lebkuchen
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:18 PM
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Interesting staged propaganda photo of Bush |
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Not everyone is giving it their all.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:20 PM
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1. And the Hitler analogies keep on coming |
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Oh no, he's NOTHING like Hitler. This propaganda phot is NOTHING like a Nazi propganda photo. http://www.picturehistory.com/find/p/2383/g/1/mcms.html
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:36 PM
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I'm sure there are absolutely no pictures of Clinton, Carter, LBJ, or JFK being saluted by soldiers. I mean, who would expect the Commander and Chief of the Armed forces to be in pictures with the Armed Forces? </sarcasm>
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:50 PM
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20. Letters to Stripes each week are highly critical of Bush |
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veiled, out of necessity, though they may be, though several openly hostile. Col. Hackworth gets hundreds, if not thousands, of low morale letters each week. Hackworth has called Rummy an "asshole." Editorials in even the most conservative of newspapers have asked for Rummy's resignation and have called Bush "incompetent."
If you go to the photo section of Yahoo.com, you will see a plethora of recent Bush/military photo-ops that have obviously been staged by Rove to promote Bush at a time when his popularity is clearly waning. The timing was perfect. Some military members just didn't wish to cooperate.
Hitler was likewise a master of such deceit, whether he was using the military or the church to promote his ends. Nobody is claiming Bush is guilty of plagiarism, but merely of making a good attempt at grasping at straws.
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:20 PM
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27. With that kind of staged, regimented en masse salute? |
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Maybe you do have a point, nederland, but even if there is, I would like to see it.
But, considering all the other similarities between Bush and Hitler, this one stands out.
In other words, Kennedy, LBJ, et al., MAY have had a picture like this taken but then they did not have the PATRIOT Act, a Party-Loyal Sub-Media to trumpet their every whim, a dislike for liberal weakness, etc. etc. etc.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:21 PM
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2. You mean the soldier who's not saluting? |
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Are the repercussions of that?
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:25 PM
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5. she could be punished under the UCMJ |
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the salute is rendered to show respect to the position, not the person.
That soldier could be in a whole heap of trouble.
Depends on how far they (her chain of command) wants to push it.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:23 PM
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3. i notice 1 not saluting...off to gitmo! |
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Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 01:30 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
i heard a piece on MSNBC this morn ...about a mother that keeps getting letters from her son begging for her to send MORE food...said the soldiers are all losing weight and are hungry all the time...her son is 6'2" and now weighs only 135....many soldiers parents have same stories and even the imbed reporter said that he has seen the weight loss of GIs himself and many havecomplained about it to him...our soldiers are NOT getting what they need....where is the fucking money going????????
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:27 PM
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:36 PM
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One at the top of the photo, just right of center, and the other just over halfway down, on the right. Both soldiers appear to be women.
Where's the soldier who is "faking it," lebkuchen?
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:39 PM
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14. The guy with his elbow tied to his waist |
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Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 01:40 PM by lebkuchen
He can always argue he was crowded for space.
I think he was scratching his temple.
on edit: or adjusting his hat
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:41 PM
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17. That's a pretty funny-looking salute, all right! |
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Bad form, or intentional...?
Thanks so much for posting this pic and pointing this out, lebkuchen!!!
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:55 PM
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22. There's another guy in the foreground |
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low elbow but lots of space to do it right had he chosen to. No enthusiasm, as you can see. I've seen better salutes between officer and enlisted passing each other on the way to the barbershop.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:36 PM
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11. The money is going to Halliburton |
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and the other recipients of the no-bid contracts.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:24 PM
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4. Look at the tin soldier |
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(or tinhorn, if you will) next to all the REAL soldiers. Pathetic and embarrassing at the same time.
Dirk
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:26 PM
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6. Wow, I never noticed that soldier not saluting before... |
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... very interesting photo, lebkuchen. I do imagine there are repurcussions coming for this.
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lebkuchen
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:31 PM
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9. Some people don't like to be used as stage props |
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especially when their ass is on the line.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:34 PM
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10. there are 2 soldiers not saluting...another up at the top of photo |
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and NONE of them look proud nor enthused about their ...ahem..Commander in Thief :puke:
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:30 PM
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One in the upper right and part of her head is cropped out of the picture and one closer to the front of the pic.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:40 PM
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support me so sez the unpresident,you two slackers off to Gitmo.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:43 PM
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The right arms of the saluting soldiers cast a shadow. Even if you couldn't see the hand, you'd see its shadow.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:39 PM
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15. That's a damn nice suit. |
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Too nice to wear when you're walking the plank.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:41 PM
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18. I count three soldiers, four people total not saluting. |
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The two soldiers facing forward in the audience, on at the top and one on the lower right, plus the sideways soldier second from the front of the photo. Then there is the other security guard not saluting.
TYY
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:08 PM
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24. I hadn't seen the third one, but you're right |
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Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 02:09 PM by lebkuchen
The non-saluters are all African American. Maybe an orchestrated protest...?
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:52 PM
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21. Caption: "Punishment awaits anyone who does not salute." |
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:18 PM
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25. who's the poor sod in blue |
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with his shoved up Jr's ass?
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:18 PM
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26. he looks like he's goin' |
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Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 02:25 PM by eek
"duppty doe, duppty doe" in a "which way did he go, ralph" singsong voice (edit typo)
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