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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:03 AM
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Pope thinks molestation problem is due to "media vendetta"
http://www.cathnews.com/news/212/27.php

He said: "I am personally convinced that the constant presence in the press of the sins of Catholic priests, especially in the United States, is a planned campaign, as the percentage of these offences among priests is not higher than in other categories, and perhaps it is even lower."

"In the United States, there is constant news on this topic,
but less than 1% of priests are guilty of acts of this type," he said. "The constant presence of these news items does not correspond to the objectivity of the information nor to the statistical objectivity of the facts.

"Therefore, one comes to the conclusion that it is intentional, manipulated, that there is a desire to discredit the Church. It is a logical and well-founded conclusion."



Oh. My. God. I've not joined in with this "Pope" stuff much because I frankly do not care all that much about it, but is this guy a MORON as well as a neanderthal?

So 1% is supposed to be good? 1 in every hundred priests is molesting, and that's a good track record?


ARRRGGGH!


It should be one in 10,000, or 100,000. These are priests, the people the community are supposed to be able to turn to and trust!

That statement alone tells me this Pope is worthless.

I'm so glad to be atheist today.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:05 AM
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1. Stop that man! He stole Delay's play book!
:scared:

Too scary for words. Well, makes me too angry for words, too. :grr:
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:09 AM
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2. Yeah, it is a media problem
it's a problem that the media found out about it and they can't do anything to hide it because the church isn't all powerful or imcapable of mistakes. Whoops, there goes the infalability.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:14 AM
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3. Tell that to the hundreds, maybe thousands of young boys...
who will have to deal with their abuse for the rest of their lives.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:51 AM
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9. He Is Telling Them To Shut Up About It All
and teach their kids to suck it up and say "thank you" after the priest is through buggering them.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:20 AM
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4. why does everyone blame the media when their dirty little secrets come out
why doesn't he lay the blame at the feet of the molestors where it belongs?????

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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:22 AM
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6. He was too busy...
...having one of the "cardinals" who presided over the cover-up play a prominent role in sending off JPII.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:21 AM
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5. Nixon thought the media had it in for him
seems to be a common trait of corrupt leaders - although I think Reagan and Bush make Nixon look like a Boy Scout in comparison.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:29 AM
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7. This is just so awful!!
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 12:30 AM by TwoSparkles
How can they elect a Pope who has these views?????

The last thing he should be thinking about is the media's role in this. Yes, the media magnifies stories that involve crimes. Yes, they sensationalize violence and sexual abuse. But....so what!

What the media is doing is MOOT!

The focus should be on the PROBLEM, the VICTIMS OF THESE CRIMES and PREVENTING ADDITIONAL SEXUAL ABUSE. What is the point of laying blame on the media...to create a red herring? To position the Catholic Church as the victim?

This is so horrendously wrong!!!!

What is wrong with the Catholic Church that they will not address this!!

And by the way, the entire problem isn't only with the priests who molested, IT'S WITH THE BISHOPS AND OTHER PRIESTS WHO CHOSE TO PROTECT SERIAL PEDOPHILE PRIESTS AT THE EXPENSE OF THESE TRAUMATIZED CHILDREN! Bishops and Cardinals KNEW that priests were sexually abusing children and they transferred these child rapists to new, unsuspecting communities where they were free to rape more children.

It's not just a few priests, as Ratzinger suggests--this is a systemic problem in the Catholic Church.

I really don't understand this, at all. It defies logic, common decency, morality and the teachings of Jesus Christ.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:35 AM
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8. You're right on the mark, TwoSparkles.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 12:37 AM by BuyingThyme
It's not only the people who physically attacked the children, it's also the people who enabled them to attack the children.

This is the modern-day legacy of the Vatican.

Edit: (Ratzinger is the head enabler.)
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CentralEuropeanDude Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:51 AM
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10. what exactly means "less than 1%"
this statement isn't of much value.
is it one of 100, 1000, 10000 or what?
are there any independent numbers?
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:18 AM
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11. Geez...these are supposed to be men of god.....not child molesters
he must have forgotten that part...he already reminds me of a person squatting in DC.

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CentralEuropeanDude Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:41 AM
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14. yes, you are right! no excuse for child molesters.
but i will not go into an emotional state of emergency for a meaningless statement like "less than 1%".

by the way, who is that person from DC. you know, i'm from across the pond.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:50 AM
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15. The poster is referring
to our glorious leader, who is squatting in John Kerry's White House, I believe. Cheers.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:36 AM
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13. German Jews were about 1% of population in the late 1930s
so their lives were as statistically insignificant as the number of pedophile priests, so using Ratzinger's logic one can deny the Holocaust and pedophile priesthood at the same time.
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CentralEuropeanDude Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:58 AM
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16. but what is "less than 1%" n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:32 AM
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12. What an attitude! Instead of trying to better humanity against the
wolf in sheep clothing. The pope condemns the media.

This does not sound like the words of a Holy Man that loves his flock.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:04 AM
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18. His flock.
Maybe there is a reason that they are called the flock?

The Catholic Church is nothing more than a RW Corp. fleecing the flock and abusing the little sheep.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:58 AM
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21. The teachings of Jesus Christ is put on the back burner until salvation
becomes the issue .......

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 07:01 AM
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17. Aww. how does the widdle papal baby feel, now being treated like us?
More heteros than homos are child molesters and we homos get ALL the blame for that. x(

I could go on for ages.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:03 AM
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19. Giovanni Thinks Molestation Problem is Due to "Child Molesters"
But that's just me.

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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:07 AM
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20. Sounds exactly like someone who would participate in a cover-up
of those crimes. NOT what we need in a leadership position... :eyes:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:19 PM
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22. Oh..okay
I'm sure the victims will be relived to hear that it really isn't a big deal.
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