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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:19 AM
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Never thought Mark Felt would stoop to this?
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 07:19 AM by wndycty
Former Nixon advisor Chuck Colson as well as Pat Buchanan claiming Mark Felt has something to be ashamed of.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:23 AM
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1. they would say that
turds from the nixon toilet are all coming forward floating the dead nixon as a hero and any of his detractors criminals.

after all these years, it's laughable
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:23 AM
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2. What would they be expected to say. I wish we had a media now that
would report these types of abuse by our gov.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:25 AM
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3. Is such a reaction from those two traitors to America really surprising?
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:25 AM
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4. Pundits saying over and over, "Follow the Money"
saying family doing this for money....even if true, so what? He was a whistle-blower who fought corruption, no matter the motive. I think there will be a backlash against the Nixon defenders in the media. The American public has been appropriately programmed to think Nixon and his cronies were crooked, and the trashing of Deep Throat will backfire.

I find that the pundits (Buchanan et al) that are decrying "The means don't justify the end" are particularly hypocritical.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:25 AM
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5. Loyalty
is more important to these type of people than abuse of power and the criminal wrongdoing. It is similiar mindset to the mafia.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:30 AM
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6. Listening to all those jerks whining on every TV show last night
was very enlightening to me. They seem to think "honor" among thieves is more important that duty to country. These guys were trying to throw a national election and they want to bitch because one of the "gang" ratted them out. The think saving the Republican party more important than ridding the country of a truly evil cabal.

Same method they are using today to smear anyone who speaks truth to power about the mess in Iraq, the economy, judges, etc. They are the American mafia and I hope someone is guarding Felt very, very closely.

Somehow in their narrow little worlds, somebody telling the American people we are in a crazy unjust war killing hundreds of thousands is un-American. Also, helping to overthrow a corrupt government is un-American. What exactly does being a patriotic mean to this jerks?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:31 AM
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7. Mark Felt will be subjected to extensive personal attacks by neocons ...
... and Nixonites. Anyone rational who remembers those days would think it beyond laughable that Felt should have attempted to "work within the system" (as Colson postures) in presenting evidence of corruption - the corruption in John Mitchell's (in)Justice Department was extreme. After all, how the hell do they think Felt even knew about the corruption if it wasn't already being covered up?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:59 AM
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14. Good Catch T/N.
The Justice Dept. (Colson's "system") was where the actual problem was! One cannot stay within the system when the system is the source of the corruption. That's dumber than dirt. Figures it would come out of "saved" Colson.

Lots of fake contrition heard the last day and half. These folks aren't sorry for what they did. They're sorry they got caught.
The Professor
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:26 AM
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19. Fake contrition, indeed. It's clear their intended "audience" is ...
... abysmally ignorant of recent history. Colson's squirming and dissembling (yes, I know the meaning of the word) was particularly loathsome. It was the logical and moral equivalent of castigating a WW2 POW for passing secret notes to the International Red Cross rather than working within the German Stalag "system."
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:32 AM
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20. We Fully Agree (eom)
The Professor
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:32 AM
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8. Colson, Buchanan, and Liddy melt down on TV...
AND we learn who Deep Throat is.

Win-win.

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:33 AM
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9. I heard that Liddy is going ballistic over Felt's revelation.
What a turd Liddy is. Obnly in today's America could a convicted felon have a radio show to use as a platform to slam the Clintons and Democrats in general.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:34 AM
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10. Why in the hell would anyone ask THUGS...
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 07:34 AM by TwoSparkles
...their opinion of the man who exposed their corruption and lies????

Chuck Colson did time for his role in Watergate. Buchanan was a Nixon speech writer at the time, and obviously privy to the corruption.

I guess thugs don't change through the years.

It completely blows me away that these bastards are disparaging Felt. Exposing corruption and the poisoning of American institutions (the White House, the FBI) were heroic efforts. My God! Buchanan, and especially Colson, should be humbled when they speak about Watergate. They're the thugs at the epicenter of all of this!

Felt cared about his country. He cared about the FBI and he was the only person with a conscience who had the guts to do the right thing!

NOW...the criminals who perpetrated the acts are given air time and are allowed to rip this man apart?

These sick people learned nothing through the years. Their indignant, self-serving, contemptible ways--which caused Watergate--are still as entrenched as ever.

Damn!! What a bunch of evil, amoral cretins these people are!
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gman16 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:17 AM
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18. Felt the Hero?
Before we turn Felt into a saint of all who cared for his country, we need to remember that Nixon wanted to transfer control of the FBI to the White House. He did not trust the agency, and wanted to use it much like Hoover did.
When Hoover died, Nixon sent one of his men over to the agency to confiscate Hoover's personal files, he was politely rejected and that began the attempt to usurp control of the FBI.
Considering L. Patrick Gray VOLUNTARILY handed the Senate some bombshell information. (I'm talking about when his confirmation hearings were all but adjourned, he did the 'oh by the way, did you know that...'), and Felt being you know who, it would seem to me that the FBI played a large part in the framing of the downfall.
Today's CIA might be close to that point with Bush.
We can only hope.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:36 AM
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11. Colson talks about stooping low?
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 07:54 AM by Wickerman
The man who has made his living off God since he served time for Watergate?

