If Cheney is out in 04, who will be on the ticket with Bush and why?

[Prodemsouth]

I think it will be a heavy hitter, Rudy Giuliani; or someone who could draw base votes from the Democrats, Powell or Rice. What do you think?

[bahrbearian]

1. Let's hope it's Lieberman

Get rid of two in one swipe.

[creativelcro]

2. VP

K. Harris ?

[colorado_ufo]

15. Oh. My. G_d.

Say it isn't so! Could you even stand to LOOK at her, much less listen to her, for a whole campaign?

[missie1956]

18. Lieberman!!?

This really gave me the chuckles.

[AP]

3. Frist, Hagel or Ridge. I think those three are being groomed.

I think Libby Dole might be a VP candidate.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

8. I agree with your pics

Frist is described as a moderate, Dole to keep the female vote and Ridge and Hagel because they are rainmakers that can rake in the dough.

[Wwagsthedog]

23. Oh my goodness!

Dead cats,
Compromised voting machines,
Color coded alerts
or juicy pineapple.
So many choices?

[Kamika]

4. powell

maybe rumsfeldt

[PROGRESSIVE1]

7. No! He is too moderate!

Bill Frist seems to be the best choice for the Righties!!!

[Prodemsouth]

12. They are not as Purist as lefties, most of them know you have to toss

a bone to moderates and centrist, if they are going to win. many of the heavy left leaners think the righties think like they do, having been one at one time I can tell you this is not true. Look at Bush, remember how he ran, he, I mean Rove, may in fact be looking for a moderate.

[Prodemsouth]

5. Again I would also like to know WHY you think they will be his VP.

n/t

[Alex146]

6. George Pataki

?

[djg21]

43. Pataki definitely!

That's why Pataki has been out raising so much cash for Shrub lately. Shrub may think he can pick up NY and other northeastern states with Pataki on the ticket.

[Starpass]

9. I think you are right about Rudy

makes sense. He's the only swine around the 9/11 scene who actually looks like "a good guy". Bush wants to appeal to masses again---unfortunately, I don't think people care about #2 anymore; they are just plenty sick of #1. And Rudy would be a hard sell to his base with all that living in sin shit, you know.......man I'd love to hear the spin doctors spin that one.

[Prodemsouth]

13. Hey Bill Bennett still has em following him. They are willing to forgive.

Do recall what Pat Robertson said to help Arnold. Arnold makes Rudy look like Mr. Church on Sunday. They are for winning first. As a former right winger, I find many on the left that assume their opposites are the purist they are, not true at all.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

16. Are you saying that the Christian Reich supports the Groper?

.

[Prodemsouth]

22. You didn't hear about Pat Robertson's remarks supporting Arnold.

Not all do. But they get heavy pressure to tow the line. When there is doubt or bashing, and leadership feels the Repug can win and help the Party in general, they send the talkers out to "straighten everybody out". Look at how Limbaugh changed on Arnold. I see a lot of threads here that are under the mistaken notion that the right thinks like the left as far as purity of candidates is concerned.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

24. I found the story!!!

Damn hypocritical swine!!!!!

[Prodemsouth]

31. Hell yeah!!

Believe me in they can make a case that this will help conservative in ANY WAY they will get their base out.

[djg21]

44. Rudy couldn't do it!

His ego is too big, and he would be unhappy being anything but a chief executive. He'll likely run against Spitzer for the NYS governor's mansion when Pataki moves on after this term.

[StandWatie]

10. maybe John McCain if he would do it for Jr.

I sort of doubt he would and it would seriously piss off the kool-aid drinking Bush Bunch but they don't really have anywhere to go and it would shore him up against Clark.

[oneighty]

11. Bush

Will shy away from a popular figure that would present a challenge against Jebbie in 2008. (Assuming a Bush win in 04)

180

[billbuckhead]

19. I used to worry that Con-da-sleeza might get the shot

But the BFEE destroys most of what it touches and now she is radioactive from the faux -WMD mess.

[Mz Pip]

14. Condoleezza

Black woman for VP. Can you imagine the PR? Never mind her politics. Just for PR alone. Even the racist freepers would have to bite their tongues.

MzPip
:dem:

[leftofthedial]

17. Powell is the front runner

I don't see any of these lying criminals drawing much of anything from the Democrats, especially not from the Democratic base.

My personal favorite would be Dan Quayle. Dumb and Dumber.

[October]

41. That was funny!

Dumb and Dumber...

Thanks for the laugh.

[David Zephyr]

20. Rudy Giuliani or Liddy Dole

Rudy: The Republican National Convention will be in NYC and it would be a play for NY's electoral motherlode. The Convention is very close to the November election which would not give the religious conservatives enough time to protest a pro-choice, pro-gay rights VP. Anyway, they are not protesting Arnold in California, are they?

Liddy: This is the other bold choice and would be very Rovian like choosing Rudy. Obviously, it would help close the gender gap. She is anti-choice and a Republican "star". ALSO, THERE HASN'T BEEN A GOP TICKET SINCE 1976 THAT HAS NOT HAD EITHER A BUSH OR A DOLE ON IT. THINK ABOUT THAT FACT, IT IS ASTOUNDING.

