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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:10 PM
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Deep Throat has come out
Raw Story has the link to Vanity Fair. http://www.rawstory.com/

I am glad this came out... show "journalists" and government employees what honor is all about.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:17 PM
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1. ...of the closet?
Damn homersexuals and their deep throatin' :o
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:23 PM
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2. Well, that's real funny.
(not)

I do hope you've read the article about a man who did much for this country.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:30 PM
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3. Yes...
and I do hope you realize there are dozens of threads on this around DU already.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:31 PM
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4. No, I did not. I'd be most appreciative of links! TX!
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nonny Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:39 PM
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5. What a brave man ---- W. Mark Felt
To have such a strong sense of right and wrong -- and to bring forth the truth --- I like this man!
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:46 PM
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6. HERO!!
Took real big brass ones to do what he did.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:50 PM
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7. Yeah... where are our brass people today?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:57 PM
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8. Not so sure I'm buying this...
you can always counts on me, Trouble!!!:hi: The guy is a Bushbot! He also claims that he "is and he isn't" Deepthroat! He says he was part of it but DID NOT LEAK THE STORY to the press...

Hmmmmm...

Pretty interesting, right?
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:13 PM
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9. Oh, well, Ok....
I give ya my usual 'pffffftttt'.

A 91 year old Bushbot... I reckon we shall see, huh?

Worth kickin' to argue it anyway, cuz it's interstin'.

Oh! And PFFFFTTTTT!!! fer ya.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:23 PM
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12. Reckon' I deserve the PFTTTTTTTT...
just thought I'd engage you in some debate, darlin'! LOL!!!

:popcorn: Stay tuned! Something tells me that this ain't over by a long shot!

peace.
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trekbiker Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:57 PM
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27. the timing sure is convenient...
anything to divert attention away from the Downing Street memo..??
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:17 PM
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10. I looked all over
for my copy of "All the President's Men." I couldn't find it, so I had my son go to the library for it. The librarian said it hadn't been taken out in over 3 years. I'll bet people will be reading it again.

This is an opportune time to remind the public of how our government is supposed to work.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:23 PM
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18. People should read the book
for sure.:yourock:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:28 PM
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19. For sure.
It's a big piece of history. I haven't read it in years. Just having started the first few pages, it is as exciting as reading it for the first time. I pulled out a new spiral notebook to jot down things for future DU discussions!

I'm showing my age .... but that was a strange period to be a witness to.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:42 PM
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21. If you can stomach Tweety look at this post H2O Man
Edited on Tue May-31-05 03:45 PM by hiley
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3756709&mesg_id=3757653

snip--

And if that isn't enough we turn to legendary actor Robert Redford who
played Bob Woodward in "All the President's Men" to get his take on
this developing story...
Below snip from the MSNBC article..
Bernstein issued a statement neither denying nor confirming Felt's claim. Bernstein stated he and Woodward would be keeping their pledge to reveal the source only once that person dies.

The Washington Post had no immediate comment on the report.

snip--
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8047258/
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:19 PM
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11. Take a look at this...
Edited on Tue May-31-05 02:21 PM by fooj
The Final Word on Deep Throat (So Far)
Timothy Noah
Posted Monday, Aug. 9, 1999, at 2:41 PM PT


Today is the 25th anniversary of Richard Nixon's resignation speech. (To watch Nixon saying, "Therefore, I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow," click here. You can hear it over and over by clicking repeatedly.) Chatterbox decided to celebrate Nixon Resignation Day by phoning W. Mark Felt, the former FBI official whom Richard Nixon and Nora Ephron and various other people believe to have been Deep Throat. Chatterbox, strongly influenced by a 1992 James Mann piece in the Atlantic Monthly (which is finally online; click here to read it) has himself been fairly pro-Felt lately, and subscribes to Mann's thesis that if it wasn't Felt, it was someone else at the FBI. (See "Deep Throat: The Game Is Afoot"; "Another Bulletin From the Deep Throat Desk"; "Deep Throat Revealed (One Last Time)"; and "Deep Throat Revealed (Again).")

