Looking for a Bush-Ratzinger money connection? Here's your jackpot

[JackRiddler]

So, those of you trying to construct a direct Bush-Ratzinger relationship are about to have an orgasm.

Cardinal J. Ratzinger and Neil "Silverado" Bush -

- the former bank plunderer, now a well-known Thai sex-industry customer who owns the Ignite! junk-education mill (see article) -

- were among the founders of an "ecumenical research society" in Geneva in 1999 -

- which curiously "is listed by Dun & Bradstreet business credit reports as a management trust for purposes other than education, religion, charity or research." (The foundation head says this is a mistake.)

Do follow the link below: the four-paragraph rule forces me to snip out a lot of potentially interesting details.

Now let's see what the DU random researcher machine comes up with on Neil & Ratzinger, Neil's friend Daniel, and the other board members listed as founders of "The Foundation for Interreligious and Intercultural Research and Dialogue."

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-wochar214226829apr21,0,2092802,print.story

NEWSDAY, Thursday, April 21, 2005

THE NEW POPE BENEDICT XVI
Neil Bush, Ratzinger co-founders
President's younger brother served with then-cardinal on board of relatively unknown ecumenical foundation

BY KNUT ROYCE AND TOM BRUNE
WASHINGTON BUREAU

April 21, 2005

WASHINGTON -- (snip)

The charter members of the board were all well-known international religious figures, except for Bush and his close friend and business partner, Jamal Daniel, whose family has extensive holdings in the United States and Switzerland, public records show.

(snip)

Besides then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, founding board members included Rene-Samuel Sirat, the former chief rabbi of France; Jordan's Prince Hassan, a Muslim dedicated to religious dialogue; the late Prince Sadruddin Aga Khan, another prominent Muslim; Olivier Fatio, director of the Institute of the History of the Reformation; and foundation president Metropolitan Damaskinos, a Greek Orthodox leader.

Gary Vachicouras, a theologian and foundation official in Geneva, would not explain in a telephone interview yesterday why Bush, who has no clear public connection to religious causes, was on the first board.

(snip)

The foundation, based at the Orthodox Center of the Ecumenical Patriarchate in Geneva, is listed by Dun & Bradstreet business credit reports as a management trust for purposes other than education, religion, charity or research. But Vachicouras said the designation must be a mistake of translation to English because the foundation is a private nonprofit established under Swiss law. He said the foundation is being "relaunched" on its mission to publish the original text of the Bible's Old Testament in Hebrew, its New Testament in Greek and the Quran in Arabic.

(snip)

Copyright © 2005, Newsday, Inc.

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-wochar214226829apr21,0,2092802,print.story

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Ok I don't believe in the Illuminati, but things like this

make it hard to ignore

[cajones_II]

4. I agree

I always thought Illuminati was just a spook story, but the string of coincidence in this * administration has long since ceased to be coincidence, and seems to be general plan.

[AllegroRondo]

8. Funny how Daddy Bush was head of the CIA

when they investigated the existence of the Illuminati, and found 'no evidence'.

[stanwyck]

31. You know I wondered about the reference

to George Sr. in "Angels and Demons" and shrugged it off as fiction. George Sr. is described as a full-fledged Mason who used his influence to squash any intelligence regarding Illuminati.
Interesting.

[southerntransplant]

2. wait and see

I guess we'll have to wait and see if the new Pope is more supportive of Bush than John Paul II was in denoucing the Iraq war. JP II and Bush agreed on some issues but certainly not on that biggie.

[Bluebear]

3. This fucking family owns the planet.

Let's face facts.

[smirkymonkey]

16. Wow, I don't think I have ever heard it put so directly, but I think

you're right. Is there anything that can take them down?

[lonestarnot]

26. God will take the evil bastards down...just waiting.

[understandinglife]

5. LBN link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1411847


Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us (The.Day.WE.BEGIN..........)

[Ganja Ninja]

6. Switzerland + Religious Foundation = Tax Dodge & ...

Money Laundering. :think:

[Toots]

22. Probably drug money too

Who better handle the money than the future pope?

[lonestarnot]

27. Child sex rings in the mix too?

[Zenlitened]

7. We truly are living in Bizarro world.

That is just astonishing. :scared:

[scarletlib]

17. love your Carl Sagan picture

He was a hero of mine. A great mind, a great man. Wish he were here with us today in this sad, sad time of ignorance and evil.

[Zenlitened]

18. Wasn't he just the best? I've learned so much reading his books.

Wish he had lived to write a dozen more. :cry:

[gordianot]

9. Wow very interesting.

Excellent post. Here I go again breaking my oath to stay off Pope threads. I am storing this for future reference.


