Will Isabel Cost Bush? The Money they are Promised....may not come!

[KoKo]

What Chimp promises.....never materializes......and, I give Chimp credit, unlike Poppy who didn't deal with Hurricane Hugo.....Chimp had the "phone call from Poppy who said...."OMG, You better get on top of this one, son, because they blamed me for Hugo....cause I didn't get into that helicopter to view that thing untill people were really mad!"
(my total paraphrase of Poppy....but it's my memory of how he dealt with Hugo)!

So, Chimp/Ridge goes all out.....and promises people many $$$$$$$$'s for their loss of busineses and homes....but I know from Hurricane Hugo that what was "promised under Poppy wasn't delivered" and I know that "Little Chimp" doesn't have to nickles to scrape together in the Federal Budget....so his "Hurricane Relief" program....will be like his "No Child Left Behind" program.......

NO HURRICANE VICTIM......WILL BE COMPENSATED......UNLESS OUR INSURANCE ADJUSTERS DEEM THAT YOU HAVE PAID IN! And, that might be the "DISCONNECT" that does him in.....like it did Poppy with Hurricane Hugo.

We will have to see......but there's NO FED MONEY LEFT to pay these people....and STATES.....for this massive amount of devastation!

[sham]

1. You're right, could be very damaging to the little emperor.

But for the sake of the people who are affected, I truly hope he comes through for them this time. *crossing my fingers but not holding my breath*

[Cha]

2. Yeah! Even worse that bush went out and promised them the

bucks...they will remember that more..

After Hurricane Iniki on Sept.11, 1992...we got well compenstated from FEMA for our damage. :-)

[Brucey]

3. But what the Chimp says is more important than what he does.

He can have a photo-op with people hit by the storm and say that he's going to help them. Average sheeple will love the little bastard.

[auburnlib]

4. the damage is terrible

But the federal government should not be spending money on this.

[Divernan]

8. Guess you better move to a Banana Republic.

Every civilized country provides assistance to its citizens to recover from natural disasters. There are limits and guidelines, of course. For example, people live in a flood plain and lose their home to a flood . They are advised that If they use the money to rebuild in the SAME spot, and a second flood strikes, they get Zip from the government. So they better get comprehensive private flood insurance, if they can find it.

[Divernan]

5. There are FEMA guidelines, not Bush guidelines.

As long as a state's governor declares a state of emergency, FEMA can go in, and has for this hurricane, for example in Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina and D.C. to provide assistance. Part of this assistance is financial reimbursement for property losses sustained by businesses and individuals. There are very specific formulas applied, and the amounts claimed are verified , but the moneys are paid.
So exactly and specifically and with citations, please, identify what you refer to when you say, "what was promised under Poppy wasn't delivered." There is no such thing as a "Presidential relief" program. FEMA is a federal relief program. If funds are exhausted by mega disasters, it's up to Congress to authorize more. It will increase the deficit, of course, but that's life in these United States under the Bush regime.

[auburnlib]

7. one problem

The average joe doesn't know that. If they aren't compensated then they will blame their senator, their congressman, and their president, even though it isn't the governments job. Did they make the hurricane?

[Divernan]

9. You have obviously never lived in a community hit by a flood,

hurricane or other natural disaster. Believe me, EVERYONE is advised by their local government officials where to go to file for assistance. I have seen hundreds of people lined up waiting to sit down with FEMA reps to fill out their forms. The local governments are very aggressive in pursuing all relief on behalf of their residents because the continued survival of their communities depends upon it..

No, the governments don't make natural disasters, at least directly, although Bush's actions re the Kyoto Treaty and weakening enforcement of regs re all kinds of pollution contribute to natural disasters and weather extremes in the long run. But governments choose to assist businesses, individuals and communities struck by such disasters. I suggest you run for office on your apparent platform of "Screw you, Joe Average American" and see how many votes you get. I mean, even though that is Bush's agenda, he was not stupid enough to run on it.

[KoKo]

15. Divernan.....I've lived through more than you desribe...you don't get the

money...unless you are big business: Hog Farm, Glaxo-Smith Welcome," Dupont, whatever.

Those folks who were watching "Falwell" waiting to "deliver them" in upper NC, VA.....and even in Maryland....will be waiting with the "tin cup empty" for a long.....long ......time!

[Don_G]

6. I Read A Month Or Two Ago

That FEMA had pretty much shot its budget this year. I hope that's not the case because it will then take an act of Congress to approve the funding for Isabel and create an additional delay.

If its true, then ShrubCo has aout 10 million people to answer to plus another 750,000 or so business owners who will want an explanation.

The term SOL comes to mind....

[Divernan]

11. Sorry that all my FEMA sources are out in the field right now

or I would check out the numbers, and how long it typically takes Congress to approve more funds.

[Don_G]

13. I Could Be Wrong

I'm not sure, but it happened to stick in my mind. I hope I'm wrong for everyone's sake.

[KoKo]

23. Divernan! They approve funds but it's "Smoke and Mirrors" ...Strings

attached....big time .......long strings....the wording of the bills is "claims that are unfunded by 'claimants' basic 'insurance providers' under Subclause B proviso's...will be subject to the limits of their deductable..plus..the forms filled out under 'Section E' of the Federal Income Tax provisions stating...that this person was under the guidlines of the 'shore/waterfront property/Flood Plane Revisions...of Statute #1156 of the Federal Guidelines stipulating that only XXXX amounts of remuneration will be provided to said recipients or claimants under Statute XXXX1K that Federal matching funds will compensate those with claims under $500.000 dollars in total coast for the value of replacement of "outside structure" ...limited to siding and exterior walls of said structure...according to PART B of the Federal Building Codes Issued in year 2002..compliant with the Federal Guidlines of Act 442 of US Congress in compliance with Amendment 4421 of the Senate Amendment to Bill 44482 ...stating that No Federal matching monies will be given by FEMA/Department of Homeland Security to any Claimants until the Federal Code # 2221 has been satified, and that all standing provisions of your individual Insurance Provider have been satisfied, under Section 2221 of the Federal Guidance for Disaster Relief Bill of 12003 have been identified and satisfied.

