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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:20 PM
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Kennedy thinks Bush is bribing world leaders?
I wouldn't put this past them, of course, its probably happening now

NBC News talked about the Ted Kennedy interview, he says that half of the 4 billion we spend everything month on Iraq isn't accoutned for. He thinks its being used to bribe other nations to help us out.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:24 PM
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1. Oh yeah, I bet Teddy is on the money
The U.S. is mighty good at greasing the old palms of others for some shady reason or another. Our current group of slimeballs take it all to another level.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:25 PM
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2. hope
Kennedy has some damn good proof about this fraud....
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:40 PM
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8. Hell, it was all over the front page of the newspapers before the
invasion....hundreds of millions to try to bribe Turkey (didn't work), millions to Eritria and all those other "power house" nations of the coalition.

He's just stating the obvious
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:16 PM
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9. I'm sure he does
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 07:16 PM by dflprincess
I can't imagine Ted making an accusation like this if he didn't have what he needs to back it up.

And, with my tinfoil hat way of thinking, I find it interesting that he specifically refered to "a lie made up in Texas". What with all the speculation we've seen on this board about George H.W.'s action on November 22, 1963 - what else do you suppose Ted might be thinking about? (I know, I know, I am wandering far afield now.)

edited for typo
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:28 PM
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3. He's giving them too much credit.
Bribing world leaders? Sticking it in their pockets, more likely.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:39 PM
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21. Oh there have been pockets lined for sure
here at home. But what's the next 87B gonna be used for eh? Let's see the breakdown.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:33 PM
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4. uh, YEah. That's pretty standard.

The surprise is that there is anyone who didn't know this.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:36 PM
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5. The weird thing is...
There aren't any extra international troops showing up (except for the $800 million dollar Poles and the 80 from Fiji acting as security for some corporations).

So where's the money going? Are they bribing on an installment plan? (anything is possible nowdays).

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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:38 PM
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6. it still enrages me
Sure, we knew way back when they were trying to con other nations into going in with the U.S. on the war. But it still got my blood to boiling and I didn't calm down for about an hour after I heard it.

Man I hate these people.


Cher
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:39 PM
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7. Gosh, I thought Democrats weren't speaking out?
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 06:40 PM by gully
:eyes:

We also bribed top commanders in Iraq, thus the ease in the fall of Bagdhad. Funny that part of the plan didn't make Faux news ey?

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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:31 PM
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10. they bribed iraqis not to fight
Back in May, General Tommy Franks admitted Senior Iraqi officers who commanded troops crucial to the defense of key Iraqi cities were bribed not to fight by American special forces.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030524-iraq-bribes01.htm

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:36 PM
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11. "Democrats" aren't speaking out...it's just a few Dems...
...like Kennedy and Byrd (among those NOT running for prez.)

- I'll agree with your position when the REST of the party joins with those few Dems speaking out.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:44 PM
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13. Blackmail is more their style
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:40 PM
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12. methinks Teddy knows something we don't.
I can't see him making accusations this bold without being privy to some type of inside info.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:55 PM
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14. What NBC interview?
Is it still coming up somewhere? I'd like to see that.

Eloriel
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:27 PM
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19. Interview with Associated Press I think
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:58 PM
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15. This is piggybacking on what Kerry said
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 07:59 PM by blm
about the 87 billion. He said there has to be a full accounting first of the money. Kerry and Kennedy must have inside info. And my bet is that it is coming from the military and intel sources.
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:15 PM
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16. what does he think all foreign aid is ?
every dollar spent on foreign aid for as long as we've been doing foreign aid is bribery. How silly is this ?
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:16 PM
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17. DEFINITELY BUSH IS BRIBING!
No evidence! No reason! No doubt!

Just make shit up and post it on the board.
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Carmerian Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:19 PM
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18. I think I'd trust one of the highest ranking members of the Senate
before I'd trust your opinion on the matter.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:42 PM
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23. hmmmmm
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 08:43 PM by liberalnproud
don't i recognize you from somewhere today?

on edit

this is a reply to 17 not 18, so sorry
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:29 PM
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20. Cool your jets. It's not made up
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:41 PM
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22. If he is, he's not doing a very good job of it
but then again thats hardly surprising.

Just what is Chimpy good at? Other than falling down drunk that is.
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:44 PM
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24. bribed Poland with $$$$
Poland would NOT have gone along
with sending their few 100 troops to Iraq

UNLESS PAID FOR THEM.

THATS CORRECT - POLAND's ARMY WAS PAID BY BUSH JUST TO
SHOW UP.

Otherwise know in the rest of the world as - a BRIBE.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:56 PM
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25. More likely it's lining their and their cronies' pockets. (NT)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:01 PM
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26. BCCI was the same, except it worked the USA, too.
Founded by a well-connected Pakistani and fueled by Middle East oil money, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International specialized in creating "courtesy accounts" opened for legislators around the world and in the good ol' USA. Many politicians were very happy and remembered the favor. Some were distraught and wanted to report the favor as an attempted bribe, but it was too late. BCCI had opened the accounts anyway and would expose the politician as a fraud if they didn't play along.

Most of the investigation has never seen the light of day. Records have been sealed in the UK and USA. The word was that dozens of Senators — including Orrin Hatch and Phil Gramm — and as many as 100 Representatives were involved, as well as members of the Carter, Reagan, and Bush White administrations and families.

It's BFEE Standard Operating Procedure: Get them to do what the BFEE wants by hook or by crook. That is until John Kerry started looking into this stuff. Don’t take my word on it:


B.C.C.I.: Bank of Crooks and Criminals International
U.S GOVERNMENT ONE OF ITS BIGGEST CUSTOMERS


by Brian Downing Quig

Early last month regulators in 62 countries shut down the BANK OF CREDIT AND COMMERCE INTERNATIONAL. The July 29, 1991 issue of TIME MAGAZINE boldly proclaimed on its cover "THE WORLD'S SLEAZIEST BANK: How B.C.C.I. and its "black network" became a financial supermarket for crooks and spies --- and how the U.S. is trying to cover up its role." Read this issue.

I never thought I would be recommending a TIME MAGAZINE cover story on a drug money laundering bank with CIA ties. I can't find anything wrong with this most detailed account. If I had written this article few would have believed it. If it can be accepted that this material, presented by a magazine whose largest stock-holder is the Rockefeller controlled CHASE MANHATTAN BANK (a 5.5% controlling interest the last time I checked) is approximate to the truth, then a more profound lesson can be erected on this foundation.

Here are some excerpts from this TIME article and then some conclusions that will never be found in TIME. All quotes here will be from this article.

"B.C.C.I. is the largest corporate criminal enterprise ever, the biggest Ponzi scheme, the most pervasive money-laundering operation and financial supermarket ever created for the likes of Manuel Noriega, Ferdinand Marcos, Saddam Hussein and the Columbian drugs lords."

A significant part of this story involves B.C.C.I.'s "stealth-like invasion of the U.S. banking industry by secretly buying FIRST AMERICAN BANKSHARES --- whose chairman is Clark Clifford". It is known from Col. L. Fletcher Prouty that Clark Clifford was the attorney who drafted the original charter for the CIA at the direction of John Foster and Allen Dulles and the original "Secret Team".

CONTINUED…

http://www.dcia.com/bcci.html



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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:18 PM
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27. Bribe
If it is going to the CIA it can be used for anything. Media in other countries to implement Government wishes, undermine other counties oppositions to US objectives. You name it.
In the end it can be fed back to the US for Olie functions.


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