[Prodemsouth]

25. Great comments David, you are a thinker! Rev Lou Sheldon is attacking

Arnold, but someone will come around and say if Arnold wins California it will be good for Conservatives and many, not all but many will hold their nose and go vote for him. I have seen things like this happen many times.

[David Zephyr]

27. Sheldon Has Asked Arnold to "Apologize"

and that's about it.

Meanwhile, consider the great silence and:

Where is Pat Robertson on Arnold?

Where is Bill Bennetts' "outrage" on Arnold?

Where is Jerry Falwell's concern about "God lifting the protective veil" with Arnold?

Where is James Dobson's "moral" indignation about Arnold?

Silence. Silence. Silence.

As you correctly say, Prodemsouth, "many will hold their nose and go vote for him".

[Prodemsouth]

32. Intresting on Sheldon, Robertson btw came out and supported Arnie

n/t

[David Zephyr]

37. Robertson Has Oil Leases in the South Bay Here in L.A.

I'm serious as a Dick Cheney heart attack. Pat Robertson lobbied the Torrance City Council to allow him to begin drilling for oil from one of his oil leases in the Pacific. They shot him down.

I didn't know that Robertson had supported Arnold, but I'm not suprized. Pat Robertson loves his African Diamonds and Oil Leases more than the god he professes to love. What was that about God and mammon?

[frank frankly]

30. wow--that's amazing

I didn't know that!
BFEE is going down!

[David Zephyr]

39. Amazing Indeed.

1976: Ford / DOLE
1980: Reagan / BUSH
1984: Reagan / BUSH
1988: BUSH / Quayle
1992: BUSH / Quayle
1996: DOLE / Kemp
2000: BUSH / Cheney

28 Years between 1976 and 2004. All Republican National Tickets have either a DOLE or a BUSH.

Pretty amazing, huh?

[madison]

21. Rudy Giuliani is on HIS THIRD WIFE.

Somehow I don't think that would please the Republicans' base.
.
P.S. Rudy is a Catholic, so that makes his wife-exchanging a bit delicate

[Prodemsouth]

29. Ronald Reagan was divorced, I repeat again these people are not the

purist that many on the left think they are. Please see my other post. Pat Robertson defended Arnold. If the argument is made that it helps conservatives, they will get the base to go along. I hate to keep nagging ya'll about it - but I feel it is important for you to learn that the right wing is not as demanding on purity as many of you seem to think they are.

[Snellius]

26. Jeb

BFEE

[Ilsa]

28. Andrew Card? Or is he too close to Bush?

Just throwing it out there.

[Yupster]

33. Powell

if he can be convinced to do it. I think he can be.

I think Bush will want to do something historic if he doesn't stick with Cheney.

[Skwmom]

34. A Hispanic VP

To get the Hispanic vote which is getting larger and larger.

[Prodemsouth]

36. Yeah would help in California, But who, No Hispanic Repug jumps out

at me

[Yupster]

46. Henry Bonilla?

Congressman from Texas (he'll have to move to Wyoming). He used to be Tom Snyder's producer/director on the old Tomorrow Show many years ago.

[TomNickell]

35. Another Bush I insider, or a Repub Gov.

A VP with a real independent national political base or independent thought processes would make * look dumb(er).

And * can only function in the Good Ol' Boy backslap mode. Anybody above a 4th grade reading level is just not going to be able to communicate with *.

[ibegurpard]

38. Please don't laugh

A while ago, I was playing a Ouija board and asked it who would be the next president. It spelled Olsen. I went "What the fuck? Who's Olsen?" I couldn't think of anyone so I asked it the first name. It said Ted. That sent a total creepy-crawly up and down my spine. The guy I was playing with is not politically aware so he didn't even know who Ted Olsen was. If he replaces Cheney I'm going to have to be locked in the loony bin.

On edit: Even if I was subconsciously moving the planchette, there's no way that name was anywhere close to being in my head.

[Ztech]

40. Rice

Because she has the brains and the charisma to make it happen. Not to mention the the Rep. want to groom her to counter Hillary in 2008.

[newyawker99]

47. Hi Ztech!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[GiovanniC]

48. Playing the Sympathy

From losing his wife on 9/11?

Yuck.

[haymaker]

42. Reagan.

:beer:

[Gordon25]

45. Chuck Hagel from Nebraska

He has already reserved a domain name something like "HagelforPresident2008".

Oh, and his campaign treasurer runs the company that owns the company that counts 50+ percent of the votes in the US.

Oh, and he still has a $1-5 million dollar ownership position in that company himself (ES&S - Election Sales and Services) which he somehow never bothered to disclose on his campaign financial disclosure forms.

Oh, and he used to be CEO. Sold his machines to Nebraska, installed them, ran for Senator and became the first Republican in umpteen whatever years to be elected from that voting jurisdiction. In his reelection on those machines he got a record breaking 80% of the vote winning every precinct by landslides, even in predominately minority districts which had never gone Republican.

Oh, and when his ownership interests were disclosed and he was called in by the Senate ethics panel and questioned about it, less than forty-eight hours later the head of the ethics panel was fired and his replacement gave Hagel a clean bill of health within twenty four hours. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Sounds like he'll make a real good moral and ethical match for Bush, no?

Gordon25