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TioDiego Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:19 PM
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Why I'm not voting for Clark
by Rush Limbaugh

The following were touched upon by Rush Limbaugh in the first ten minutes of his radio show today:
1) He's just a front for Hillary and Bill Clinton; Limbaugh referred to Clark as "Hillary's sock puppet."
2) He's an unstable hothead who "almost started World War III."
3) He was involved in the Waco disaster. In fact, Limbaugh went further and tried to blame the entire thing on Clark.

Me, I'm voting for the Democratic Nominee. And hoping that Nurse's rash is better.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:20 PM
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1. How did he almost start WWIII? Because one man said so..
in a fit of rage? You gotta be kidding me.
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #1
16. If Clark was involved in Waco
good.

Koresh was a child molester and a murderer of Federal agents, doing their job by serving him with an arrest warrant. Civil disobedience is one thing, but shooting someone to avoid arrest is off the reservation.

He was allowed more than a month to surrender. They went to get him and he incinerated his followers and himself. He was a kiddie diddler, a liar, a fake and a scumbag. He hid behind women and children.

As far as Koresh goes, they should dig him up and kill him again, as far as I'm concerned.

If I shot a Federal agent (or four Federal agents), I seriously doubt they'd give me a month to 'think' about surrendering.

I can't wait for Limbaugh and his moron fans to side with Koresh on this one.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #16
32. Waco was bungled
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 01:04 PM by HFishbine
So, to save the children from the "kiddy diddler," you approve of burning alive the diddler and the kids with him? Please.
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #16
40. What about Bill Clinton and Janet Reno?
Per the Right Wing:

First it was all Bill Clinton's fault. Next, Janet Reno was the the one responsible for the horrible outcome at Waco. Now it's Clark who did it? Funny how they never blame Vernon Howell (David Koresh was Vernon Howell's "rock-n-roll stage name" - he really wanted to be a rock star, and he came close - he raped underage girls, had a cult following, pissed off the authorities, and died young).

If any of the other Dem candidates gets the nomination, I'm sure they'll have been responsible for Waco, too.

mikey_the_rat
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
43. its interesting which conspiracy theories get believed
there is a lot of myth surrounding Waco.

Noone is a Koresh fan and it may be true that he abused children and women but its beyond doubt that the fire was the doing of the troops on the scene and there is audio evidence that Reno specifically ordered it.

But feel free to believe what you want.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #43
51. Audio of Janet Reno saying "burn 'em out"? No wonder Mcbride
got the nod in Florida. :eyes:
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #16
46. and he was manufacturing methamphetamines too!
or at least that's what they told us, but it turned out to be a lie.
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
45. I would think that getting fired lends some credibility to that
.
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CRYINGWOLFOWITZ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:22 PM
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2. BLAME BLAME BLAME
all military people are hotheads now. McCain was a hothead, Clark is a hothead, those soldiers who said Rumsfeld should resign where tratiors. idiots keep reciting from the RNC playbook.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #2
22. My definition of a hothed
BRING'EM ON
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:10 PM
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55. Hi CRYINGWOLFOWITZ!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
3. Speed thee back to Freeper land!!!
How dare you post Rush crap as fact!!!
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #3
52. Didja happen to read the last line?
It was a joke. Sarcasm. You run across that kind of stuff on DU sometimes. The point of the original post, I'm pretty sure, was "screw Limbaugh, I'll vote for Clark or whoever the nominee turns out to be."
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:23 PM
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4. funny
I thought right-wing blowhards always wanted to start WWIII. "Let's nuke the commies, har har har!" Turns out they were actually pacifists, I guess.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #4
13. Didn't they also argue for nuking Iraq and Mecca?
Bunch of dumbfucks. Nice stupid post, Diego.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:26 PM
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5. How about
4) Because I'm a blowhard Republican shill and Clark has me worried about our party's future.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:30 PM
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6. I see his point. I've been making it for a couple days.
The point isn't that all this Rush Limbaugh stuff is /true/, it's that Clark isn't untouchable just because he was a general, and he's going to have to campaign in this kind of environment, which is difficult for experienced candidates, much less someone who's never run for anything before.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:36 PM
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9. Untouchable?
I'm a Clark supporter, but I've never thought of him as "untouchable."