This Chuck Colson?
"Just one day after the attack Chuck Colson spoke amazing words of insight and prophecy while chaos reigned. His clear voice defined a biblical course of action. when public figures couldn't, Colson cited the biblical mandate for waging war. While experts debated the rules of a war on terrorism, Coldon quoted the Just War Doctrine developed by Augustine in the 4th century. Recorded September 12, 2001, this audio presentation has a frightening immediacy and an honest reality. Colson shoots straight."
How Now Shall We Live in the Face of Terrorism? (America Responds Series) AUDIO BOOK


How the Decline of the Work Ethic Is Hurting Your Family and Future and What You Can Do about It. This book urges us to reclaim the ideal of the "good old American work ethic" to ensure our survival as a nation. What America needs is an infusion of the timeless values that it was built on--hard work, thrift, and integrity.
-Why America Doesn't Work.

or

How Now Shall We Live?
International prison ministry leader Colson, most famous for his role in the Watergate scandal and his subsequent conversion to Christianity, has co-written with Pearcey what he believes to be the most important book of his career. Picking up where the late American theologian Francis Schaeffer's book and film series How Then Shall We Live? left off, Colson attempts to explain why American culture has become "post-Christian" and what must be done to "rebuild it with a biblical worldview." He believes that Christian salvation is not just personal but "cosmological," redeeming all of creation. Colson's work is a mixed bag. When he outlines his theology, shares personal stories or explains the various Supreme Court cases that touch upon religion's role in American life, he is thoughtful and articulate, yet the work suffers from a narrow perspective and an overdependence on the opinions of a few others, especially Schaeffer. As the author of a book that ostensibly engages recent developments in science, art and philosophy from a Christian point of view, Colson too easily dismisses opposing views without expressing a full understanding of them (Stephen Hawking's time theories amount to "little more than fantasy," for example). Such an approach to humanist ideas makes this a sermon strictly for the evangelical choir, although Colson intends the book to inspire debate in the wider culture and Tyndale is launching a $250,000 marketing campaign to sell it. (Sept.)
Copyright 1999 Reed Business Information, Inc.


as they said inthe 70's - Don't Buy Books from Crooks


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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:39 AM
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12. Don't forget Gush Pfleghmball!
The Oxycontin Kid was going on yesterday about how Felt is actually a traitor and crimminal...

Rove sure has 'em all singing off the same page, doesn't he?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:48 AM
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13. First of all Chuck Colson is a convicted felon for his role in the....
...Watergate burglaries, so any finger pointing that man does about the shame and guilt of others is totally hypocritical.

As for Pat Buchanan, he was Richard Nixon's speech writer and heavily involved in campaign strategies for the Committee to Re-elect the President (the so-called CREEP). Nixon attempted to do in 1968 to 1975 what the neo-conservative federalists Dominionist cabal is now trying to do, install an imperial presidency and fascist corporate republic in this country. Pat Buchanan supported that effort in the Nixon campaign and throughout the thirty years since then.

Why does Pat Buchanan not come out and condemn the actions which lead to the Watergate cover-up and put his effort and energies into exposing those responsible for the Watergate crimes instead of demanding retribution against those who exposed these criminals. Mark Felt is a hero who should have been able to walk out into the sunlight when Richard Nixon was forced out of the presidency in disgrace and all of his henchman were prosecuted, found guilty and placed in prison. But instead, he had to remain in hiding for over thirty years, not because of any shame or guilt, but because of fear that his life and reputation would be ruined along with the lives of his family and loved ones.

Fuck Chuck Colson and Pat Buchanan! They are the worst kinds of scoundrels who cover up acts of evil and total self interest while wrapping themselves in the American flag claiming to be patriots.

These men and others like them are the very worst kind of people that America produces. The fact that they are allowed to spew their veil poisonous venom of lies and corroding thoughts and distortions at all, speaks to the strength and power of the United States Constitution which allows them to speak freely and openly. Yet, these same men would deny others from having the same right to speak the truth.
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MichiDem Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:01 AM
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15. What he did probably was criminal
but so was hiding Jews from the Nazis during WWII.

It had to be done and I respect him for it. I sure hope the Repubs don't try to drag this old man's ass in to court now.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:22 PM
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22. What laws did he break?
Just asking....
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MichiDem Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:27 PM
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23. Trying to remember how it was put
on the radio. Something about giving out privleged info or something.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:15 AM
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16. Fine words from a Nazi and a Criminal.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:16 AM
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17. wndycty I've got quotes here (the best I could scribble out)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:45 AM
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21. These people do not even have the right to vote in places. Why
to we pay them any attention whatsoever?
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