, and that abortions lead to suicide. Let’s review.

Condoms work 96% of the time and prevents STDs. But, we’re paying the Federal government to keep them away from TEENAGERS. They are now inventing a Rubik’s condom so the kids won’t be able to figure out how to use them. They want to scare them with AIDs, just like they scare us with Terror. I heard on the news recently that you can get AIDs from a mosquito. If you’re having sex with mosquitoes, AIDs isn’t your biggest problem. (Isn’t that a good reason to keep teaching evolution in schools, so these kids will learn who they’re supposed to mate with? No wonder these kids stay on the internet all day. They’re scared to go outside and die from a bug bite.)

They can't tell kids not to have sex. The boys all walk around with their pants down already, and l3 year old girls are dressing like hookers. Poofed up hair, tropical fish makeup, high-heeled shoes, ankle bracelets, half a shirt, and super low cut jeans that show almost everything. They’re all half naked before they even go anywhere. The style screams “Amber Alert”. They have tattoos on their butts and pierced belly buttons. And this is the generation George Bush wants to teach abstention? Well, being president is “hard work”.

Teenage kids are taking vows of chastity before marriage, but they aren’t counting oral or anal sex, so there’s an epidemic of that. The kids, of course, are so happy they’re not saying anything. Would you? Oprah had a show about lipstick parties where all the boys get oral sex from the girls wearing different shades of lipstsick. Where was this stuff when I was in high school?

I’m surprised kids have time for sex with all the time they spend playing video games. They never leave their room. And they say video games cause violence. If one of these boys was to go outside, and someone were to try to pick a fight with him, he wouldn’t know what to do. He’d just stand there with his controller, pushing buttons, saying “It’s not working!” A first date could only get worse. . . .

It’s not like kids aren’t exposed to sex daily with rap videos. I don’t understand rap, but I respect it, because it’s the music of the younger generation. Twenty years from now a married couple will be sitting on their front porch swing, and the wife will say, “Listen, honey, they’re playing our song!” ‘BACK THAT ASS UP! BACK THAT ASS UP!” “Oh, that’s so beautiful. They played that at our wedding…”


What IS it with these people, they just won’t stay out of our private lives. They’re supposed to be REPUBLICANS, for pete’s sake, the party of watchingdogging the Feds. These guys aren’t Republicans, they’re Replicants in drag. They want to make abortions illegal again – maybe because those rates have gone up under Bush. Like the bumper sticker says, U.S. OUT OF MY UTERUS. I thought women had choice in this country. Why don’t they take away their vote, too? Fertile women might make a decision the Administration doesn’t like and then OUR HEADS WOULD EXPLODE. Pharmacists are refusing to fill prescriptions for birth control pills because it’s against their religious beliefs. Hey, just do your job. WALMART, OUT OF MY MOUTH. When corporations can give birth, then we’ll take a show of hands.

You can’t tell people not to have sex. It’s the stuff of poetry, the survival of the species. It’s in our DNA. I saw it on the Discovery Channel. Male fetuses before they’re born have ten to fifteen pre-natal erections. And all these years you women have been saying, “I feel him kicking!”

They want to make this a Puritan country again. We still have anti-sex laws on the books. In 14 states you can’t have “sodomy”, which includes oral sex. What states? They should give us a color-coded map from Triple A, in case we’re making travel plans? “See this, honey? Georgia? The frowning face and the red line through it? We’re going around.,..”

I wonder if parents are teaching their kids anything about sex. My parents never said a word about it. They gave me a 1929 book called “Growing Up” with a little dot on a page that said “This is how big you were when you were conceived.” That really helped me a lot. I avoided all little dots -- well into adulthood. Okay, I had a dot issue.

Pushing abstinence on our Amber Alert kids makes about as much sense as saying, “Mission Accomplished” off the coast of San Diego while Baghdad burns. (That anniversary is coming up on May 2, but who’s counting?) Neither program has a snowball’s chance of working: Mission not accomplished. Welcome to The War on Sex. Basically, we’re paying the government to screw up American sexuality for the foreseeable future.

So, next time you go to your pharmacist, look ‘em right in the face and ask, “Why do you hate America?”