If you want to talk about his lack of experience in elected office, for example, hey, fair game.

What I take offense to is the deliberate distortions of his record - the Pristina Airport thing, Waco, etc.

That's just a smear campaign, and I find it extremely troublesome that alleged members of the Democratic party would so easily buy into transparent right wing smears.

That's poor form.


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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #9
18. It doesn't matter who buys into what...
True or not, there will be smears. They're not going to refrain from them just because he served in the military. The right-wing punditocracy /will/ smear him, as they will with any other Democratic candidate.

My point is, you have to have a candidate that can hold up under these attacks and can respond to them well. And someone who's never campaigned for anything ever before (I'm not talking about /holding/ an office, I'm talking about /running/ for an office) may not be able to do that well. This is someone who took a long time to decide whether or not he's even running.

It doesn't matter how mendacious or juvenile or unsubstantiated the attacks are, you /have/ to be able to respond to them. Or you'll have Dukakis all over again.

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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
25. True enough
These are the attacks we are going to see, I agree.

I just think it's a shame that they are being lobbed from "our" side of the fence, as evidenced by many threads in this forum.

As to whether or not the General will be able to handle such charges, time will tell.

But I have a feeling that he is, quite literally, battle-tested :)

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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:49 PM
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20. Of course not
Its a given that the Republicans will attack and smear him. I'm surprised they didn't start a month ago. they'll make up stuff, distort, lie whatever to try and shoot down a viable candidate.

This WWIII stuff is pure unadulterated BULLSHIT. What still amazes me is that they will thrown stuff like that around with absolutely no hint of shame or irony (not to mention the utter emptyness of the charge) in the light of the current Administrations reckless warmongering and destabilization of the Middle East.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #6
36. They intend
to take everyone of the Democrats down one by one...are you ready to stop them? Or do you want to help them?

And when only your candidate is left, do you think the followers, and you will need all of them, will be there to save you?

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:33 PM
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7. The Republicans hate him so he must be the right man!
He's brainy, against the Iraq war, and wants to be friends with the rest of the world...As a Canadian that is very heartening to me!
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:33 PM
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8. It looks like
Clark will be pigboys new Clinton.

:eyes:
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midnitemoleman Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:36 PM
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10. 2 points please
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 12:39 PM by midnitemoleman
1) Why would YOU be listening to Rush?
2) Why can't you make up your own mind?

Thats Americas problem, never thinking for themselves!

I think if you get your information from Rush, you will vote Bush! Or is that your plan now? Freepers lie like Rush, I don't kow you and I mean no disrespect, but this sounds like a freeper trying to mislead good Democrats!
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TioDiego Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #10
24. Midnitemoleman
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 12:56 PM by TioDiego
1)I read it in another post here on DU.
2) That is a loaded question. Or was it rhetorical? I can make up my own mind. I have decided to vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever it is.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:38 PM
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11. Why I'm "concerned" about Clark
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 12:43 PM by HereSince1628
1) He is DLC. DLC will say ANYTHING that is populist

2) He has never held an elected position

3) His career was in an institution that doesn't really allow questions to be raised about policy decisions.

While it isn't fair to paint Clark with guilt by association, I am really concerned about how open he is to changing his mind. BTW I have similar reservations about the "doctor" stereotype for Dean. Physicians live in an environment where they give orders rather than reconsider them.

4) He couldn't decide for ages whether or not he WAS a democrat. That seems like one of the most simple decisions for a person concerned with the welfare of American workers, but it seems like an example of the waffling typical of a person looking to brood their personal ambitions.

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. uh, scientists are trained to change their mind when
presented with new evidence contrary to the old beliefs.

All scientists know that there is no true scientific knowledge, there is only currently accepted theory that is backed up by the scientific method.

