Wow! Bush proposes a radical use for Social Security!

[BurtWorm]

From the news conference today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/31/politics/31TEXT-BUSH.html?pagewanted=print


"And so I'm not surprised that there is a reluctance and I'm not surprised that there has been some initial push-back. But all that does is make me want to continue to travel and remind people that Congress has a duty to come up with some solutions.


"They're beginning to have hearings in the Congress. The Ways and Means and the Finance Committee in the Senate are going to have hearings. There are some interesting ideas that have been proposed. We've proposed some interesting ideas.


"One idea is make sure that low-income seniors get benefits such that, when they retire, they're not in poverty."


:sarcasm:

[CottonBear]

1. Doh!

:eyes:

[SammyBlue]

33. Well, you can't put the fart back in the elephant

He said it. . .the Republican asshats need to accept it because King Pompous Fool is infalible in their eyes.

See what happens when he's not given the questions before hand to have his brain (Karl Rove) tailor make Chimpy McCokespoon's answers?

Doh is right!

[ooglymoogly]

38. laugh out loud!!!!!!!!

[smoogatz]

2. And people say he's a moron.

Statement: "One idea is make sure that low-income seniors get benefits such that, when they retire, they're not in poverty."

Subtext: But the rest of you can go fuck yourselves. Get off the government tit! Sink or swim, losers!!

[BurtWorm]

4. You nailed the subtext, allright!

:eyes:

[Mnemosyne]

10. Who cares if they live impoverished

up until then? %##@@^%*()*&&%# idiot!

A living wage would help them be less dependent on SS in the future. You can not save or invest if you can't even buy socks.

[earth mom]

12. Forget about socks! Try paying the electric bill when you are living

as the working poor! :mad:

I'd love to see * live as we all do in the "real world" for a month or two! He'd run crying home to mama!

[Kipling]

21. That didn't work out too well.

Bush Life Story: Once he graduated from the university he so richly deserved to have entered, Shrubbie got given a company. But Shrubbie screwed the company up. Shrubbie cried. Daddy got him a new one. Shrubbie screwed the company up. Shrubbie cried. Daddy got him a new one. Shrubbie screwed the company up. Shrubbie cried. Daddy got him a new one. Shrubbie got given a country. Shrubbie screwed the country up. But he didn't care so that was OK.

[Mnemosyne]

22. I was the working poor until 4 years ago, You are right.

You need good socks and shoes to keep up with most of the slave wage jobs! LOL :hi:

[flordehinojos]

14. but he also speaks as if low income seniors are a drag and he is resigned

to allow them--at least in words in his present speech--to, "have benefits such that, when they retire, they're not in poverty."

but never trust a lying bush bastard boy--never, ever trust such a lying bush bastard boy!

[smoogatz]

17. The neocons' idea is to turn SS into a welfare program

that only pays benefits to the poor--who of course have no political clout, and are everybody's favorite whipping boy. If they succeed, it's just a matter of time before SS disappears altogether. Let Granny eat cat food!

[unhappycamper]

20. Cat food my ass. Starve Granny! Die you drag on humanity! n/t

[flordehinojos]

31. that is exactly how the bushes think!

[TalkingDog]

46. Why should I waste my lovely mind thinking about (that)? Lv. Babs n/t

[ooglymoogly]

40. some where over the rainbow....blue birds fly

some where over the rainbow....old people just die.... and get the fuck out of my hair

[democrat_patriot]

3. Makes sense to me.

Change it so that it does what it was meant to do. They don't call him cuckoo-banannas for nothin'!

[smoogatz]

5. It was meant to pay a decent benefit

to everyone who pays in, not just low-income folks.

[BurtWorm]

6. Because everyone in retirement is at risk of becoming low income.

Especially in this nation of spenders and borrowers.

[smoogatz]

8. Partly.

But also, theoretically anyway, it's your money, plus a bit of compound interest. As FDR envisioned it, SS is already a private account, invested for you by the government in risk-free bonds. It's NOT a welfare program--it's YOUR money.

[BurtWorm]

9. True.

Nevertheless it is about "security." There's nothing shameful about that.

[sandnsea]

26. NO, it's an insurance program

Insurance Insurance Insurance

Designed to provide an adequate benefit against poverty due to old age. And later due to disability or the death of a provider.

Insurance. NOT an investment account of any sort.

[MichiganVote]

7. Here's an idea Bush, go screw yourself

[lonestarnot]

28. And here's another in case you didn't get that on FUCK OFF

BUSHITLER!

[BurtWorm]

11. Bush thinks we shouldn't pass a burden onto the next generation.

"And now people are beginning to see the realities of Social Security and the fact that we're about to pass on a huge burden to a young generation of Americans; a burden, by the way, which doesn't have to be passed on."


