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TakebackAmerica Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:08 PM
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Dean will ask........to be his VP.
Just anted to give DU the big scoop. A friend of mine in the Dean camp says Dean will ask John McCain to be his VP. He has been right twice before and I'm gonna trust him on this one. He says McCain will nullify Clark and will help Dean will moderates. Who knows he could be right. This is just one persons account. This ould easily be incorrect. But this sure is NIG news if it is true.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:09 PM
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1. Now, why in the world would McCain be interested in Veep Lust?
Ask, but it doesn't mean ye shall receive...
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:09 PM
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2. no way it's true
and as a Deaner, I hope he doesn't. McCain may be a "moderate" puke, but he's still a puke.
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Ashcroft Kutcher Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:10 PM
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3. Dean Mcain 04..I like it
I have tossed that thought around my head a few times. I think it would work great.
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:10 PM
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4. But McCain hates Dean
McCain has been clear that he does not like Dean.

I don't think this is going to happen. Maybe I will be wrong.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:54 PM
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47. Links please....
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HazMat Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:06 PM
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50. McCain doesn't hate Dean, but he doesn't seem to think much of him.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 06:08 PM by HazMat
By Andrew Miga
The Boston Herald
Monday 30 June 2003

WASHINGTON - GOP maverick Sen. John McCain, whose breezy straight-talking style ignited the 2000 White House race, predicts Sen. John Kerry could rekindle the same campaign magic this time around.

``He certainly can,'' McCain (R-Ariz.) said in a telephone interview with the Herald from Arizona.

``He's smart, he's tough and he's experienced. He has the capability.''

McCain, meanwhile, was skeptical that upstart Democrat Howard Dean, who considers himself the McCain of the 2004 race, could ultimately show wide political appeal.

``He is coming out of a kind of antiestablishment role that clearly resonates with some voters,'' said McCain. ``But I don't know if that can play with the broader electorate, the American public.''


Dean's appeal to hard-core liberals has undercut Kerry, particularly in New Hampshire, the leadoff primary state that Kerry can't afford to lose.

McCain defended Kerry from Dean's recent attacks charging the Bay State senator lacks ``courage'' on such issues as tax cuts, the war with Iraq and education.

``I do not believe that's a fair criticism,'' said McCain. ``Governor Dean has spent some time apologizing to people recently for some of the things he's said.''


Kerry and McCain, both decorated Vietnam veterans, forged a friendship working on the POW-MIA issue several years ago.

Asked if Kerry was the Democratic candidate most closely resembling him, McCain demurred.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/070103E.shtml


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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:11 PM
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5. McCain would NEVER say yes to that.
It would be too much of a gimmick anyway. And McCain's too much of a Republican.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:11 PM
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6. wish he'd tell us
before the election..because if it is McCain Dean has LOST my vote.....I don't trust McCain at all!!!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:12 PM
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7. Dean would lose too many democratic votes to do this
McCain is a big COnservative. He was all for the war. For tax cuts. For many of bush's nefarious policies. McCain is a contrarian within his party - and sometimes gives them hell. But he is a far right republican. He would never run as a democrat, and Dean would lose more democrats than he would gain independents for such a move. I for one would not vote for a democrat in the primary if he was likely to pick a repub running mate - and possibly turn the country over to a conservative if something happened to him.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:32 PM
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27. Dean would lose democratic votes with VP McCain?
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 03:32 PM by gristy
Because their hatred of McCain overwhelms their mixed feelings about *? LOL! I don't think so.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:47 PM
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40. Look on this thread
if it were leaked - or discussed that these were his intentions - dems would flock to another candidate who would not put a conservative republican back in arms reach of the presidency.
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Nixons Bastard Son Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:48 PM
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45. "conservative" republican?
If McCain is a conservative Republican, then there's no such thing as a moderate Republican.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 09:30 PM
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60. McCain is a conservative republican
not a neo con (who along with the religious right moved the party further right) but very conservative. A hawk, blind supporter of most corporate interests over citizen interests.

