Does anybody think Charlie Rangel would endorse a war hawk?

[moondust]

It's getting ridiculous.

[CMT]

1. Rangel is supporting Gen. Clark

who opposed the Iraqi war.

[Ashcroft Kutcher]

2. I dont think he would speak out against him

in any way.

[diplomats]

3. Clark is not a war hawk

Are you saying that because he's a retired general? The two are not equivalent.

[moondust]

4. Many on DU would portray Clark

as a military monster. I don't believe Charlie Rangel, among others, would actively endorse somebody like that.

[diplomats]

7. Sorry, Buzzz, I misread your post

I thought you were endorsing the idea that Clark's a war hawk. Next time I'll pay more attention! :)

[Khephra]

5. Did anyone expect Rangel to push for any sort of a draft?

Sometimes people here trust others to do their thinking for them waaaaaaaay too much.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Charlie Rangel Pushed For A Draft

to highlight the hypocrisy of the chicken hawks* by making their sons and daughters eligible for service...

No, Charlie isn't going to support a war hawk cuz his constituents would be the first ones to be cannon fodder....





*not just the elites but the sons and daughters of all the Americans who were so gung ho about the war...

[oasis]

9. That was a "bluff" proposal. Rangel was sending the armchair warriors

an anti-war message. People are less likely to promote "elective" wars if they or thier relatives will be drafted to fight in them.

[moondust]

10. One must look at his motivations for doing so.

He wants the bluebloods to share equally in the bloodletting which very well may have the practical effect of discouraging the rush to war in general.

[Khephra]

11. And my answer to you all is that if you go back

and check out the threads on Rangel's draft then you'll see that a lot of us were shocked and disgusted that someone would bluff on an issue like this. We believed that if the GOP had wanted to call his bluff then they could have used him to push for a guilt-free-draft and the Democratic Party would have been to blame.

Lets get one thing clear--I love Rangel and I like Clark. I like anyone who was against Bush's fake war when it was unpopular and possibly treasonous....but, none of us people know Rangel...we don't really know Clark or Dean or any other politician unless we happen to REALLY know them in real life. We should make up our minds based upon our own ablities and not endorsements of others or expectations that people will act in ways that we believe they'll act.

How many of us "Thought" we knew how the Democrats would act against Bush many, many times only to be disappointed in them almost as a whole group?

Think for yourself. Question authority. That's it.

[moondust]

13. By all means think for yourself.

But don't ignore the opinions of those who may be more knowledgeable than yourself on a given subject and in this case may actually know the subject and his qualities personally.

[hedda_foil]

15. Thank you Khephra.

I am always surprised when Duer trust others to do their thinking for them. I'm always surprised by Duers who accept easy answers to hard questions. I'm always surprised by DUers who trust without verifying.

And for those who want to question my support for Dean, please be assured that I went hammer and tongs into researching his background and record BEFORE even considering supporting him, and I continue to do so.

[Uzybone]

18. Nonsense

if you dont know why Rangel pushed for the draft then you should educate yourself. Setting up a strawman like that is pretty slimy. So to you Rangel is basically a republican? Damn.

[oasis]

6. Bill, Hillary and Michael Moore adore the General.

[caledesi]

12. No, I didn't. Disappointed in Rangel.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Why

Maybe Wes is a good guy?


good guy- any Dem who can beat *

[charlie]

16. Charlie's endorsement is a plus

as far as I'm concerned. Rangel's a oldtime liberal and gen-yew-wine Republican Ass-Chewer, my kind of Dem.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Charlie Rangel Is As Old School As They Come....

NT

[Uzybone]

19. Now they slime Rangel

just becasue he endorsed a candidate whose name wasnt Dean. Your right it is getting ridiculous.