The only way progress happens is by questioning the currently accepted theories. New experiments show new "facts" and the theories change and progress ensues.

So this charge against Dean is groundless, and simply shows your own paranoia/fears about the man. You have absolutely no evidence for what you say.
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:05 PM
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33. Just like there's no evidence Clark is inflexible
Don't forget Clark's first West Point degree is engineering, so the scientific method isn't foreign to him.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:44 PM
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41. Clark as scientist? Well, belief is in part based on a willing acceptance
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 01:44 PM by HereSince1628
your willing, I am skeptical.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:16 PM
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37. Hey, I said it was a concern
I even said it was MY concern based on a sterotype. So I am watching to see if Dean can assuage my concern. If you know anything about popular culture you realize that stereotypes exist in part because they work. I recognize my concern is based on a generalization, and I want to be sure of its specific application. I didn't claim a person's behavior demonstrated specific evidence, I said I am concerned to resolve whether this persons behavior conforms to stereotypical (essentialized) behaviors of a class to which he claims membership.


I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to by bringing up science.

1) Although I am trained as a scientist, I recognize that choosing a place to put my vote is hardly something that can be done solely by the use of the scientific method. The very act of framing questions about candidates is something that defies a coherent system of conceptualization about the empirical universe.


2) Moreover, expressing concern, i.e. areas of weakness in an idea is typical of scientific and other scholarly pursuit. Naming a concept, and stating it as a question are the first steps in discovering information to resolve the question. Although falsification is a debatable Popperian standard for a scientific validity, you really can't test the veracity of an idea with empirical data, logic, or personal insights until you name it. I stated my concern plainly enough. I think that it can be tested in specific detail.

3) Finally, you really should read Thomas Kuhn. REAL progress in science, seems to have nothing to do with the routine application of science which tends to verify and refine concepts rather than develop new ones. Rather than being logical, progress seems to depend on irrational and circumstantial elements that facilitate the ascendance of an idea through a process that looks orderly in retrospect but defies predictability (and predictability is typically held as a standard for the "scientific" veracity of conceptual models about the empirical realm...consequently, the act of recognizing discovery, the single act upon which scientific progress is based, seems, alas, not really very scientific!)


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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #11
27. You know what you get when you elect leaders who are
empty vessels, unable to take charge and make decisions? You get Bush thats what you get. Everyone knows it's Rowe, the prince of darkness (Perle) and all the Gods of neo-con world pulling his puppet strings. Those not born to lead follow, like Bush. Does that mean a good leader never listens to others? Of course not. Do you think Clark got where he is in the world by never listening to constructive critizism, input and lessons from others? Of course not.

It seems to me if a Physician (let alone a four star general) is too much of an authority/leadership figure for one to be comfortable with as a President one will end up with a spineless bimbo. We just got done with that and it didn't work out so good. Trust me, a left leaning bimbo would be just as deadly for the Democratic party as the right leaning bimbo has been to the world. We cannot lose the ground we are making, or the light at the end of the tunnel.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:49 PM
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42. as a concerned citizen, the association with Jackson Stephens
gives me pause to reflect ... oh, there'll be the guilt through association rebuttal - but, that's rather superficial; plus, it's been like that for at least a year here -- but Jackson Stephens just doesn't let anybody to be within his group ... it's not like Wesley applied for the job from an advert in the jobs listing of the local Arkansas newspaper ...

of course, Wesley 'cut' that tie as of about February 2003

... and, then, there is being on the Board of Directors of Acxiom, with a Board of Directors with links to the military, Henry Kissinger and other interesting arenas ...and, likely links to Homeland Security and Poindexter's DARPA IAO

frankly, I don't care whatever those who will likely take exception to these concerns - but, we have right to them and others should have the information available to make of it what they will ... and, certainly outside of DU, others have had concerns about Jackson Stephens, his role in this world of ours, and Acxiom ... and, the people associated with them ...

Acxiom has information on at least 180 million of us

... who would associate in that world? Would you?

