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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:19 PM
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Supporting troops = supporting war - A RANT
I am so sick of the false patriotism in this country. The meaningless mantras, the shallow symbols, the amazing hypocrisy. The nationalism, the condescending comments. The narrow-mindedness, the cold cruelty. Just absolutely, positively SICK of it.

It's nothing new, of course. It surrounds us and has for quite some time now. I've gotten into heated discussions about this, both online and off. I've burnt bridges with "friends". I've ranted more times than I can count to like-minded family members. But as time wears on, the anger just builds to the point where I feel like I could explode. Everywhere I go, the bumper stickers and magnets stare me in the face until I'm literally tingling with outrage. If I watch the news (rare these days), in addition to all of the other crap they're spewing, that hypocritical sentiment is bound to rear it's ugly false head. Then cue me going apeshit... AT THE TV. That's sane and useful, no? But really, it's either that or spontaneously combust.

There are many reasons why I am against the war in Iraq. Many of them are factual or historically based. Most of my pre-war predictions have sadly come to pass - and this brings me zero comfort, because there is no joy in being right in hindsight.

But one of the big reasons why I am against this war is because I CARE ABOUT THE TROOPS. I don't think they should be used as cannon fodder, and I don't think that we should put these people who have committed their lives and sacrificed so much to this nation in harms way unless it's absolutely necessary. As it is, even in peace time, enlisted folk make shit money, work long hours and are separated from their families often. When they retire or leave the military, they're treated like annoyances, like parasites. Enlisted people, more often than not, are from poor or working class backgrounds who had few options in their situation or hometowns. Most are kids, 18-19, when they first join. Some have started, or are starting, families and are attracted by the good health benefits. The GI bill is another major attraction. Many who I know personally we're on the wrong track with their life and felt the only way to get on the right one was to leave their hometown and benefit from the discipline the military teaches. Some are naive, some buy all the bull about it being "just like a regular job" from the recruiters. All of them want to serve their country. But one thing is for sure - they are just trying to better their lives the best way they know how.

I know this first hand. My husband served in the Army active duty from 1993-1999. We married while he was in AIT (the training school you go to after Basic Training to learn your MOS, or job, for the unaware). Our married life began with the military and both of our children were born on a military base. These soldiers we spent years with were our friends, their wives were our friends, our children played together. Most were NOT Republicans nor did they wish for war in the least in my experience - don't buy the hype. They're just regular people, doing a noble job for shit pay because SOMEONE has to do it. I met some of the most amazing people in my life in those years - you cannot box these people into a mold or lump them altogether anymore than you can do that with any diverse group of people.

I care about these people. I would care even if I couldn't relate, because I'm not a sociopath. But I think that because we lived that life the empathy and concern is on a very deep emotional level with me. My heart breaks when I see my husband read news reports about dead troops with tears in his eyes or searching through the list of the dead hoping an old friend's name won't pop up. When I see the spouses and children of the soldiers stationed in Iraq I feel like someone has kicked me in the stomach. I could have been them - and I will never cease to realize that and put myself above these people. I can't imagine the fear and pain they're going through.

So hear come the false patriots, with their China-made magnets alongside their W'04 stickers. They voted for WAR, a war based on lies and propped up by propaganda. The lives of the troops mean jack shit to them. The families, the children, of the troops mean jack shit to them. They vote for a party that cuts military and veteran's benefits and closes VA hospitals. They vote for a party that would like to flat out eliminate the social programs many of these young soldiers need because their pay is so paltry they qualify for things like food stamps, and programs far too many vets depend on to simply live because they've been cast aside like trash. They vote for an Administration who won't allow media coverage of the remains of the people who gave their lives for nothing because they don't think they deserve that respect. They vote for a president who has yet to go to a single funeral of any of these people he has sentenced to death. To them, our military is a symbol like the flag. Something you can wave around, say you love and support without knowing ANYTHING about what it stands for and the people behind it. INDIVIDUAL people - with wives, husbands, children, parents, brothers and sisters. Not numbers, PEOPLE. Not a symbol you profess to support but every action you take is a slap in their face. Ironically, these same people would scream about how you're a traitor who should be jailed for treason if you burned or desecrated the flag. THE FLAG. A SYMBOL. But they're hunky dory with 19 yr old amputees and young fathers with their face blown off. How can someone send someone else to DIE for a cause they're not willing to die for themselves? They're obviously not willing, or they'd be enlisting in droves and since enlistment numbers are in the toilet it's clear they're not willing to give the real support these troops need - fire support. What is it about the troops lives that make them so expendable? Because they volunteered to serve their country? The opposite should be true, actually, because you don't play callously with the lives of people you honor and respect. They volunteered with integrity, the least people can do is treat them with the respect that SHOULD earn.

