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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:53 PM
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Clark's running mate
Should General Clark win the Democratic nomination there will likely be a lot of pressure on him to select a woman or a non-white as a running mate. Doing so would help him shore up his base with the liberal wing of the party. Ideas? I like Mary Landrieu or perhaps Rep. John Lewis of Georgia.
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:54 PM
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1. Charlie Rangel
:)
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:07 AM
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4. Good call
I heard Wrangel has already endorsed him. Wrangel is a solid left winger, and they would together have a strong ticket.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:25 AM
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9. Edwards. wHY?
A) Clark HOPEFULLY won't have to prove anything to the liberal wing of the party

B)Edwards is the closest thing to a real black guy in this race, considering that Braun is not a guy and Sharpton is not a REAL guy, but a career activist. No black guy I know gets to fly around in jets, talk to world leaders, and complain about stuff.

c) Pure electoral politics would suggest that if Dean or Kerry do not get the nomination to begin with, they won't be chosen as VPs, being from strong blue states. It's either Edwards, Gephardt, or possibly Graham or Richardson.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:35 AM
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14. Graham [probably...
...just to help secure victory in Florida.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:55 PM
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al sharpton
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:55 PM
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2. How about this Guy


I hear he is avalible, and pretty pissed at Bush right now...
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:12 AM
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5. nah...
I heard he's DLC.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:12 AM
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6. Really? He's DLC?
I am so disillusioned right now...
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:33 AM
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12. well they won't come out and say so....
but I remember reading that Hillary Clinton likes Jesus - does the whole church thing and all. He's clearly just a shill for the powers-that-be.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:34 AM
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13. I heard that
Hillary will be supporting Jesus if he runs as Clarks VP. Then she will have Jesus killed, so that she is VP. Then she will have Clark killed. Then, BAM, Hillary is the President.

Its true! A Freeper told me!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:38 AM
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16. No, if you read it on FR...
then surely it's a Jew who will kill Jesus. Lieberman? I guess Kerry and Clark, being only part-jewish, would just slap him around a little.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:40 AM
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18. OMG! You didn't know???
Hillary, I mean Hitlery, IS A JEW!!!

Its a secret though, she is an undercover Jew.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:43 AM
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20. ooooh!
One of them wiley Methodist jews! sneaky sneaky sneaky!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:56 PM
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3. Bill Richardson
That would work.

MzPip
:dem:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:36 AM
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15. yup!
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 12:39 AM by Dookus
Richardson's got a good chance.

I have to say that I think the likelihood of one of the current candidates being the VP candidate is less than 30%. I also think Graham and Edwards are the most-likely VP choices - not Clark, not Dean, not Kerry, not Kucinich.

I don't recall when the last first-runner up was chosen as the VP candidate by the winner. Usually, by the end of the primary season, they've spent so much effort slamming each other that their own words come back to haunt them (remember GHWB's "voodoo economics"?).

edited a stupid name mix-up
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:51 AM
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30. Reagan/Bush (NT)
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:17 AM
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7. DEAN!
It has to be Dean! That's the whole point! Then Dean gets to debate Cheney (or whoever they put in there instead of Cheney, if you buy current theories about his impending demise)
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:24 AM
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8. Id rather see Clark debate Cheney
And Dean debate Bush.

Not so much because that's how it has to be (Dean/Clark over Clark/Dean) but because Clark vs. Cheney would be outstanding and Dean vs. Bush would be funny as hell.
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:25 AM
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10. So you agree with me that that's the ticket?
Either way up? Because nobody else here has said it, strangely enough.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:27 AM
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11. I think that either way
Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean, either one would be unbeatable.
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WaterDog Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:53 AM
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24. Dean/Clark or
Clark/Dean That would be unbeatable!!

:bounce: :nuke: :bounce: :nuke: :bounce:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:38 AM
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17. good but
He may want to shore up someone with more experience on domestic issues. That shouldn't be to hard with the goal of a woman or minority. We need a woman or a racial minority there. The way I see it it is long overdue.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:41 AM
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19. this may sound horrible....
but while i agree it's way overdue, this is probably NOT th election for it.

Security will be the #1 issue in the election, and fair or not, women don't have the same credibility in that department that men do. It sucks. It's unfair and untrue. But that's the common perception, especially among straight white men, who we NEED to convert in 2004 (and why Clark is such an appealing candidate).

The only woman right now with credibility in this area, whether rightly deserved or not, is Condoleeza Rice. I wouldn't be surprised to see her on the Bush ticket if Cheney steps down.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:49 AM
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23. You're forgetting about another democrat on our shelf...
Lieutenant General Claudia Kennedy of Virginia, former Asst. Dep. COS for U.S. Army Intelligence.

http://www.wic.org/bio/ckennedy.htm



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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:06 AM
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27. hard to say...
I forgot somebody I never heard of.

She sounds very impressive. But the VP nominee is usually somebody with at least SOME name recognition.

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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:24 AM
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29. I agree she wouldn't be VP material, especially w/ Clark. But....
It's certainly another nail in the coffin of the idea that democrats don't have national security credentials.

I hope the Clark draft gets replicated in time for the 2006 Virginia Senate race.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:45 AM
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21. Well, we've had two southerners on the ticket before
Being from Louisiana, I will say that it is my opinion that Landrieu on the ticket would deliver Louisiana to the dems in 2004. It was pretty close last time, and this state is very fond of our hometown girl, even if the pugs did try to destroy her. For those who might not know, the Landrieu family has been in politics in Louisiana for generations and are well thought of. On the other hand, we also really need Florida, and Bob Graham, IMO, would make a fine VP.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:46 AM
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22. Edwards
Picture Edwards debating Shifty the Slant Mouth. I don't think Edwards would let Cheney go like Lieberman did.

(In fairness, I think Lieberman probably has a lasting regret about the things he should have said in the 2000 debates.)
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:37 AM
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32. Agreed. Edwards would make a strong veep candidate.
But it's easy being an armchair quarterback.

:kick:
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fabius Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:50 AM
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25. Charlie Rangel
Korean War vet. Black. Intelligent and well-spoken. Gutsy. Not r\from a "red" state however.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:05 AM
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26. Someone with lots Washington experience
I think Clark's percieved weakness would be his lack of elective experience. Therefore, I think he would take an experienced legislator. A Lloyd Bentson type.

I also would think it more likely he pick a centrist than a leftist. After all, where are the leftists going to go?

Who?

Biden
Dodd
Gephardt
Kerry
Graham
Breaux
Feinstein
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:12 AM
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28. Gephardt
Who for no particular reason if I can blot out the rose garden, really anoys me; however, he brings plenty of power with him, an excellent knowledge of healthcare and the workings of congress, and electoral votes from the heart land.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:55 AM
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31. Kucinich (NT)
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