I've had relatives in politics ... and, shamefully, who had connections to the good ol'boys ... I wasn't part of that world ...

No, we as a Nation, a People, have lost much opportunity to progress as a Society over the last 30 years -- too much is at stake ...

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"Why Quit, Henry? Is It Acxiom?"

In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. Permission is granted to reproduce this article in its entirety

by Jim Rarey

When Dr. K (Kissinger) withdrew as co-chairman of the commission to investigate the 9/11 terrorist attacks after refusing to make his client list public, he bitterly asserted his consulting business represented no foreign companies or governments that would constitute a conflict of interest with his duties on the commission.

Although there is no particular reason we should believe anything Kissinger says, for purposes of this article, let’s take that assertion at face value. That would mean if there is a conflict, it must be with one or more of his domestic (U.S.) clients.

Kissinger’s two consulting firms (Kissinger & Associates and Kissinger-McLarty & Associates) advise a large number of U.S. companies. Yes, it is that McLarty, Mack McLarty who was Bill Clinton’s chief of staff and is now vice-chairman of the first firm and partner in the second.

The client lists of the two firms are closely guarded. However, from time to time some information leaks out. Although Dr. K has his own share of skeletons in his closet, (e.g. his involvement in the overthrow of an elected government in Chile and the resulting thousands of deaths that have branded both Kissinger and Pinochet as war criminals), some of his domestic clients have their own scandals with which he may not want to be associated.

One that is, or has been, a Kissinger client is J.P. Morgan Chase, implicated in the Enron frauds as well as money laundering along with other New York investment banks. (But that’s only drug money and U.S. taxpayers’ dollars recycled through the Russian KGB/Mafia, not known to relate to terrorism.) Kissinger sits on the Morgan/Chase International Advisory Board.

Other examples could be cited, but in this writer’s opinion, the association Dr. K is most afraid might be made public is with the little known company Acxiom.

Hardly a household name (we will try to change that), Acxiom has been selected the lead company to provide software and pull together the network to furnish the information to DARPA’s “Information Awareness Office” (IAO) where John Poindexter of Iran-Contra infamy will prepare individual dossiers on every American citizen and the millions of aliens (legal and illegal) in the country.

The plan calls for the collection of information from a staggering number of sources, such as banks, credit unions, health care organizations, the IRS and Social Security agencies, the INS, the FBI, grocery chains and any number of other companies and government agencies (federal, state and local) that have records of individual transactions.

But even this association might be covered up in these days of managed news. No, what scares Kissinger the most is the control and history of Acxiom itself. The company may be more than just a client. Mack McLarty sits on its Board of Directors, which implies some kind of investment to protect.

While the name of the company means nothing to almost all Americans, perhaps a couple of the names under which it operated earlier will generate a spark of recognition. Before it morphed into Acxiom, the company was named Alltel. Still nothing? Then how about its original name, Systematics? Now memories come flooding back of the PROMIS software scandal and those associated with it.

The powerful PROMIS software was developed by Bill Hamilton’s company Inslaw. It was virtually stolen by the U.S. Treasury Department. It was then combined with software from Systematics and farmed out to the CIA for final modification (installation of a backdoor feature).

When Treasury forced Inslaw into bankruptcy (by withholding payments due Inslaw) ownership of the software wound up with a CIA cutout named the Hadron Corp. Hadron peddled the software to governments and financial institutions around the world, thus giving the CIA backdoor access to the secret information of a number of governments and banks.

But it doesn’t stop there. The person who controls Acxiom/Alltel/Systematics is Arkansas billionaire Jackson Stephens. Stephens, and those working with him, have been involved in myriad shady operations too numerous to cite here. We can only hit some of the highlights.

At Systematics, one of the lawyers Stephens hired to represent the company was a bright young attorney named Hillary Rodham. After she joined the Rose law firm (then Hillary Rodham Clinton), Stephens employed the firm (mainly its partners Hillary, Vince Foster and Webster Hubbell) in several of his ventures.

