To All Clark Bashers- READ!

[TakebackAmerica]

If Clark is such a neo-con loving crazed general why is it that Michael Moore and Joe Conason praise him? Why is it that Rush Limbaugh and the Freeper brigade hate his guts? Wy is it that the corparate media bashes Clark.
How can anybody with a straight face tell me Clark is PNAC loving, WW3 starting,Reagan loving wacko? If that's the case, why would Charles Rangel, Joe Conason, Steve Israel and Betty McCollum and Micheal Moore support that kind of nut? Because he isn't.


Clark/Dean for America

[quilp]

1. A man is judged by who are his friends and who his enemies.

Clark seems to have the right ones.

[IndianaGreen]

2. If Michael Moore is endorsing Clark, where are the Nader bashers?

And how come they are not bashing Clark for getting Moore's endorsement?

How many times have we heard the Nader bashers spew their ilk about anything that Michael Moose said or did?

How come they are not now flaming Clark about Moore's endorsement?

Why aren't they demanding that Clark disavow Moore's endorsement as they demanded that Cynthia McKinney disavow the Nation of Islam's endorsement?

Could it be possible that Clark is the DLC Plan-B candidate, brought to the fore because the warmongering four (Kerry, Lieberman, Edwards, and Gephardt) are trailing in the polls?

I smell a rat!

[TakebackAmerica]

5. Hi IG

I can't smell a rat. I'm a proud Nader Hater. As I remember Moore went to Florida a few day befor elecion day to beg Naderites to vote Gore.

[tjdee]

6. Because Clark is running as a Democrat?

If Nader had been running as a Democrat, nobody would have cared whether Moore (or anyone else) endorsed him. In fact, some DUers would have voted for him. But Nader ran as third party, therfore shaving votes from the viable alternative to Bush.

If Clark were running as an independent, and the alternative was still Bush, DUers would have a problem.

There has to be more to your question, because the answer is so obvious, there has to be something I'm not getting?

[IndianaGreen]

8. George Wallace ran as a Democrat too!

And the last General we had running for high office, as VP, was General Curtis LeMay. Quite a charming fellow, and very much insane!

[Julien Sorel]

10. George Wallace ran for what as a Democrat?

When he ran for president, he ran for what was called the 'American Independent Party' or something like that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Yep- He Carried Fiive Southern States

and laid the groundwork for Nixon's southern strategy that the Republicans employ successfully to this day...

Wes Clark is the best suited candidate in the field to put a dent in this strategy...

[TacticalPeek]

20. The crux in a nutshell.

Erase the Wallace effect.

[TakebackAmerica]

23. Yep.

If Clark runs a good campaign he will take Tennessee, Arkansas and West Virginia. He could possibly make inroads in Louisiana and Kentucky too.

[IndianaGreen]

15. George Wallace got 40% of the Democratic vote

in the 1964 Indiana Democratic Presidential primary.

[Julien Sorel]

18. You gotta be kidding me.

And that is relevant exactly how?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. Do You Mean 68?

He also did well in states like MD and MI.....


His appeal to working class whites was frightening....

[neuvocat]

14. Because Nader is just a flat-out chump.

And before you defend him, let me make it clear that I switched from Democrat to Green this last Earth Day. Nader did everything that he could to promote himself and undid all of his activist efforts from 20 years ago.

On top of the fact that he thinks democrats let Selection 2000 happen, he's done little more than ramble on like an idiot when it comes to american politics.

The guy has Haliburton oil stock and obviously will kick someone when they are down. The Greens need to just dump him.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Because Those Folks Have Come To The Conclusion That In This

environment Clark has the best chance to beat Bush...

That's why the far right eschews him and most but not all of the left embraces him....

It's so simple.....

[meti57b]

17. you said it all!!!!!!!

[stevedeshazer]

4. Is it okay if I read, too? n/t

[bpilgrim]

7. symbolism i suppose... in this climate a GENERAL will be hard to stop

"I LIKE IKE"

though, i am certainly not a clark basher, i do not welcome a unkown military man at this moment in history but will vote for him just the same if it comes down to it though i don't understand why us progressives don't get behind the one of our KUCINICH :shrug:

btw: have yall added my link to your site yet? thanks in advance :toast:

peace

[Donna Zen]

29. Clark agrees with Kucinich

that a cut in defense spending is needed to pay for Healthcare. The difference in my mind, is that Clark could actually pull it off; anyone else would have far more difficulty.

[tjdee]

9. What about Randi Rhodes?

Wasn't she talking to him the other day, and very supportive?

I don't know how Malloy feels....anyone?

[TakebackAmerica]

11. Hmmm..

Intresting. I didn't know that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. You Forgot Katrina vanderHeuvel

NT

[tridim]

22. Randi is in love with him

She likes the way he "looks". Her endorsement is a total turn off for me. Give us some substance Randi!

Malloy isn't so excited about him (he isn't thrilled with his speaking skills or what he has to say so far), he still likes Kucinich and to a lesser extent, Dean.

[Donna Zen]

26. Malloy

seemed to have mixed feelings when I heard him; however, he distrusts the need for a general in the White House. He worked himself into quite a rant on that point, plus the British article, which I suggest everyone should read slowly...line by line. Clark stuck some real zingers in there such as when he refers to bush as "an irrational ally" hardly a compliment. The flowery opening was what through off the entire piece, but the curious part for me was the tone and word choice were unlike any of Clark's usual sparse writing. After the first paragraph the article turns and contains some great back-handed compliments. They are subtle and only a true parsing makes the meaning clear.

Malloy did admit there was no compelling reason to dismiss Clark out of hand.

[jumptheshadow]

16. I agree with you

The right-wing media is obsessed with Clark. They have not had the same fixation on Dean, Kerry, Gephardt or Edwards. They are doing their damnedest to smear him with baseless insinuations. They are concerned. Very concerned. Now is somebody going to wave the Reynolds wrap and tell me this is just part of a Republican conspiracy to elect Clark?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Wes Clark Is The Sum Of All Their Fears.....

A military man who shows the desire to expose the fraudulent assumptions their foreign/defense policy rests on...

[TakebackAmerica]

24. Yes.

That's why they must smear him before it's too late.

[jumptheshadow]

25. And...

I have this gut feeling that it's going to be the right-center and many of the military guys, firemen and cops who are actually going to provide some of the more compelling testimonials for the Democratic campaign next fall.

This election will be about the center putting the brakes on this radical administration, with the new Democratic electees using some of the best ideas from the left and the right center for governance.

[jonnyblitz]

27. Very simple. Because he is running as a Democrat!

That is the only reason required for them to hate him. Its the same reason why many Democrats hate Nader even though he is for the same things. He ran as a Green against the DEM candidate.

[TakebackAmerica]

28. Yes.

And for having the abilty to change America. Making the hate filled ways irrelevant.

[jonnyblitz]

30. i actually find Clark to be very progressive on many issues

and wouldn't label him a neo-con. I just find some of his supporters a bit heavy on the left bashing and name calling on anybody who raises questions on him. I would vote for Clark if he were the DEM nominee..Just stop screeching at me if i dont jump in line lockstep.