In a similar vein a Roman Catholic friend explained to me there were money laundering problems in the days of Pope John Paul I. Supposedly John Paul I was going to expose these connections then he died. Looking at church intrigues the last 1500 years the more things change the more they stay the same.

[JackRiddler]

10. Wow, imagine the world mega-scandal

Ratzinger and a Bush brother involved in a money laundering scheme!

Better yet, if it should connect to the Reagan assassination and the offing of JP1. Wow, what an orgasm that would be: rolling out all the Bush and Vatican scandals from the late 1970s forward!!!

A guy can dream, can't he?

[Bluebear]

11. The mind reels.

[gordianot]

12. There are lot's of links on this topic.

Honestly I never heard of this before, and for those who like to call out conspiracy buffs am not generally in that category. I don't know.

self deleted link

[NYC]

23. Michel Sindona committed suicide in 1986.

What year was the Reagan assassination attempt?

http://www.lepape.info/?Rpage=scandalesfinanciers.html

1974 - Affaire SINDONA

L'IOR "Banque du Vatican" a perdu en 1974, 250 millions de FF. Elle détenait 15% du capital de la Banca Unione (devenue Banco Privata Italiano). (Vatican Bank lost 250 million French Francs.)

Michel SINDONA, banquier sicilien, homme de confiance du Vatican, s'est "suicidé" en 1986. ïl est mort après avoir bu un café au cyanure, recette classique de la mafia. (Cyanide in coffee.)

[MADem]

14. Albino lasted a short 33 days, to be precise

Those problems preceded the smiling Pope. He indicated his intention to fix them, to open dialogue, to discuss the role of women in the church, and then, kaboom, he died.

[KamaAina]

20. Vatican was robe-deep in the BCCI scandal

remember that one? Who investigated that one? Um, it was John Kerry, right?

Whatever happened to him, anyway? Oh, right, he got slimed by the RW and their tools the MSM...

[Bluebear]

21. "Robe- deep!"

Excellent!

[Nothing Without Hope]

13. Some more info at Kos - and don't forget that Ratzinger is Opus Dei's man

The same main source for the Neil Bush/Ratzinger link, and there is some more info on the organizations involved.

The Kos diary link: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/21/153814/304#2

Ratzinger was Opus Dei's favored candidate, as reported by the LA Times on the morning before he was elected. It's a good article, well worth reading. Opus Dei is a very creepy organization, very rich and very dedicated to changing the world to be just like them - so they are deeply involved in world politics. There is no doubt that they are involved in American politics, and you can bet they are dead set against anything progressive.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-opus19apr19,0,5666317.story?coll=la-home-headlines
April 19, 2005

SELECTING A NEW POPE

Controversial Opus Dei Has Stake in Papal Vote
By Larry B. Stammer and Tracy Wilkinson, Times Staff Writers

(snip)

But recently, several Italian newspapers breathlessly reported that the two Opus Dei cardinals were throwing their support behind the candidacy of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, a German-born traditionalist who has served as chief enforcer of church doctrine for two decades.

(snip)

[bpilgrim]

15. this is a very old and tragic story of the roman church and politics

it always amazes me how many folks here refuse to believe it still exists, as it has for centuries, today and then have the NERVE to call other DU'ers FREEPERS when we raise suspicions and point to problems in ANY of our elites past. :crazy:

peace

[LatePeriduct]

19. The Opus-Dei Knights of Malta is far far worse...

Far far worse than some illuminati legend, and far more predictable. We uncovered everything about who they are some time ago.

This time the cult in charge of the network wants to instill the rapture, quite literally it sets up illegitimate elections, constitutions and many things in order to accomplish the goal.

[chalky]

24. On this tangent, I found this sentence very disturbing

He said the foundation is being "relaunched" on its mission to publish the original text of the Bible's Old Testament in Hebrew, its New Testament in Greek and the Quran in Arabic.

Why do I have this nasty suspicion that the "original text" is going to massage out of existence any reference to the separation of church and state, will say dissent is a sin, and will have Jesus really kicking the snot out of the poor and the ill? How do you say "greed is good" in ancient Greek?

[lonestarnot]

25. Oh mo info...thanks It's the bushitlers and the beast connection 666

[walldude]

28. Wow...

this deserves a nomination..

[arikara]

29. Interesting...

:kick:

[UTUSN]

30. Kick for Keeping It Alive. n/t

[Swamp Rat]

32. kick

[VOX]

33. Kicking this.