Stephens was a financial angel to both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. He gave final impetus to Clinton’s cash-strapped presidential campaign with a large “loan” from his Worthen bank. Stephens (along with the Harvard University endowment) rescued one of Dubya’s companies from bankruptcy with sizeable investments.

Another scandal suppressed by the “watchdogs of the press” was the cocaine smuggling aspects of the Iran/Contra affair. In return for arms smuggled to the Contras in Nicaragua, cocaine was being brought back to the U.S. and dropped off at a small airport at Mena, Arkansas. Pilot Barry Seal, a CIA asset and drug runner, was also dropping bales of cash in Mena. The drug money was laundered (among other channels) through Stephen’s Worthen bank and an Arkansas state agency set up by Governor Bill Clinton (the Arkansas Development Finance Authority). Overseer of the Iran/Contra operation was then Vice-President George H.W. Bush, as later proved with a memo from Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger.

A partner with Stephens in the Worthen bank was Mochtar Riady, one of the principals in the Indonesian Lippo Group. The Lippo Group was heavily involved in the campaign financing scandals of the second Clinton presidential campaign, with links to the Chinese military.

Our final example is perhaps the most important unfinished investigation of the last 40 years. The Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI) was started by a Pakistani banker ostensibly to service Arab clients in the Middle East. It quickly became a money laundering mechanism for various terrorist organizations in the area. It then branched out to London and other locations and became a repository and laundering channel for a broad spectrum of organizations, including the terrorists as well as Mossad and the CIA.

BCCI established a branch in Florida and took over the largest bank in Washington, D.C. (First American) with the assistance of Stephen’s Worthen bank and the Rose law firm (Hillary, Foster and Hubbell). When the Florida branch was exposed, it was shut down, but the investigation was limited to Florida.

Later, Assistant District Attorney Robert Morgenthau in New York launched a comprehensive investigation into BCCI until it was shut down by Robert Mueller in the Department of Justice (now FBI Director) and Mary Jo White, Clinton-appointed U.S. Attorney for the southern district of New York. White was held over by George W. Bush long enough to deep six the investigation of Clinton’s pardon of Marc Rich. She also closed the investigation of Terry McAuliffe (who was on the verge of being indicted) in the Teamster/Democratic National Committee campaign money swap conspiracy.

Yes Henry, it is understandable why you ducked and ran when it looked like you might have to disclose your relationship with Acxiom/Alltel/Systematics and Jackson Stephens.

December 18, 2002

http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/rarey/rarey5.html

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Acxiom's Board of Directors

Dr. Ann Hayes Die

William J. Henderson

Charles D. Morgan
Chairman of the Board and Company Leader

General Wesley K. Clark

William T. Dillard II

Harry C. Gambill

Rodger S. Kline
Director and Company Operations Leader

Thomas F. (Mack) McLarty, III

Stephen M. Patterson

James T. Womble
Director and Client Services Leader

Bios

Dr. Die is Managing Director of Academic Search Consultation Service in Washington, D.C., the oldest and largest higher education consultation and academic search firm in the United States focused on college and university presidencies. Prior to assuming that position, Dr. Die was Vice President and Partner in A.T. Kearney, Inc.'s higher education practice. From 1992-2001, Dr. Die was President of Hendrix College in Conway, Arkansas. She is a member of the Board of Visitors of Air University of the U.S. Air Force and a former member of the Board of Directors of the National Merit Scholarship Corporation. She is past Chair of the Board of Directors for Educational and Institutional Insurance Administrators, the National Association of Independent Colleges and Universities, the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) Division III Presidents Council, and the American Council on Education's Council of Fellows. Her memberships have included the American Council on Education Board, the Arkansas Repertory Theatre Board, and the NCAA Executive Committee. She formerly served as Dean of the H. Sophie Newcomb Memorial College and Associate Provost at Tulane University. Dr. Die graduated summa cum laude from Lamar University, earned a master's degree from the University of Houston, and a Ph.D. in counseling psychology from Texas A&M University.