Earlier today, when Chatterbox first attempted to phone Felt (now an octogenarian living in California with his daughter Joan), he got an answering machine. "If you'd like to leave a message for Joan, Rob, Nick, or Deep Throat," it said, "you may do so after the beep." Naturally, Chatterbox got a little excited when he heard this. But when Chatterbox phoned back a little later, Joan Felt said it was a gag message that she had put on her phone last night after having a bottle of wine with some friends, and that this morning she'd thought better of it and taken it off. Joan said she really has no idea whether her father is Deep Throat, but that he's told her he isn't. "He hasn't revealed it to anybody if it's true," she said. Hmm, Chatterbox thought. A non-denial denial from the daughter.

Then Mark Felt came on the line. Chatterbox schmoozed Felt a bit. Does he get asked a lot by reporters whether he's Deep Throat?

Yes. A couple of times so far this week.

Are you Deep Throat?

The answer to that is yes and no. I'm the person that they're talking about. I was involved very deeply in all that ... went on. But I'm not guilty of disclosure, leaking it to the press, or anything like that.

<more>
<link> http://slate.msn.com/id/1003363/
*************************
Think about it...Shrub has got some serious opposition cropping up. Not to mention the Conyer's letter...the UK Memo...the list goes on and on. What better diversion than this? Last evening Nightline read the names of OUR soldiers in Iraq that have LOST THEIR LIVES for (what we now know as FACT) a war that was NOT NECESSARY! This war is being fought in OUR NAME and with our $$$$!!! BTW- regime change is not a legal reason for war. Not that we pay any attention to international law! Iraq is in chaos! Our soldiers are dying (many WITHOUT the proper equipment) and there is no end in sight! However, we are expected to build FOUR huge military bases there. Does that sound like we are leaving any time soon? Anyway...

Just question the timing of this...


peace.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:33 PM
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13. timing...
Edited on Tue May-31-05 02:35 PM by troubleinwinter
as I read the article this morning, 'timing' (to divert attention from what is happening now) also crossed my mind.

The need for diversion does not indicate whether Felt was Deep Throat or not. We must confirm it or debunk it.

This:

"Think about it...Shrub has got some serious opposition cropping up. Not to mention the Conyer's letter...the UK Memo...the list goes on and on. What better diversion than this? Last evening Nightline read the names of OUR soldiers in Iraq that have LOST THEIR LIVES for (what we now know as FACT) a war that was NOT NECESSARY! This war is being fought in OUR NAME and with our $$$$!!! BTW- regime change is not a legal reason for war. Not that we pay any attention to international law! Iraq is in chaos! Our soldiers are dying (many WITHOUT the proper equipment) and there is no end in sight! However, we are expected to build FOUR huge military bases there. Does that sound like we are leaving any time soon? Anyway..."

...though true, isn't the subject at hand and does NOT tell us whether Felt was, or was not, Deep Throat.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:37 PM
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14. OK. Point taken, however, the diversionary tactic makes some sense.
:banghead: Geez...it's hard to say. I just am not sure I'm convinced SO ...convince me, girlfriend!

peace.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:46 PM
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15. PPFFFFTTT!!!
I aint gonna convince ya! I just showed ya the article! WTF do I know?!!

P.S. ~ I don't care much for popcorn, so I aint gettin' in them pearly gates, ya know. I just microwaved a corndog, and think I'll be at them gates any minute (eeeeeeewww!)
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:50 PM
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22. Yep, but they can only manage the downturn at this stage
This is just not news, really

Not to labor a dead horse but...........