The thing is - he is a also a maverick (which I do enjoy about him - and I loved his run against bush). Think of him as the party contrarian or gadfly. Loves to stick in here and there to the party. But look at his voting record, overall, and one finds that he is very conservative. While from time to time he is sporadic, I believe that there are a number of east coast and near midwestern republicans that are a bit more (consistently) moderate than he.

I think folks get so much into it when he sticks the rest of the party (and I enjoy that too) that they begin to perceive him as having a moderate voting record overall. He does not.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:13 PM
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8. Makes perfect sense
Since Dean is rather conservative, it makes sense he'd pick another conservative as a running mate. No surprise here.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:14 PM
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9. Does...not...compute.
What an amazing coup if it's true, but McCain would have to switch parties. All I know is I wouldn't miss that news cycle for worlds. Can you imagine the fun watching the Repuke talking heads choking on their own bile?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:14 PM
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10. I don't believe it!
And I don't want a fucking republican on my ticket.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:15 PM
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13. Agreed
I don't want McCain
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:15 PM
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11. A huge mistake if true
And it better not be. My opinion of Dean would fall through the floor.

Who wants 3/4 of the presidential ticket to be Republican? I mean, besides Republicans?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:15 PM
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12. It would be a big mistake
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 03:16 PM by Uzybone
McCain is conservative to the bone. If Dean does that itll be the end for him. And do people pick VP during the primaries?
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TakebackAmerica Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:16 PM
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14. I understand
this is still pure speculation.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:22 PM
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18. It is actually irresponsible......
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 03:31 PM by liberalnurse
It only minimizes the Dean campaign and sets out bait for anti-deans to post and counter validate with flames.....

I'm dissapointed. And to recall I felt sorry for your locked thread incident.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:29 PM
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25. I agree and was going to say the same thing
it's like posting "I have on good sources that Clark is going to choose Cheney as his VP immediately after Cheney announces he's not going to be *'s running mate next year. In fact, that's why he's resigning, he likes Clark so much". Very irresponsible move unless you are DAMN certain this is a VERY likely scenario IMHO.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:16 PM
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15. Hey I heard Dean was going to pick Arlen Specter
Really, a friend of the mailman's cousin's next-door neighbor overheard it a the grocery store.

or maybe it was Phil Specter.

Sheesh... Threads are getting rather pathetic...
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:18 PM
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16. No way.....It ain't going to happen....
Your friend is obviously placing a feed sack over your head.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:19 PM
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17. not that i question what YOU say, but
i don't think this is true... for so many reasons...


besides, i talked to two campaign staffers monday and got NO mention of this or anything even hinting to it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:25 PM
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21. The Dean I've come to know wouldn't do that!
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 03:29 PM by zidzi
It's just silly!

Any Dem that would think about putting mccain on his ticket is smacking of desparation.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:26 PM
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24. yeah
especially the way DEAN talks about republicans... he hates them :-) like me, that's why i like him so much.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:37 PM
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29. I don't think he likes...
...the batch of Republicans currently holding power, but I don't think he, or I for that matter, hate all Republicans. There are some he could no doubt work with, and on SOME issues, McCain might be one of them, but as a VP nominee, yeah, right, my shiny buttered ass...
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:18 PM
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36. spoken in gest
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:23 PM
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19. Gary Coleman
To secure the Minority Little People and Washed Up Child Star vote.
:silly:
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Procopius Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:56 PM
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49. No. Emanuelle Lewis
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:23 PM
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20. Gee...
...anyone else smell the rank stench of pure bullshit?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:25 PM
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22. Arm raised in air!
:-)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:26 PM
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23. No Way. McCain is infirm. His politcal career is almost over
I don't even know if he is going to run for the Senate again.
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:31 PM
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26. Well, I'm available
if you want a McCain who is a Democrat.

Not much public office experience, though ....
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:37 PM
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28. Nah, it'll most likely either be Gen. Clark or Sen. Edwards, IMHO. (n/t)
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:39 PM
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30. McCain prefers Kerry to Dean, so why would Dean ask a Republican
to share his Democratic ticket?