Mr. Henderson was the 71st Postmaster General of the United States and the fifth career employee to lead the world's largest postal system. He served in that position from May 1998 until his retirement in May 2001. From 1994 until his appointment as Postmaster General and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Henderson served as Chief Operating Officer. From 1992-1994, he served as Vice President of employee relations, then became Chief Marketing Officer and Senior Vice President. In addition to his service in Washington, D.C., he has served in postal management positions in Chicago, Greensboro, Memphis and Stockton, among other locations. In 1997, Mr. Henderson received the Postal Service's John Wanamaker Award, and in 1998 he received American University's Roger W. Jones Award for Executive Leadership. In 1998, Mr. Henderson also received an honorary Mailing Excellence Award from the National Postal Forum for his work with the nation's professional mailing industry. He is a graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and served in the U.S. Army.

Mr. Morgan joined Acxiom in 1972. He has been Chairman of the Board of Directors since 1975, and serves as Acxiom's Company Leader. He is also a Director and past Chairman of the Board of the Direct Marketing Association. In addition, he serves as a member and is the past Chairman of the Board of Trustees of Hendrix College. He was employed by IBM Corporation prior to joining Acxiom. Mr. Morgan holds a mechanical engineering degree from the University of Arkansas.

General Clark (U.S. Army, Retired) is chairman and CEO of Wesley K. Clark & Associates, a business services and development firm based in Little Rock, Arkansas. He is senior military analyst for Cable News Network (CNN) and is Chairman of the Board of WaveCrest Laboratories, a technology company that specializes in electric propulsion systems that transform electrical energy into mechanical motion. General Clark is a noted speaker presenting key insights on strategic leadership, foreign and military policy and high technology to
corporate leaders and other audiences. He serves pro bono as a distinguished senior advisor for the Center for Strategic & International Studies (CSIS), as a Director of the Atlantic Council, and as a member of the board of the International Crisis Group, Messer-Griesheim and SIRVA Corporation. General Clark began his
military career by graduating first in his class at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point in 1966. Upon becoming the Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, in 1997, he was in overall command of NATO's military forces in Europe. He also served as the Commander in Chief of the U.S. European Command. In 1999, General Clark commanded the alliance's military response to the Kosovo crisis. He retired in 2000 after a highly distinguished and decorated 34-year military career. In that same year, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor. Following his retirement from the Army, he was employed by Stephens Group, Inc. of Little Rock, Arkansas, working in high technology venture capital as Managing Director-Merchant Director. He resigned from this position in February 2003 to pursue other interests. In addition to his degree from West Point, General Clark received a master's degree in philosophy, politics and economics from Oxford University, where he studied as a Rhodes Scholar.

Mr. Dillard has served since 1968 as a member of the Dillard's, Inc. Board of Directors and is Chief Executive Officer of Dillard's, Inc. of Little Rock, Arkansas, a chain of traditional department stores with 338 retail outlets in 29 states. In addition to Dillard's, Inc., Mr. Dillard is also a director of Barnes & Noble, Inc. and serves on the J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. National Advisory Board. He holds a master's degree in business administration from Harvard University and a bachelor's degree in the same field from the
University of Arkansas.

Mr. Gambill is a director and has held the position of Chief Executive Officer/President of TransUnion LLC, a company engaged in the business of providing consumer credit reporting services, analytic models and real estate settlement services since April 1992. Mr. Gambill joined TransUnion in 1985 as Vice President/General Manager of the Chicago Division. Mr. Gambill is also the Chairman of the Consumer Data Industry Association. He holds degrees in business administration and economics from Arkansas State University and is a member of their Business School Advisory Board.

Mr. Kline serves as Acxiom's Operations Leader. He joined Acxiom in 1973 and has served as a Director of the Company since 1975. Mr. Kline holds a degree in electrical engineering from the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville, where he has served since 1990 as Chairman of the College of Engineering Advisory Council. Prior to joining Acxiom, Mr. Kline spent seven years with IBM Corporation and two years as an officer in the U.S. Army.