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
www.dougzilla.com

Doug & Beth Ferrari


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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:51 AM
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151. Great column!
:applause:

You did get MNA in there, now that is writing. :thumbsup:

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:55 PM
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152. kick
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:48 PM
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153. Serenity



Pagan Serenity Prayer

God & Goddess grant me:
The power of water, to accept with ease & grace what I cannot change
The power of fire, for the energy & courage to change the things I can.
The power of Air, for the ability to know the difference.
And the power of Earth, for the strength to continue my path.




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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 06:09 PM
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156. Kick!
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:47 AM
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160. Oh thanks for the Pagan one Merh!! So very empathetic!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:57 AM
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161. LOL - the quest for peace and stability is a common quest
LOL - the quest for peace and stability is a common quest and the barriers of religion or ideologies should not hinder our efforts. We share common goals, common dreams, common fears. We want peace and we want our nation back. We want the violence to stop. We want the abuse and the killing in our names to cease.

Let us call upon all the positive energies of this planet, all spiritual forces, all divine interventions to unite to oppose this administration and their evil ways.

:hi:



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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:26 AM
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163. We'll take them groovy atheists as well...
The last thing most of them want to do is waste precious time in violent struggles that thwart our one and only shot at life...

Im not there but I understand exactly were they come from!! lol.

Common causes have no higher calling than peace and healing.

Lotsa love to ya Merh!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:54 AM
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164. We'll take everyone who wants to help!
:rofl: atheists, agnostics, you name 'em we want 'em if they want to see the madness stop and the evil come to an end!

Peace, blessings and love to you frictionless0!

Thanks for your support :hug:

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 03:35 PM
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166. kick
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 04:42 PM
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154. kick!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 05:10 PM
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155. "If we are to reach real peace in this world, ....
....we shall have to begin with the children." --Gandhi


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to talk to all the children)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:48 PM
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157. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 11:29 PM
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158. Aid worker uncovered America's secret tally of Iraqi civilian deaths
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1406877&mesg_id=1406877&page=


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on all the horrid lies told by Bu$h and his theocratic neoconster buddies and all the people they have killed to stop the truth from being told)
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 09:56 AM
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159. MNA May 2 2005: what will you be doing?
www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:20 AM
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162. Just letting you all know that I sent the Douglas Adams bit onto
Majority Report with a link back here (with appropriate mentioning of the threads' cause).

I hope Sam does the bit even if he doesn't mention MNA, though that is the bigger hope.

Thanks again UL, SFexpat, Merh, and Dzika.. all of you involved with this and the various other projects we have worked together on, you bring me a constant kind of hope and I need that ever so badly.

Peace!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:58 AM
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165. Thank you for all you are doing and for your kind words, fric; much...
....appreciated.

Peace,
UL

www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on how many have died because of Bu$h's lies)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:41 PM
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173. If Sam comes up with a refinement of the plan, please let me know!
Edited on Fri Apr-22-05 05:42 PM by sfexpat2000

Don't Panic!

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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 05:27 PM
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167. .
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 06:39 PM
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168. "A Time for Disobedience"
"A Time for Disobedience"
by Sydney H. Schanberg
April 19th, 2005 10:24 AM


The press is now looking squarely at a perversion of government. The administration of George W. Bush has raised secrecy and information control to a level never before seen in Washington.

The falsehoods about weapons of mass destruction that gave the White House the public support to wage war in Iraq may be the most vivid example of the perversion, but the practice permeates all corners of the Bush government.

The press has been grappling with how to cope with this extreme control and distortion of news, some reporters and editors more than others. One possibility they might consider is civil resistance, as in quiet, nonviolent, respectful rebellion.

(more at link: http://villagevoice.com/news/0516,schanberg,63150,6.html)


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to stop, reflect and prepare for what we all must do to stop the evil)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:38 AM
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169. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:46 AM
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170. The day we begin; The first of many....MNA May 2 2005
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (The.Day.We.BEGIN...........)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:48 PM
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171. kick
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 12:37 AM
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178. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 02:11 PM
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172. Kerry: "...where we're headed and what kind of nation we want to become."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1737203


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day to reflect on precisely that, Mr. Kerry)
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 05:43 PM
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174. kick
for the good !:applause:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:02 PM
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175. A thought about integrity and calm from Wallace Stevens
and I post it because it's precisely the kind of meditation that the BFEE has tried to interdict: our ability to access the privacy of our own minds.

