43% of registered voters would vote or lean toward Clark. 47% for Bush

[NNN0LHI]

With 10% undecided. And 45 percent, said they had never heard of the retired general before. And this after less than one week in the race? Yikes! Aren't these the kind of numbers Hillary was putting up against Bush?

Don

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030920/pl_afp/us_bush_iraq_poll&cid=1521&ncid=1473

Bush's approval rating on Iraq falls below 50 percent: poll

<snip>In a test election against Bush, the Newsweek poll found that 43 percent of registered voters would vote for Clark or lean toward Clark, compared with 47 percent who said they would vote for Bush or lean toward the president.

Despite this, a sizeable chunk of all those polled, 45 percent, said they had never heard of the retired general before.

The poll canvassed 1,001 adults between September 18 and 19 and had a three-percentage-point margin of error.

[ShaneGR]

1. The biggest quote

Despite this, a sizeable chunk of all those polled, 45 percent, said they had never heard of the retired general before.

Imagine what the numbers will look like once they know who he is, this is good.

[EagleEye]

3. I like Claark OK, but . . .

even those who voted for Clark in this poll do not know his positions, he doesn't even know them. They are evolving. He hasn't even given any domestic issue speeches yet.

[EagleEye]

2. Clark is making a splash...

Let's see what washes up on shore.

[Frances]

4. It sounds as though Clark is the generic Democrat

that voters favored in earlier polls.

When the people get to know Clark, some will fall away, and some will stay.

The big news is that Bush is now the unpopular president.

[Kahuna]

8. Yessssssss! You are correct! Clark is the generic dem..

that's what we Clarkies have been saying.

Yet, some are still saying ANYBODY can beat bush. Sorry, not.

No candidate without national security credentials will unseat a wartime president. It just doesn't happen that way.

[jonnyblitz]

5. wow...that is amazing!!

I wonder how the GOP talking heads will spin this...

[Rose Siding]

6. This poll was taken different ways

The Dems v Bush question:

Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates. Sept. 18-19, 2003. N=855 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 4 (total sample).

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm

The Dems v Dems question was asked of 377 voters with a 6pt MOE

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04dem.htm

and only the Bush approval poll has the 3 pt MOE with 1001 respondants.

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

None of the articles are differentiating at all. Is Polling Report not reliable?

[Brucey]

7. It's great news, but it's still disappointing to see chimpy doing so well,

man, who is supporting this idiot?

[Pepperbelly]

9. I think it is clear that ...

at most, he has most of the people who voted for him last time.

[NNN0LHI]

10. Remember when we used to be the 10%ers? Boy that was lonely n/t

[Pepperbelly]

13. feels good, doesn't it?

I love the smell of melting-down republicans in the morning.

:D

[sspiderjohn]

11. What does Bush have to do for people to see him for what he is!

Maybe blow up the Statue of Liberty, I don't know . . . I just can't believe this administration's record earns even 1% support with the American people, I just can't believe it.

[mlawson]

12. Hmm. I wonder what the DNC has in mind for Clark???

VP?? Or, let Clark and Edwards fight it out for VP??? I wonder what Clark was told, by those top Dems, to cause him to run???

I still am virtually certain that the nominee will be Kerry, for reasons I have written here many times. But Gen Clark's entry is making me very very curious.

[NNN0LHI]

15. Kerry getting the nomination would not surprise me in the least

Not even a little bit. It wouldn't bother me either.

Don

[diplomats]

16. I'm fine with it, too

In the Newsweek poll, Kerry only trails Chimpy by 5 percentage points, about the same as Clark.

[Kahuna]

14. Clark beats bush in the south. That's

a good thing right? </sarcasm>

[Jackson4Gore]

17. Actually Gore is the only Democrat post 9/11 to tie Bush

http://algoresupport.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=newsalerts&action=display&num=1063427714

[zeemike]

18. I am skeptical

Just how much of this is push polling? Who did this poll?
It sounds a little fishy to me when 45% never herd of him and everyone else is for him

[Pepperbelly]

20. good for ... now

do you actually have some evidence of that or do you know some fact that the rest of us do not or are just saying that?

[zeemike]

21. Well consider this question

asked just after Clark announced.

"Now I'm going to name 10 Democrats in the race for president. After I read you their names, tell me which ONE you would most like to see nominated as the Democratic Party's presidential candidate in 2004. Here are the choice .

Now if you were one of the 60 percent that could not name one of the nine candidates and asked this question the only name you would recognize is Clark because he had just been all over the news.
So timing and the way a question is asked make a difference.

[Pepperbelly]

22. nope ...

the other candidates have all been putting their mugs out there as hard and fast as they could and Edwards announced during the polling period as well.

Good theory if it could be confined to a vacum but it cannot. See what it looks like in a week or two and I bet Clark is trending up.

[zeemike]

23. Well who did the 60% picked then?

A Random name?

And if my theory is correct the polls will trend upward for Clark as the media promotes him as the only one that can beat the flight suit.
Am I just paranoid because I feel that money can buy any poll results that you want? And polls can be used to make public opinion.

[Pepperbelly]

24. From what I have seen ...

people complain about polls when the results they want are not presented but seldom complain when they are.

So who are you supporting? Be truthful, now! :D

[zeemike]

25. I support Dean

And I don’t think the poll pushing is going to work as well as you think because Dean will bring out the unlikely voter that is not being polled.
It is the unlikely voter that will bring a win for the Democrats not the likely.

[Pepperbelly]

26. my point is ...

what do you say when Dean sits on top? Do you still denigrate the methodolgy or do you, perhaps, silently enjoy it or even perhaps, crow about it?

Do you even speculate about the methodology when Dean is on top?

[zeemike]

27. I have never quoted a poll

To show that my candidate could win. If Dean wins it will be because he has a plan, a vision, and policies that resonate with the people.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. If Dean Wins It Will Be Because He Got More Votes Than The Other Guy

Polls are helpful in that respect...

[Piperay]

19. WOW, I'm starting

to feel good about America! :thumbsup:

[uptohere]

29. and its 48-43 for Kerry, 52-38 for Dean, 48-45 Gore & 50-43 Hilly

so what ? Just continues to show that Gore has the only real shot since they're afraid to ask about Edwards.

And its only one poll.