Kissinger's partner:

Mr. McLarty is Vice Chairman and serves on the Board of Directors of Asbury Automotive Group, Inc., which is one of the largest automotive retailers in the United States. He is also Chairman and CEO of McLarty Companies, Inc. and McLarty Management Company, Inc. of Little Rock, Arkansas, and is President of Kissinger McLarty
Associates of Washington D.C. He is a board member of the Americas Society/Council of the Americas of New York City, the Inter-American Dialogue of Washington, D.C., Ross University, the Center for the Study of the Presidency, and the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. He also serves on the advisory boards of various other entities. In 1983 he became chairman and chief executive officer of Arkla, a Fortune 500 natural gas company. He was appointed by President George Bush to the National Petroleum Council and the
National Council on Environmental Quality, and he was a member of the St. Louis Federal Reserve Board from 1989 through 1992. Beginning in 1992, he served President Clinton in several key positions: Chief of Staff, Counselor to the President, and Special Envoy for the Americas, with over five years of service in the President's Cabinet and on the National Economic Council. He holds a degree in business administration from the University of Arkansas.

Mr. Patterson is the former President, CEO, and major shareholder of Leisure Arts, a publishing and direct mail company. Leisure Arts was acquired by Time Warner in 1992. Mr. Patterson is currently an investor in Patterson Enterprises for which he served as President from 1994 -2000. He currently is serving as Vice Chairman of the Board of Trustees of Hendrix College. Mr. Patterson served on the Board of Directors of Worthen Bank and its successor, Bank of America-Arkansas, for 12 years. From 1978 - 1980, Mr. Patterson served as Assistant Treasurer of First Arkansas Bankstock Corporation, a public company, and as President of various subsidiaries of that company. Mr. Patterson has a bachelor of arts degree from Hendrix College, an
electrical engineering degree from Columbia University, and a master's of business administration degree, also from Columbia University.

Mr. Womble joined Acxiom in 1974 and serves as a Director of the Company as well as one of Acxiom's Client Services Leaders. Mr. Womble is also a director of Sedona Corporation. Prior to joining Acxiom, he was employed by IBM Corporation. He holds a degree in civil engineering from the University of Arkansas.

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:41 PM
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12. My rash is fine,,,
My question is why would you lead a post based on Rush? He takes all marching orders from Rove.....

Use some of the more free-thinking links that fellow DU'ers offer. I know it takes a little more time but it would give you more data than the listed propoganda. I know for myself, I live in right-wing territory and do not have radio/media options for the progressive American. I am thinking about getting that Sirrus radio and I do subscribe to online news papers.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:43 PM
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14. It's all a "when did you stop beating your wife" trick.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 12:47 PM by maggrwaggr
That's all it is. They know it's groundless, they just want to distract people and GET HIM TO ENGAGE IN THEIR ARGUMENT.

If he's smart, he'll ignore them. And so will we.

Once you engage, you're toast.

"No, I swear, I had nothing to do with Waco!"

"Let me tell you what REALLY happened in Pristina ...."

That's how wild accusations turn into rumors/turn into public assumptions. Like Gore and the internet, blah blah blah

One thing I like about Clark is his ability to deal with assholes like this. I've been very impressed at how he handles the stupid questions.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:44 PM
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15. Tio Diego, I don't think anyone got it
It's a joke guys. It says "by Rush Limbaugh"

Of course I don't know about his nurse's rash either. Maybe I don't get it. :freak:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:49 PM
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19. Unbelievable. I can't believe my eyes. I won't laugh though
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 12:56 PM by NNN0LHI
Much.