The House Was Quiet and The World Was Calm

The house was quiet and the world was calm.
The reader became the book; and the summer night

Was like the conscious being of the book.
The house was quiet and the world was calm.

The words were spoken as if there was no book.
Except that the reader leaned above the page.

Wanted to lean, wanted much most to be
The scholar to whom his book is true, to whom

The summer night is like a perfection of thought,
The house was quiet because it had to be.

The quiet was part of the meaning, part of the mind:
The access of perfection to the page.

And the world was calm. Truth in a calm world,
In which there is no other meaning, itself

Is calm, itself is summer and night, itself
Is the reader leaning late and reading there.

1947
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:14 PM
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176. For our children, who deserve better from this administration
from us all:

The Magician Suspends the Children

With this charm I keep the boy at six
and the girl fast at five
almost safe behind the four
walls of family. We three
are a feathery totem I tattoo
against time: I'll be one

again. Joy here is hard-won
but possible. Protector of six
found toads, son, you feel too
much, my Halloween mouse. Your five
finger exercises predict no three
quarter time gliding for

you. Symphonic storms are the fore-
cast, nothing unruffled for my wun-
derkind. Have two children: make three
journeys upstream. Son, at six
you run into angles where five
lets you curve, let me hold onto

your fingers in drugstores. Too
intent on them, you're before
or behind me five
paces at least. Let no one
tie the sturdy boat of your six
years to me the grotesque, the three

headed mother. More than three
times you'll deny me. And my cockatoo,
my crested girl, how you cry to be six.
Age gathers on your fore-
head with that striving. Everyone
draws your lines and five

breaks out like a rash, five
crouches, pariah of the three
o'clock male rendezvous. Oh won-
derful girl, my impromptu
rainbow, believe it: you'll be four-
teen before you're six.

This is the one abracadabra I know to
keep us three. keep you five and six.
Grow now. Sing. Fly. Do what you're here for.

Carole Oles
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:09 PM
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177. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 01:24 PM
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179. "Bush Lies, America Cries"
Bush Lies, America Cries

By Mark Morford

<snip>

"They trim. They edit. They censor. BushCo kills what they do not like and fudges negative data where they see fit and completely rewrites whatever the hell they want, and that includes bogus WMD reports and CIA investigations and dire environmental studies and scientific proofs about everything from evolution to abortion and pollution and clean air, right along with miserable unemployment data and all manner of research pointing up the ill health of the nation, the spirit, the world."

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/



www.missionnotaccomplished.us (The.Day.WE.BEGIN........)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 06:08 PM
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180. Freedom
Edited on Sat Apr-23-05 06:10 PM by merh

And an orator said, "Speak to us of Freedom."

And he answered:

At the city gate and by your fireside I have seen you prostrate yourself and worship your own freedom,

Even as slaves humble themselves before a tyrant and praise him though he slays them.

Ay, in the grove of the temple and in the shadow of the citadel I have seen the freest among you wear their freedom as a yoke and a handcuff.

And my heart bled within me; for you can only be free when even the desire of seeking freedom becomes a harness to you, and when you cease to speak of freedom as a goal and a fulfillment.

You shall be free indeed when your days are not without a care nor your nights without a want and a grief,

But rather when these things girdle your life and yet you rise above them naked and unbound.

And how shall you rise beyond your days and nights unless you break the chains which you at the dawn of your understanding have fastened around your noon hour?

In truth that which you call freedom is the strongest of these chains, though its links glitter in the sun and dazzle the eyes.

And what is it but fragments of your own self you would discard that you may become free?

If it is an unjust law you would abolish, that law was written with your own hand upon your own forehead.

You cannot erase it by burning your law books nor by washing the foreheads of your judges, though you pour the sea upon them.

And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.

For how can a tyrant rule the free and the proud, but for a tyranny in their own freedom and a shame in their won pride?