I used to work for a legal firm........and my above gobbledegook is taken from that experience.....None of it is true and everything is fantasy....but that's what the Government will give these people when they go to file claims after they find that their insurance companies aren't going to cover what it will take to rebuild and get back to their normal lives after losing food, housing and in many cases salaray losses from closures of businesses......

It's not good....but it's what my experience has taught me to understand goes on after major weather disasters....:-(

[KoKo]

19. Fires in the Southwest, Floods in Pa, Ice Storms in SE, Floods in Midwest,

and Drought in their "Agri-Business States." Since Chimp has been "squatting" in the WH....we've had major US weather disasters....and they've covered it up....with little CNN reports here and there..and little $$'s here and there.

This one hits at Alexandria,Va, Georgetown, DC (Heard one of the big Foreign Embassy's was flooded and had to cancel a big Bush UN "pre-meeting" and Baltimore, Virginia Beach, Richmond (Home of BIGTIME RW Repug donors, and then "Outer Banks of NC" where many Senators/House Members have "second homes," (believe me on this...I know they have homes there) and the other "interiors" where the "poor folks" have homes.....says to me they have a BIG DEAL on their hands covering up this one!

[Evanstondem]

10. He'll just print some more money

Bush is trying to turn us into a second class economy, so why wouldn't he adopt Third World economic policies?

[Divernan]

12. This will mean more pressure to rescind tax cuts.

NT

[ShaneGR]

14. Hey Koko, great thread, you're right on the money, BUT.....

I'm still pissed about that not having a star next to my name business. Sorry, I'm just a college student. Don't have a lot of cash.

I ask for an apology. Then we'll be cool.

[KoKo]

18. If you're a college student....you're excused.....I remember those days!

LOL's......and Peace and :-)'s to you!

[ComerPerro]

16. May not come?

It WILL NOT come. He will do what he did with NYC. He will promise them some amount, then lie and said he only promised half that, then only give them half of that. So they will get some money, but only a quarter of what they are promised.

[Cha]

17. Oh you mean like "Aids In Africa" and "No Child Left Behind" and all the

other shyte they LIE about but don't deliver!

[KoKo]

20. He has a year and a half more......he's down to wire..this could nudge

many folks against him......when he doesn't deliver...which he wont!

[rocktivity]

21. The Money they are Promised....doesn't exist!

He's already looted the treasury and gave it to his friends. He can't give out what he hasn't got.


rocknation

[Jane Eyre]

22. North Carolina and Virginia

Could these two states go blue in 2004?

North Carolina is still reeling from Hurricane Floyd in 1999. Bill Clinton was president and Jim Hunt was governor. The folks out east got help. They will remember who helped and who didn't if (when) Bush does not come through.

Virginia elected a Democratic governor last time around. The folks who were waiting for Pat Robertson to pray away Hurricane Isabel got fooled. But you had to hear Pat Robertson try to spin his way out of this one on the 700 Club Friday! He was rejoicing that it was not as bad as it could have been. Spin, Pat, Spin!!!

This one hits home...literally. If Bush does not come through with emergency aid, people will remember.

[Zech Marquis]

24. having just gotten over the hurican emyself

I would have appreciated a short visit, or a radio message, or something personal. Nope, I didn't hear or see shit from any Federal person! Governor Warner did very well, NC Governer Easley did well, the tstae and local people did well...but NO ONE on the fedral level! And I know that some locla reas like the Va Beach ocenafront homes and parts of Norfolk got hammered! Same with NC, so * has lost votes already with this aftermath.

Not that I was going to vote for the bastard * or anything, but you know Big Dog would have done something to ease our minds a little...

[KoKo]

25. I know Zech....his Poppy was the same..they don't have compassion....and

that's probably why they must have been "yukking it up" when Rove told little Chimp to say "I'm a Compassionate Conservative" as the "buzzword" or the 2000 Campaign.

His father never visted anyone and only flew over SC in the worst hurricane damage in memor....after almost a month!

Poppy was the one who said he lacked the "vision" thing and then brought in Jim Baker to make it look like he had a "vision" thing. I'm waiting to see who the little chimp brings in to give him the "compassionate thing."

He's a total jerk. Never even calls families of soldieres who have died in Iraq....(his excuse would be .....well there are too many, now) and he never acknowledges anything. He's a non-compassionate LOOSER.....

Blech!

[KoKo]

26. Anyone see CNN's report that people are standing in lines to buy water in

Virginia & Maryland and want to know where FEMA is? Some feel that they should be given the water rather than have to stand in long lines outside a convenience store to purchase it when the only alternative is to boil it.

Blitzer asked the FEMA director why supplies are not coming to people who need it. FEMA guy said they aren't talking to the proper "person in the command chain....and that there are adequate 'assets' to distribute to people who needed them." Sounded like military talk to me.......sort of like what they must be telling the Iraqi's right now.

The Mayor of Baltimore complained he hadn't been able to get help from FEMA and when the FEMA guy said he didn't believe that....Wolf said "are you saying sir that the Mayor of Baltimore is not being honest in his assessments?"

FEMA guy said, "No, but he is not talking to the correct person in the agency." (not exact quote, but pretty close)

Sounds like many people are still without power and water. And, this is going to be very costly.......

It's a developing story......I think.....