What is your friend smoking?
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:47 PM
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31. how on earth will mccain nullify clark?
first of all, dean would first have to get the nomination in order to pick a running mate. if he won the nomination, then clark is already out of the picture.

secondly, how could a repuke like mccain nullify a progressive military hero/rhodes scholar among democratic voters? this makes no sense whatsoever.
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TakebackAmerica Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:18 PM
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37. well
He said dean would replace kerry as the frontrunner by the end of August. He also said Clark wouldrun all the way back in June.
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dean4america Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:47 PM
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32. what was ...
what was your friend right about those other two times?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 03:48 PM
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33. No doubt about it. Clark .
They couldn't lose with that ticket. Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean. I would be thrilled with either!
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:06 PM
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34. I will wager a Grand against a cold cup of Seattle coffee this never hap
pens.
:D
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:14 PM
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35. I would rather have Bob Graham as Dean's running mate.
He will need a Southerner to get some votes particularly in Florida. Bob Graham is still very respected down there and he is just like Dean. A straight shooter. He is my third choice as President. I would also pick Wesley Clark as Secretary of Defense and maybe Bill Richardson as Secretary of State. Dennis Kucinich as HUD or Labor Secretary.


John
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dofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:19 PM
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38. Settle down, children.
You need to understand a few essential things about party politics. People like McCain are life-long, sincere Republicans. The unfortunate result of the common use of such terms as "Repuke" or even just "puke" is that you start thinking all Republicans are cartoon characters you should dispise. But my point is, career politicians DO NOT cross party lines. Dean wouldn't ask McCain to be VP, nor would McCain accept. And not a single other of the Dems running for president would ask a Republican, no matter how well respected, to be on the ticket.

Please think just a little before you post such nonsense.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:30 PM
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39. Dean won't pick McCain.
If this was a just world, John McCain would announce his candidacy for President as a Republican and split the right-wing vote. I wouldn't even mind Pat Bucannan running again. The more division among the right, the better the Democrats chances once the smoke clears.

John
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CentristDemocrat Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 04:48 PM
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41. Beside the fact that McCain HATES Dean,
this makes no sense.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:56 PM
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48. links please ??? I have never read this. Mr McCain and I have never had
lunch, so I personally don't know what his thoughts are. I just googled him and can find no such comments in regards to Dean. Please enlighten me/us.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:09 PM
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42. Diane Feinstein
Washington exerience, moderate reputation, big excitement factor.
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HazMat Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:19 PM
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51. DiFi has endorsed Kerry (nt)
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 07:27 PM
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54. Even better
bring the Party together after a tough primary campaign.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:10 PM
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43. No! NO! NOOOOOO!!!
My cousin's co-workers sister's housekeeper has an ex-boyfriend that works on for the Dean camp in Vermont, and he said that he overheard Howard Dean's driver say that Dean had a late night dinner/meeting with Jerry Brown or maybe it was Jerry Lewis.

It's the truth, I seen it.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:42 PM
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44. Better not be Jerry Lewis!
If his recent interview on FAUX was any indication, he's further to the right than McCain!!

Maybe it was Jerry Lee Lewis? :evilgrin:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 05:53 PM
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46. That's right!
It's Jerry Lee Lewis. Wait, maybe it was Lewis Gossett Jr.?
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:21 PM
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52. Ick! Definately wouldn 't vote for Dean if that were true!
McCain may be a nice guy, but he's still a republican!
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 06:24 PM
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53. This is not true
They are on polar opposites in foreign policy( IRAQ war) McCain has blasted Dean many times.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:32 PM
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55. Dean said tonight on Hardball he hopes bush gets reelected.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 08:33 PM by Kahuna
So much for that rumor. :eyes:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:34 PM
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56. A move like that would cause me to cast Dean into the pit with
Lieberman
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 08:54 PM
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57. I think you only posted this due to newsguyatl 's post yesterday
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 08:54 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
Nice head game
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 09:04 PM
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58. I can't see McCain leaving the republican party
even though he's too moderate to suit this right wing bunch that's in office now, it's pretty far-fetched for me to think he would leave his party. He would be a pretty good choice, if he would consider it.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 09:15 PM
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59. Put the pipe down. You've had too much. McCain is a REPUBLICAN!!
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