And if it is a care you would cast off, that care has been chosen by you rather than imposed upon you.

And if it is a fear you would dispel, the seat of that fear is in your heart and not in the hand of the feared.

Verily all things move within your being in constant half embrace, the desired and the dreaded, the repugnant and the cherished, the pursued and that which you would escape.

These things move within you as lights and shadows in pairs that cling.

And when the shadow fades and is no more, the light that lingers becomes a shadow to another light.

And thus your freedom when it loses its fetters becomes itself the fetter of a greater freedom.


The Prophet by Kahlih Gabran (1923)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 08:10 PM
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181. kick
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:03 PM
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182. The people must stop the destruction of Earth
Our country is now geared to an arms economy bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and an incessant propaganda of fear.

– General Douglas MacArthur
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-05 10:53 PM
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183. pResident Bush is a MISERABLE FAILURE!
Word!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:47 AM
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184. kick
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:20 PM
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185. kick
:kick:

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:20 PM
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186. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:22 PM
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187. Thank you merh!! (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (The.Day.WE.BEGIN.............)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 02:23 PM
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188. Any time!
:hi:

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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:30 PM
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189. '40'
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:38 PM
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190. kick until Lassie finds Skinner. lol n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:49 PM
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191. LOL
Skinner, please come home!

:kick:

:hi: Hi ya sfexpat!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 07:54 PM
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192. Hiya, merh. I feel so abandoned.
:hi:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:01 PM
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193. Abandoned, abandoned?
By Skinner or by others?

If by Skinner, he has been on the board, lurking and posting (I saw his post on a thread this morning about a DUer that had passed away in Nov).

I think he is just trying to let pope-a-poluza (sp?) and the other religion/hate relgion threads run their course.

:pals: You are never alone -- too many who post in this thread (me included) respect your opinions and talents and look forward to your humor. :hug:

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:08 PM
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194. Oh, boy, thank you. Ditto. I do hope the Lads are chilling and
miss them. That's all.

And I still want Elad's shirt!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:42 PM
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195. I like that t-shirt you made
something about voting for facists

:rofl:

Kick because May 2 is right around the corner.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 08:51 PM
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196. You elected Bush

Enjoy your Fascist Regime!

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 09:30 PM
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197. That's the one!
:kick:

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:49 AM
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201. kick
:kick:
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 02:13 PM
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208. kick
you are not alone
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:25 PM
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198. Check out the Op.
We can do this, will do it.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 11:58 PM
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199. "He told the mourners: "Marla demonstrated that an INDIVIDUAL can make ...
......a profound difference in this world. Her life was dedicated to innocent victims of conflict, exactly what she ended up being."

The Agony of War
By BOB HERBERT

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/25/opinion/25herbert.html?hp



www.missionnotaccomplished.us (a day for each person to make a profound difference; the first of many)

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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:46 AM
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200. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:16 PM
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202. Will Pitt's new PDAmerica blog -- support for MNA May 2 2005!!
http://blog.pdamerica.org/


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us (The.Day.WE.BEGIN...........)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:24 PM
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203. Way to go Mr. Pitt.
:kick:

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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:53 PM
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204. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 07:15 PM
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205. My email to Senator Kerry: MissionNOTAccomplished Day May 2 2005
Dear Senator Kerry,

You are going to be in Seattle on Monday, May 2 2005. How about if my wife and I meet you at your hotel and we walk to the VA and visit with the patients and staff.

Here's why:

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you,
xxxxxxx
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:03 PM
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207. It's coming up
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:30 PM
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209. Falluja-Guernica
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 10:31 PM by chlamor
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 10:56 PM
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210. 'the people of Iraq are free'
Combat forces of the United States, Great Britain, Australia, Poland, and other countries enforced the demands of the United Nations, ended the rule of Saddam Hussein - and the people of Iraq are free.
George W. Bush







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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:03 AM
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211. Prepare, everyone. May 2 2005 is MNA Day 1. Prepare everyone...
....for what happens after May 2 2005. Details soon.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (The.Day.WE.THE.PEOPLE.BEGIN.....)
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chlamor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 09:12 AM
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212. kick
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