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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:58 AM
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Why is Bush nominating Bolton?
I think there are two possibilities. I made another post about this from when I heard someone talking about this on Jerry Springer's show. Someone called in and said a reason why Bush is nominating Bolton is because of his judges. They KNOW Bolton is an arrogant ass and are using this to show that the democrats don't like anybody they're nominating and are biased and they can use that against the democrats when they go against Bush's judges and it'd be a swift victory for them. Another reasoning is the Bush administration has gotten so arrogant they don't give a damn and are high on power and knew this would be easy since they control the government now and Bolton is a member of the PNAC group. I think, if he does make it through (it's up in the air now but someone will probably bribe or threaten anybody who is thinking of not voting him in who's republican), his job will be to destroy the UN so Bush and camp can get away with other stuff before 2006. So what do you think? Do you think it's to make the democrats look bad for judges or just Bush high on power?
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:00 PM
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1. Or, a third possibility (related to the others)
is that they are purposely putting up a contentious candidate, a la Kerik, and when he is rejected, as they know he must be, they'll slide in somebody equally bad but who seems more palatable.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:01 PM
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2. He looks like Mark Twain? n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:04 PM
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4. I am sure Mark Twain would be insulted
Compared to a politician.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:03 PM
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3. It's just a continuing pattern
Of getting the worst person for every job.

Which, if you think about it, makes sense.

The worst "president" should pick the worst people.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:04 PM
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5. People busy with Government Jobs can't write books
Wolfowtiz...working
Rumsfield...working
Rice..working
Bolton...working

At some point, one of these Neocons will realize how much money they can make with a tell-all book on the inner working of the Bush Administration.

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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:06 PM
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6. Oh, Give Dubya The Benefit Of The Doubt
Maybe he really thinks Bolton is a good candidate. Most Republicans agree with him. They want some one who isn't going to take any crap from the UN.

Their Stance: You know, that darn UN just doesn't realize that we are the world's only military superpower and we should get our way. What the U.S. says goes and if they don't like it, we've got the bombs to make them like it. Diplomacy, bah - humbug who needs diplomacy when you have weapons of mass destruction?

In their world view, Bolton is a perfectly qualified and appropriate candidate.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:08 PM
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7. Right
In their mind. But these people are corrupt and just disgusting. The UN was right about Iraq and that's why they have to get rid of them. That's what I think Bolton's job is.
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:10 PM
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9. You are exactly right
And I am a bit surprised that isn't obvious to everyone else.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:36 PM
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20. Yep.
Bolton has demonstrated his loyalty to the corrupt administration by effectively manipulating Intel & punishing any subordinates who would dare to expose the truth. The BFEE has more dirty work to do in the ME, and they need their corrupted official in the U.N. to assist in their endeavors.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:09 PM
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8. Yes, his mission is to destroy the UN, and he's a perfect candidate for it
That's why * says he'll "do a good job" -- the job being to destroy the UN.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:18 PM
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11. Yes we have a winner. In neocon speak REFORM=DESTROY
look at all the things Bush has reformed and you'll see smoking rubble. :nuke:
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:16 PM
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10. Iran in June?
Another thought expressed here and there is that the Sharon/Bush team wanted to get a bully in very quickly to
lay the groundwork in the UN for whatever veto or (?) would clear the way for a June adventure. Seems to jibe with Lugar's hurry-up attempt. All praise to Voinovich, a Repub with a brain and a conscience. And didn't the Dems kick ass!
Dodds and Biden especially, but Sarbanes and Kerry also.
Hooray (this time) for Senate Dems. Hope is on the way!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:32 PM
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17. That's true
Very true. Bolton obviously isn't afraid of anybody and thinks everything is right. That's why Bush wants this guy so they can go into Iran and have everything go according to plan. Since Bolton is apart of the PNAC group.
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:19 PM
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12. how do they know Bolton's an arrogant ass?
Bolton is a kiss up, kick down guy. No reason to think Bush knew what an asshole Bolton is, just as he probably didn't know what a crooked cop Kerik was. Loyalty to the royalty is the only thing Bush cares about.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:34 PM
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18. I'm sure they know
They can have people find these things out. They know he's a "yes" person and he'll do the job they want him to do so they can get their war before 2006.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:25 PM
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13. To destroy the UN
Simple as that. Also, Condi may want him and his nutso personality out of her flippety hair at State. Parking him at the UN gets that done with a side benefit of utterly and forever disimissing the UN as something we should take seriously.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:58 PM
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24. the Christian Reconstructionist (Dominionist) Tear down
social institutions so they can rebuild them in their image. bolton is the perfect person for the job.

They did it with the Republican party, want to do it with Soc Security, and the courts.
Iraq was a proof of concept.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:30 PM
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14. Bush Is An Asshole, He Surrounds Himself By Fellow Assholes
loyal assholes.
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:31 PM
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15. write to stop this
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aprillcm Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:31 PM
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16. To Destroy the UN, Because He is on a power trip!
The US is no longer a part of the world community! We are the bullies on the block the ones so hungry on power that we are willing to destroy ourselves to keep it. I am not speaking of us when I say we I am speaking of the royal we. Bush Republicans care very little about anyone but themselves.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:35 PM
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19. Exactly
So that's my guess about Bolton. And if, for some reason, he doesn't get through they can still probably use this against the democrats. So it could be a win-win.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:38 PM
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21. He is dangerously unqualified and its the most ironic
That seems to be Bush's main two criteria for appointing people:

Pick someone with low or no special qualifications, or go with someone who is working to destroy it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:40 PM
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22. Yep
His whole policies are backwards. :crazy:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:47 PM
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23. Good question. IMO, even more frightening is John "the Butcher"
Negroponte being chosen for Head of US Intelligence.

Centralized Intelligence Agencies headed by notorious anti-humanitarian individuals in the past:

The Gestapo and SS: Goering

The KGB: Beria
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:26 PM
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25. Bush and Bolton Have Similar Personalities
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 01:29 PM by Double T
Both Abuse Their Positions To Bully And Kick Others Butts.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:38 PM
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26. Scott Ritter had a thought on Randi Rhodes show
I believe it was last week. His sources tell him that Bolton is very much the planner for the coming conflict with Iran, similar to Wolfowitcz's role with the Iraq war. He tied in Negroponte being named as director of national intelligence.

Negroponte cooks the intel for which Condi will be a more willing liar than Powell was, meanwhile Bolton browbeats the UN demanding action in a very public way.
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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 02:38 PM
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27. understanding bushco
Until recently, I used to spend a lot of time wondering what whent on in ****'s head.To understand bushco ,you have to understand two things:This *administration operates on big gambles ,and the *president is intelectually challenged. The tax breaks were a big gamble; The invasion of Iraq was a big gamble. Now, like addicts, they are preparing for the next big gamble,the military move against Iran with each one bringing them further into trouble. Bolton is being pushed for the UN job because he is part of the next gamble and **** doesn't have the intelectual capacity to understand what a lunatic he is. This intelectual thing is the same reason **** is still pushing his SS after the poeple have clearly rejected it.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 02:42 PM
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28. You are absolutely right.n/t
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:05 PM
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29. Why not? The Senate Dems didn't even vote a united "No" to
Torture Gonzalez, Death Squad Negroponte, or any of his other war-criminal nominees. Why should they think a vicious temper and an avowed committment to destroying the Institution to which he is nominated will give them pause over Bolton?
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