Geeze, who else feels most everything they read is Propaganda?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3754310
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:59 PM
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16. How about this one? Food for thought...
And before I go I must say that it is no small thing to have a king like Muhammad Ali alive and hungry on the Earth in your lifetime. I have been thinking, these last few days, of Ali most of all...I don't know the exact mechanics by which a smash-up with a bullet fucks up your memory, but when I try now to see America I first see Ali. He was a souvenir of some other world, of This Nation Before the Fall...there was something gorgeous about him, some heightened sensitivity to the promises of life...and they wanted to fucking lock him up in the name of America.

America! Lord! I won't miss it for what it was: a fucking snakehouse where the crooks snatched up all the Beauty and garotted its aching joyful Throat before the song ever began. But I think I will miss what it was meant to be...

I tried to make it so. Watergate was my try. They will tell you it was Mark Felt, but they've never been anything but a pack of shiv-fisted liars anyway. I was Deep Throat, and Watergate was my Great Work. It is a testament to the pains and exactitude of Art that I only told Woodward the believable parts...Buchanan barely knew the extent of the thing, because Pat is fine and straight and the straight never know what's really happening. Not in Washington...Not in America. It takes a madman to burrow all the way down into its seedy heart.

- Hunter S. Thompson

***********************************
"They will TELL YOU it was Mark Felt" Hmmmm...
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:21 PM
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17. kick!
thanks trouble!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: More deep throats, please...
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:33 PM
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20. Video on this page link...
Edited on Tue May-31-05 03:39 PM by hiley
Ex-FBI official: I'm 'Deep Throat'
But Watergate reporter won't confirm, deny story

MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 3:31 p.m. ET May 31, 2005


A former FBI official claims he was “Deep Throat,” the long-anonymous source who leaked secrets about President Nixon’s Watergate cover-up to The Washington Post, Vanity Fair reported Tuesday.

W. Mark Felt, 91, who was second-in-command at the FBI in the early 1970s, kept the secret even from his family until 2002, when he confided to a friend that he had been Post reporter Bob Woodward’s source, the magazine said.

“I’m the guy they used to call Deep Throat,” he told lawyer John D. O’Connor, the author of the Vanity Fair article, the magazine said in a news release
snip---
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8047258/

Hardball Tweety's newsletter, yck ! I know...
The Hardball Briefing On MSNBC
------------------------------------------------------

We've got two unique live shows going on tonight at 7 pm & 9 pm ET in
order to handle the disclosure of Deep Throat and Bush's rose garden
presser

We'll lead 7 pm ET with the Deep Throat revelation and chat with Pat
Buchanan, Newsweek's Evan Thomas & Monica Crowley, who currently hosts
"Connected: Coast to Coast" on MSNBC and used to work for Nixon in his
retirement...David Gregory will kick it off however with a snapshot of
today's Rose Garden presser.

Ex-FBI official says he's 'Deep Throat'...Magazine quotes him as saying
he was 'doing his duty' (MSNBC) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8047258/

We'll also talk to Richard Ben-Veniste, who worked with the Watergate
special prosecutor's office back in the day...

Dem strategist Jenny Backus squares off with GOP strategist Ed Rogers
over the meaning of today's rose garden presser..

We finish up 7 pm with none other than the "G-Man" himself, G. Gordon
Liddy on the Deep Throat revelation..

9 pm will be exclusively dedicated to the "Deep Throat" revelation...

We begin with an excellent Shuster backgrounder package, followed by
Tom Brokaw who covered the White House at the time, then out to Andrea,
Brokaw, Pat and former Nixon aide and all around Washington Wiseman
David Gergen

And if that isn't enough we turn to legendary actor Robert Redford who
played Bob Woodward in "All the President's Men" to get his take on
this developing story...

We then finish up with a Chuck Colson, former political aide to Nixon
and John Dean, the White House counsel turned whistleblower...

Too hot to miss folks...Please join us...

