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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 08:52 AM
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"Bring me the head of a Neocon!" (Alexander Cockburn on PNAC)
An insightful article by Alexander Cockburn, now appearing in CounterPunch (www.counterpunch.org), discusses the PNAC neocons, and their reach, even into the Democratic Party. Definitely worth a read.

In the end, Cockburn reaches the same conclusions I have; we must completely rid our government of neocon influence. It is destroying this nation, has ruined our foreign policy, has created a world full of enemies for us, emptied our treasury, embroiled us in wars, .... and has infected both political parties to such a degree, it is sometimes hard to tell them apart. Additionally, through associations with groups like AIPAC, the neocons also have an incredible effect on our media as well, as there are many PNAC/AIPAC/Likud supporters among the media elite and ownership.

It is a boil that needs lancing, and quickly.

Excerpts from Cockburn's article:

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Now here we are on the downslope of 2003 and George Bush is learning, way too late for his own good, that the neo-cons have been matchlessly wrong about everything. One can burrow through the archives of historical folly in search of comparisons and still come up empty-handed. The neo-cons told Bush that eviction of Saddam would rearrange the chairs in the Middle East, to America's advantage. Wrong. They told him it would unlock the door to a peaceful settlement in Israel.Wrong. They told him (I'm talking about Wolfowitz's team of mad Straussians at DoD) that there was irrefutable proof of the existence of weapons of mass destruction inside Iraq. Wrong. They told him the prime Iraqi exile group, headed by Ahmad Chalabi, had street cred in Iraq. Wrong. They told him it would be easy to install a US regime in Baghdad and make the place hum quietly along, like Lebanon in the 1950s. Wrong.

And of course the neo-cons, who have never forgiven the UN for Resolutions 242 and 338,(bad for Israel) told Bush that he should tell the UN to take its charter and shove it. Bush, who appreciates simple words and simple thoughts, took their advice, and last Sunday night had it served up to him by his speechwriters as crow, which he methodically ate in his 18-minute speech, saying the UN has an important role in Iraq.

Now many are gloating at the neo-cons' discomfiture and waiting for their downfall. Click go Madam Defarge's knitting needles as she waits beside the guillotine. Here come the tumbrils, inching their way slowly through the rotting cabbages and vulgar ribaldry of Republican isolationists. Here's a pale-faced Douglas Feith. Up goes the fatal blade, and down it flashes. Behold, the head of a neo-con! The next tumbril carries a weightier cargo: Richard Perle and Elliott Abrams. Still not enough. Madam Defarge knits on and her patience is soon rewarded. Here come Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld, the latter defiantly jotting a coda to Rumsfeld's Rules. They are cleanly dispatched and the crowd moves off to torch the Weekly Standard and string up its editor, Bill Kristol.

Maybe not all of them, but some neo-con will surely pay the price for dropping President Bush's approval rating into the low 50s. But will the basic neo-con political line, dominant for so long in Washington, suffer a dent? Not in any fundamental way. To appreciate this one only has to look at the current posture of prominent Democrats. Are they glorying in Bush's political embarrassment and the humiliating and costly disaster for the US consequent upon its attack on Iraq? Take US Senator Joe Biden. His immediate reaction to Bush's speech last Sunday was to insist that the President would need, and should get, more money than the $87 billion requested by the White House. <snip>

Much more: http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn09172003.html

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 09:44 AM
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1. Sorry Pig
people around here don't like Cockburn because he was part of the "right-wing" media spin against Gore.
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 10:51 AM
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2. Well, too bad. Conversely, he has written numerous pieces
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 10:52 AM by Flying_Pig
that support Democrats, and democratic policies. Further, his CounterPunch site, is one of the few that posts factual articles concerning I/P issues, untainted by AIPAC/PNAC/Likud propaganda. How refreshing!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 11:20 AM
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5. that doesn't matter with party hacks..they only see the Rush Limbaugh
binary view of the world in reverse...DEMS/GOOD GOP/BAD and criticism of a DEM, no matter how valid, is BAD.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 11:02 AM
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3. that's a dumb remark you made, worthy of a crackhead
cockburn has repeatedly attacked american politicians of all stripes from his Stalinist perspective. he has even savaged as captialist roader speople like those alleged fascists bernie sanders and paul wellstone who are as left as any democrat would desire.

it pretty obvious you have not read much of cockburn's works or you would know better.

BTW cockburn was also a regular WSJ editorial page columnist who attacked clinton at every turn.
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MariMayans Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 11:16 AM
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4. I would offer a critique..
if I thought you were being serious, there are elements of truth in what you say but he certainly never called Bernie Sanders or Paul Wellstone "fascists" he said that Wellstone was ineffectual (This is undeniable) and I'm while I'm not aware that he ever wrote anything about Sanders I know he got dressed down at Counter Punch over voting for no on the Iraq resolution but yes for a feel-good "support our troops" resolution that was essentially an endorsement of the Iraq war (That's petty but it's a free world).

Dismissing Cockburn as a "Stalinist" because he dissed Clinton though is blatent red-baiting and not a serious analysis.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 11:23 AM
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6. LMFAO....
NO COMMENT!! :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 09:37 PM
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9. Crackhead? That earns you an ignore newbie, and my ...
everlasting enmity. How dare you say something like that you little punk.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 11:36 AM
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7. I posted this article the other day and

got much the same response about Cockburn. there is a group here at DU that jumps on anything from CounterPunch. Think it is the same group that jumps on anything Israli/Palastine.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 12:20 PM
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8. I, for one, thought it was an excellent article. And, don't trash
Cockburn because what he said is what I feel is truth.

Thanks for posting this. People interested in PNAC and what that philosophy has done to rape America for years....and going back to those "pushers of the cold war" who lined their pocketbooks and built military toys for mass destruction at the expense of our education system, infrastructure, economy and political discourse, should read this article, whether one thinks he's a "Stalinist" or not.
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