TakebackAmerica
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:55 PM
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Clark vs. Dean- Who could help Democrats downticket? |
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Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 01:59 PM by TakebackAmerica
In 2000 Democrats in swing districts literally ran away form Gore. My fear is that Dean could win, but we would lose Senate seats in South Carolina,Florida and Georgia. We also might have tough fights in South Dakota, Washington and Arkansas. My belief Clark could hold these seats and help us in Pennsylvania, Alaska and Missouri.
We could also face a nightmare secnario in the House. Jim Matheson, Earl Pomeroy, Ken Lucas, Tim Holden, Baron Hill, Dennis Moore,Jim Marshall,Rodney Alexander all could get washed away. These are seats where Dean would not play well in. Clark is as liberal than Dean but he is harder to tag as a liberal. Clark could let us keep these seats and actually defeat Republicans like Anne Northrup, Max Burns, Rick Renzi and John Hostettler.
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Wed Sep-17-03 01:58 PM
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:00 PM
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2. I agree with your assessment. |
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Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 02:00 PM by CentristDemocrat
I think Clark helps us nationally. His ability to appeal to the middle, along with the base, would most certainly help us with Congressional seats. Dean is a disaster waiting to happen.
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:01 PM
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7. Dean was just down in Georgia and drew large crowds |
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A lot of the South is like Vermont -- rural, and Dean does exceedingly well in rural areas.
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:00 PM
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3. We'd have to see how the campaigns shape up |
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But you might be right. I like Clark a lot. He has a lot to offer, and it will be harder for them to tag him as a nutty ultra liberal who is going to surrender the white house to Osama bin Ladin. Bryant Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:00 PM
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Gotta figure Clark would have the longer coat.......
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:00 PM
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5. If Clark survives the primaries |
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I know he will have tremendous coattails. I'm extremely excited about Clark but he did seem nervous today. He better get up to speed quick. I'm a Clard supporter, btw.
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:01 PM
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Would Dean hurt Dems downticket?
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:04 PM
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8. Anne Northup of Kentucky would probably difficult to unseat no matter |
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who was the Dem candidate for president. She is a woman, and a solid soldier in the GOP ranks.
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:55 PM
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12. Also lots of suburban Republicans with $$$ in Louisville |
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Think Orange County, CA. Surburban Louisville is more like Anaheim than Anaheim. I know. That used to be my home turf. Now you go there, and all you see is $300,000 and up houses, big-ass SUV's, and "God Bless America" as soon as you cross the county line from either the south or the east. I hardly recognize the place anymore.
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:05 PM
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9. My fear is that dean could win too. |
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:39 PM
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Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 02:40 PM by TakebackAmerica
That is not what I meant What I meant was, that I'm afraid Dean would win and would have to face a congress that would override all his vetos. Seriously the Senate would like this 55-44-1. The House could look like this 236-196 GOP. Think about it. Or would you rather like a Seante like this 50-49-1 Democrats and 224-210 Republican House.
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Wed Sep-17-03 03:03 PM
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Most first-term winners either have big coattails or small coattails, depending on how big a schmuck the last guy was. Only Dumbya (that I know of) had negative coattails.
A good indicator is the popular vote. Gore won that, and it was reflected in the Congressional results. Now, having a Dean/Clark (or Clark/Dean) ticket divide and conquer? Two strong candidates fanning out regionally? Excellent idea. Couldn't do that with Lieberman at the bottom of the ticket, that's for sure.
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Wed Sep-17-03 02:24 PM
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10. It's all about turnout |
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So far Dean beats everybody. We'll see how Clark does in this.
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Wed Sep-17-03 03:02 PM
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13. I think Dean will be more of an asset than the establishment |
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in the dem party think. He will stress his being from a rural state, which Vermont is and his stand on guns (not what I like best about him, but a fact) also will help in southern and border states. He is also bringing new people into politics and that grass roots gotv effort will benefit the Democratic ticket from the courthouse to the white house.
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