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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:40 PM
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If Paula Jones can file a civil suit against a sitting prez, why not us?
Admittedly, I don't think there are civil penalties for treason, war crimes or mis- mal- and nonfeasance, but what the hell? C'mon! It'll be fun!
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:41 PM
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1. I like it! I want in on this!
If the politicians won't do it, dammit, we gotta do it ourselves!
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:41 PM
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2. Because we're not funded by deep pockets like Scaife.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:43 PM
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4. Still...
It is an interesting solution for an impossible problem.
Big points for creativity.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:51 PM
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8. Maybe Jorge Soros would like to finance this. I am in.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:21 PM
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17. And don't forget the network of corrupt Federalist judges
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 04:22 PM by tom_paine
Could Paula Jones have gone on without that faction of the Busheviks?

I think not.

Even if we had Clooney/Robbins/Sarandon's deep pockets funding us a la the RICO-violating Busheviks, the same Federalist-Bushevik cronies would shut it down even if their "rulings": contravened every single one of the decisions they rendered during the Attempted Coup of 1998.

They would rely (and in fact were prime contributors to) on the fact that the Imperial Family is above the law.

They would rely on the clouds and clouds of ink squirted 24/7 on command from the Party-Loyal Right-Wing Sub-Media to obfuscate the issues until most people threw their hands up in disgust and confustion.

Oh, and let's not forget the "rhetorical restrictions" that you so often catalogue and bring up on what laughingly passes for a National Dialogue here in Imperial Amerika. This would preclude any charges of hypocrisy, which, in a Free Country (thank God Bushevikian Ashcroftism has yet to "trickle down" to our daily lives...for however much longer THAT lasts) would be immediately aired.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:43 PM
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3. Hmmmm . . . Maybe we could file a class action suit
Negligent Infliction of Emotional Distress maybe?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:43 PM
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5. Because those are crimes
not civil matters.

File a claim that says "Bush* screwed me". That might work
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:56 PM
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10. Well, the serious suggestion that started this was for
Joseph Wilson and his wife to bring suit against Karl Rove for endangering her life by blowing her cover as a CIA employee (which also constitutes treason). Since the Misadministration is hardly likely to investigate or indict itself, civil action would be their only recourse. Don't you think?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:46 PM
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6. When I heard what some reactions to the Florida Fiasco 2000 are:
such as: "Why should I bother to vote? It's obvious my vote doesn't count" Yeah, I'd like to file a lawsuit.

It seems to me it can be argued that the negligence of Jeb Bush, Kathy Harris et al. have inflicted IRREPARABLE HARM to the confidence that average citizens have in democracy.
So I say we file a civil suit against the board of elections of the state of Florida for inflicting great and lasting damage to this nation due to their capricious attitude towards our most basic right.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:46 PM
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7. Bush stole my cocaine!
.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:54 PM
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9. I Still Have A Button From The 00 Campaign...
It has * with a cocaine mustache instead of a milk one... The tagline is "Got Blow"...

I got that button when Gore was campaigning in Orlando and had an appearance at the Lake Eoala bandshell....

Those were the good old days...
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:04 PM
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11. I think my first post at DU was in regards to this
Why can't we sue these fuckers some how, some way?

For fraud at the very least. For spending my money to murder people for another. For betraying the American people.

There's gotta be some sort of class action lawsuit we can bring against them.

Shit if a tree branch falls on my car on a public street I can sue the city, why can't I sue the fucking Bush administration for murdering people with MY tax dollars?
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:30 PM
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12. Damn right! I suggested this about 18 months ago in fact.
Once the Supreme Court made their asnine decision to get Clinton, they should be made to pay the price of opening a sitting president to nuisance lawsuits.

I can think of a half a dozen grounds for one--

1. aiding and abetting voter fraud in Florida. Lists of names were sent from the Texas statehouse.

2. malfesance against Harken stockholders when Bush sold short on insider information.

3. not cooperating with 9-11 investigations.

4. not revealing sources for Cheney's energy policy.

5. pulling strings to get daughters lenient treatment for underage drinking convictions.

6. unjustified executions of defendants who received sub-standard defense.

7. wrongful death for military personnel who were sent to war on false pretenses.

And that's just for starters . . .
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 03:57 PM
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13. you can't sue the president for being the president
thats what impeachment is intended for.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:01 PM
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14. But he's not REALLY the president
at least not by normal means. :hi:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:12 PM
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16. Gee, do you think he might try to use that as his defense? n/t
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:23 PM
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18. I'm not sure the courts see it that way
you know how that goes
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:06 PM
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15. Couldn't we sue him to pay for this war,
which it seems more and more to have been for his and his cronies personal agenda? They have admitted there is no connection between Al Queda and Iraq or Saddam. But, we at DU knew that didn't we. Also, there were no WMDs, which we at DU also knew. I think there would be a good case. Why should the ordinary American have to bail these idiots out?
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:27 PM
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19. better off threatening your representatives on the hill
they fear you and I far more than any president does. He is Commander in Chief after all (Rummy, send an F-15 squadren over to have a confab with Clete. Ashcroft can tell you where that is...). All congress can do is send a few Capital police your way.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:30 PM
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20. sign me in
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:42 PM
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21. How about a wrongful death suit for every soldier who was killed?
These schmucks should face hell for EVERY drop of blood THEY CAUSED to be spilled.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 04:56 PM
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22. Great idea!
Let's do it.
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