Don

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TioDiego Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:50 PM
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21. Thanks Clark Can Win
Nurse said I gaulded her yesterday. I suggested corn starch, and I wanted to follow up. LOL!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:54 PM
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23. It was a fine suggestion. It's another day...
I applied my cornstach last night and as a preventitive, I am drinking less coffee. I got to work tonight....I'll save the coffee for the night shift....... O8)
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:56 PM
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26. Good that means if Rush to judgment day Limbull is against him
he's allright! Not a corporate pawn like Rush! Has no expierence in politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The repubs favorite slur is that we democrats politicize everything, so how the hell can they gripe about Clark being nonpolitical? Clark's being inexperienced in politics may mean not bought and paid for by the corporate thieves and world plunderers!
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:58 PM
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28. The right is scared of Clark
that is why they are bashing him...
Real war hero as opposed to "plays one on TV"
"Smart vs: Moran"

I could go on.
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TioDiego Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 12:59 PM
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29. You're damn right they are LuLu.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:02 PM
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31. Scared? They are terrified is more like it n/t
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:00 PM
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30. I heard someone on c-span yapping about Clark and I wondered if this
was indicative of how the rwingers are going to attack him. The man who called in stated that he is a registered repug, retired military and then he went off of Clark and Kosovo. Mentioned something about indiscriminate bombing, killing civilians, and on and on and then something about how the Dems could even offer him up as a candidate for president. I think he mentioned - a good general, yes, but not a president.

Please note that I am NOT saying these things, just repeating what I heard. I considered posting this on a thread as a heads up to the Clark supporters that the attacks seem to be increasing and that they seem to be developing a pattern relating to Clark's military career in an effort to discredit him.

Don't ya just loooove the rwing attack machine?
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:08 PM
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34. Absolute nonsense
Clark's NATO command went to the most extreme lengths to prevent civilian casualties in 1999. Pilot error and bad intel is what caused all of the civilian casualties, not orders or actions by Clark. He was hampered in preventing civilian casualties by Clinton's orders, which forced him to bomb at higher levels than normal, and because he couldn't use any ground troops.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:18 PM
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38. What concerns me is that you may know that it's aboslute nonsense,
but how many people who listen to rwing hate radio actually try to obtain facts? Remember Mr. Limpball's - I'll do your thinking for you - and the ditto heads seem perfectly fine with that.

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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:08 PM
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54. Could you post more about this Zuni?
I'm really interested in hearing the other side to the claim that Clark was responsible for military tactics that made it more likely that civilians would suffer from air raids, especially since those who make such claims have made the same well-refuted claims about Clark "nearly starting WWIII" or being a huge supporter of the invasion of Iraq while it was ongoing.

Or could you at least direct direct us to some links on information that would refute the charges that Clark was responsible for tactics that were especially dangerous to civilians?
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:20 PM
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39. Now the conservatives care about civilians?
What about the civilians in Baghdad who were "shocked and awed?" Why isn't this gentleman concerned about them?
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:10 PM
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35. I never watch Crossfire, but yesterday I landed on it
as Novak was discussing Clark's candidacy with Chuck Rangle. Right off the bat, Novak went on a tirade about Clark: "Clinton's lackey, disgraced General, had to beg Clinton to get his fourth star, worthless POS, etc.". Rangle was really taken back by Novak's tone, and stated "A four-star General, numero uno in his clas at West Point, Supreme Commander of NATO and you attack him as a sniveling lackey? Here comes the right wing smear machine."

mikey_the_rat
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:55 PM
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44. If that's what el fat bastard is saying, then that gives me 3 good
reasons to vote FOR Clark!

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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:58 PM
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47. Why are you listening to Rush Limbaugh?
And why would you believe him? Do you even belong on this board?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:00 PM
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49. Psst. Come here. He left out the </sarcasm> tag. OK? n/t
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:58 PM
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48. Whoaaa!! I thought Janet Reno was responsible for Waco?
But no, none of the responsibilities lies with David koresh, a damn child fucker. Did they forget who the hell koresh was.

I'm glad that the government went after those tweaks. And I blame that whole scenario on Koresh and Co. They killed themselves and their children.
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:12 PM
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53. I agree with you
LG.
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wes_clark_for_pres Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 02:02 PM
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50. Straight from the unstable hothead's mouth
"F*ck Saddam, we're taking him out"
"If yer against us yer for the terrerists"
"Bring 'em on"

Oh, sorry. Wrong unstable hothead trying to start World War III.
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