Which is why he wants to make the tax cuts permanent. :eyes:

[denverbill]

15. And spend 1/2 trillion bringing 'democracy' to Iraq.

Buy hey, why should rich people sacrifice their money while our soldiers are sacrificing their lives?

[tsuki]

24. "a burden, by the way, which doesn't have to be passed on."

Unlike the burden of the huge deficit, which will be passed on. Thank you, don't tax and spend, spend, spend Republicans.

[La Coliniere]

13. Gilded Age ...

here we come. It's back to the future time.
Wasn't what he stated the primary purpose of Social Security in the first place? What an embarrassment. It boggles the mind.

[Gormy Cuss]

16. Subtext: they won't be living in poverty

once we gut Medicare. why waste all that money on old people's medical care? I hear that they get real expensive in that last month of life.

[confludemocrat]

18. yet more evidence: he is cracked, nuts, crazy and anyone who buys this

is similarly crazy.

[clydefrand]

19. Heard Rush the pill lush say today, "I hate to tell you this folks,

but Social Security is just Welfare." He was just talking earlier about his $250 million-dollar salary. How can God justify allowing that man to breathe???

[lonestarnot]

29. rains on the just and unjust.

[Flagrante]

34. Could this be the allusive proof

that there is no God?

[HamstersFromHell]

23. So I suppose his next move is to lower the poverty level...

to $4000 a year so he can claim "No one lives in poverty with SS now that I 'fixed' it."

[NightOwwl]

25. Uh...excuse me Mr. pResident, but....

isn't this one of problems Social Security was designed to deal with, and is doing so successfully? YOU STUPID FUCKING MORON!

[geckosfeet]

27. Our president is an asshat of the vilest ilk.

[sakabatou]

30. The sheer stupidty is making my head...

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:

[in_cog_ni_to]

32. G-d, Just shoot me

and put me out of my misery! That man is the most ignorant asshole to walk the planet.

[angryxyouth]

35. Bush has already solved the SS problem,

by doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming, and allowing coal burning electric plants to fire up again. By speeding up nuclear proliferation, and by pissing off the ones who have proliferated. By leaving our nations chemical industry unprotected from terrorists. By ignoring a report by scientists in 91 countries who have said that we will squander the remaining global resources of this planet in about fifty years. By not being proactive against the avian flu. By sending this country into such financial dept that there will be no assistance programs for this nations poor. In fifty years SS will be the last thing on any body's mind.

[Inland]

36. "But we're going to go for the OTHER idea--of letting them die in the dark

after taking all the money. Heh, heh, heh."

[baldguy]

37. See? The GOP is the party of IDEAS!

[whistle]

39. Bush says he wants Americans to realize that Social Security is ...

...a problem. The only problem with social security is what Bush has done to it in the last 54 months, spending every dime of social security surplus on tax cuts for the wealthiest 5% of Americans and issuing Federal debt notes to the social security trust fund which he now does not now want to ever pay back. Instead, he wants to borrow more money to pay future social security benefits and add that to the national debt burden which the middle class will have to pay through increased taxes. It's all Bushit!

[ooglymoogly]

42. i mean get real people i'm the prez. there is a problem here...

for you folks who depend on ss....go figure...i mean you are dead folks....i mean why should you folks get anything that you have been saving for all your lives, when my people need it, do you hear they neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it, so give it over....just die for gods sake.

[FreedomAngel82]

41. No shit

Isn't that what SS is SUPPOSED to do? He's such a moron!!! How can ANYBODY take him seriously? My God. I'm going to go laugh my ass off now.

[Joey Liberal]

43. Bush is an evil prick n/t

[IowaGuy]

44. Stupefyingly astounding.....where....oh.... where does this

guy come up with ideas like that? Such a creative intellect, how lucky we are to have somebody as smart and compassionate as him to lead our nation.

Wow. it's just left me speechless (sometimes I wonder if that acid I dropped back in the 70's isn't coming back to haunt me, this is just too tripped out to be real....)

[Guckert]

45. Quick, someone tell FDR of this great idea.....DUH

[cornermouse]

47. The plan is:

to milk seniors out of all their money and assets, put them first into the low income level and then eventually into the poverty level. All those words he used about passing wealth on to your kids? That was for him and his buddies, not us peons.

[B Calm]

48. The cons are salivating over millions of desperate baby boomers

to hire as cheap labor. Thats there social security plan in a nut shell!

[nonono]

49. They would probably qualify for food stamps

He is not increasing the amount for the poor. He is leaving it alone and decreasing those who make over $20,000/$25,000.

The reason he is leaving the poor alone is, if he didn't, they would probably qualify for food stamps and other things.

[Batgirl]

50. Bush's SS plan to dovetail with War on Vermin