Dominic Bellone wrote, compiled and edited The Hardball Briefing from
Washington, DC

Mark Felt
http://apnews.myway.com/image/20050531/FELT.sff_NYET255_20050531124624.html?date=20050531&docid=D8AE9DL00

Nixon timeline http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5582013/

From May 2002: Why Did Bob Woodward Lunch With Mark Felt in 1999?...Was
it to ask if he could unmask Deep Throat?
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2065299

Bush blasts Amnesty report on Guantanamo...President says document is
an 'absurd report' (AP) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8046041/

Post Analysis: Has Bush run out of political capital? A series of
setbacks on the domestic front could signal that President Bush has
weakened leverage over his party, a situation that could embolden the
opposition, according to analysts and politicians from both sides
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8040150/

G8 leaders' stumbles could be boon for Bush...As summit nears, many of
president's counterparts face troubles of their own (AP)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8018917/

4 Americans, 4 Italians killed in Iraq crashes...Provincial governor
dies in clash weeks after abduction (AP)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7897149/

snip---
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cajones_II Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 03:59 PM
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23. anyone connect the dots yet?
Felt was George HW Bush's man.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:01 PM
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24. everything always goes back to a bush
which leads to PNAC.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:17 PM
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25. G. Gordon Liddy argues against it, so it hasta be true! Heh.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:49 PM
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26. Now, they are making me mad with this story
Edited on Tue May-31-05 04:51 PM by hiley
of course, you know why ..
They won't talk about Downing Street Memo but Mark Felt all day and all night on all the faux shows and channels.
You know I want to know about Deep Throat but not only Deep Throat, I bet it last for a week at least .
I hope Robert Redford brings up Downing Street Memo and Torture on Tweety's show.
Don't think I can watch it though, I am a little pissed right now.
Have not gotten over Cheney being on Larry King talking shit and then the Dictator's talk today, yck!
They are insane !

Edit to say this letter put me over the edge !
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3756687&mesg_id=3756875
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:06 PM
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28. Yes, hiley
I was just saying to husband that the 'rovian clones' on TV are having a hey-day over whether or not Felt is Deep Throat.

It doesn't truly matter if he is or is not... the HISTORY of it does matter, but they are going nuts calling him a liar to get us off the subject of THE DOWNING STREET MINUTES and BOMBING IRAQ IN 2002!!!!
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:16 PM
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29. That is correct.
Edited on Tue May-31-05 05:17 PM by hiley
The damn letter the WH sent me and the fact that I have not had one response from all the Senator's I wrote about Downing Street is making me furious, no response about depleted uranium either however there is a little news on DU. Second and third link ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3656910#top

From TruthOut
snip--
"We pretended there was no problem with Agent Orange after Vietnam and later the Pentagon recanted, after untold suffering by veterans. I want to know scientifically if DU poses serious dangers to our soldiers and Iraqi civilians."

The Depleted Uranium Munitions Study Act of 2005 has 21 original co-sponsors, all Democrats, including: Reps. Charles Rangel, Pete Stark, Sherrod Brown, Peter DeFazio, Maurice Hinchey, Raul Grijalva, Jan Schakowsky, Robert Wexler, Sam Farr, Tammy Baldwin, Robert Andrews, Bob Filner, Jay Inslee, Jose Serrano, Lynn Woolsey, Earl Blumenauer, Bart Stupak, Mike Honda, Tom Udall, Barney Frank and Ed Markey.

snip---
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/053005X.shtml
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3756214
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:33 PM
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30. Yet another litmus test FAILED by the press...
Every journalism student must have studied this historical event. Right??!!! What is on TV is revolting. They are not talking about the issue if historical importance, they are talking tabloid gossipy crap BS slant.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:44 PM
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31. That is all most of them due now, it is obscene...
Edited on Tue May-31-05 05:47 PM by hiley
I am going to try to catch what Robert Redford says, however.
Damn, I hate hearing Chris Matthews speak..
edit to add this below...
This line from the "newsletter" Domanic wrote...
We finish up 7 pm with none other than the "G-Man" himself, G. Gordon
Liddy on the Deep Throat revelation..

The "G-Man" oh god, liddy makes my skin crawl...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:04 PM
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32. kick
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