So not only are these hypocrites voting for the policies that hurt the troops through every stage of their lives and putting them in grave danger, not only are they unwilling to join the ranks of those they claim to hold in such regard, but they further insult them by marginalizing them into meaningless propaganda symbols. Is that RESPECT? Is that SUPPORT? Or is that DECORATION, a FASHION statement? The profits from all of these WAR SOUVENIRS purchased and used with the same level of emotion as a trinket picked up on a Disney World vacation doesn't even go to help the troops - it's nothing short of blood money lining the pockets of the morally bankrupt. How many are sending care packages to our troops? How many are writing their representatives about the piss poor care our veterans receive? How many are putting pressure on lawmakers to pay these troops a fraction of what they're paying Haliburton employees and mercenaries? How many of them are writing letters to the editor about the lack of protective armor these troops are receiving from the government they chose? How many of them are demanding that the troops be allowed to call home occasionally for free, because they've earned that, instead of allowing families already living below the poverty level to go into debt just so their children can remember what daddy's voice sounds like? But who needs all that stuff when you have a MAGNET, made in the good 'ole Republic of China.

And it's not just the damn magnets and bumper stickers... it's everything. It's the shallow mantra in general. It's the widely accepted belief that being pro-war means you support the troops and the equally disturbing belief that if you are against this war you hate the troops. How can you be pro-ANYTHING while refusing to partake and supporting policies that are directly hurting the thing you claim to be PRO about? Alternatively, how can you be against this war but don't give two shits about the troops? All things being equal, if you had your way they'd all still be ALIVE.

My anger came to a head, surprisingly, the other day when I was watching a news segment on CNN (and I hardly EVER watch TV news anymore) about portraits that had been made of soldiers that had died in Iraq. There were drawings, paintings, collages - even carvings - all displayed together. It was quite moving, and the family members of the deceased were very touched. The segment wrapped up by stating that while all of the artists that contributed to this were predominately against the war, how great it was that they come together and do this for the families, despite their differences. They made a real effort to underscore how the artists and the families are on different ends of the spectrum in their beliefs, implying all the while that anti-war = anti-troops and pro-war = pro-troops. They went on to say that because the artists were anti-war (of course they were, it was a MEANINGFUL gesture) that it was nothing short of amazing - bordering on a miracle - that they would honor the troops in such a way, because these particular people against the war we're the exception to the rule. This was the point where my head exploded.

BEING PRO-WAR AND SUPPORTING THE TROOPS IS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

It is simply impossible to support this administration and their policies and support the troops at the same time... unless my definition of "support" is flawed and that actually means chant mantras while shitting all over someone.


BEING AGAINST THIS WAR AND SUPPORTING THE TROOPS BY YOUR VOTES, MEANINGFUL GESTURES THAT HELP THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND HAVING RESPECT FOR THEIR LIVES IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF SUPPORT.

I'm adamantly against this war, but I vote for people who support policies that benefit the troops in many ways, I write letters about VA benefits and medical care, letters about active duty wages at poverty levels, I've sent care packages to Iraq and Afghanistan, I personalize them every chance I get so that people are forced to see them as more than faceless volunteer drones on a suicide mission, and most importantly I protested and wrote letter after letter to try to stop this unnecessary war from happening in the first place. I'm the wife of a veteran, I've lived the life, my kids were Army brats. I DARE ANY OF THESE FOOLS TO SAY FOR ONE SECOND I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE TROOPS. Like the old Army commercial, I've done more for them by 9am than these treasonous cheerleaders do in a lifetime.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:31 PM
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1. Just this morning...
I was thinking about how "I support the troops" really just means "I support the war" and it won't wash. It means nothing about the troops and everything about digging ones heels in to support their voting for the worst president in history. Thanks for your posting about this issue.

One more thought. I'm a Dem. But I'm also rethinking Truman who probably didn't have to drop a second atomic bomb on Japan. And he initiated a campaign of having Americans live in fear (I grew up in the 'duck and cover' days) to be able to build up our defense budget to massive proportions. So, the shrub may have some competition for 'worst prez' position. I calls 'em as I sees 'em.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:00 AM
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27. A few differences though.
* Divided us like never before, on all levels from the young to the old, to the rich and the middle-class/poor; think of every imaginable aspect of our society and * has demoralized us in that way.

Speaking of demoralizing, it's as if he enjoys it, hence the term "Smirking Chimp" applies most applicable. He's referred to as the Anti-Christ in many corners because he using Christianity, and terms like "faith based," "Evangelical" to back his bloody hands and future plans. Not Christan by any measure.

Like the poster and yourself, I too have had these same thoughts and agree. "Supporting a war based on total, wicked lies while our fellow Americans are dying by the day, or coming back traumatized, injured - many for life both physically and mentally does not equate."

Think of 9/11: All of us suffered "post traumatic stress syndrome," and probably still do, especially New Yorkers, New Jersey folks. Why would you then make so many fast-tracked, sudden drastic changes to the way of life that secured us the most (Social Security - money we paid into for many many decades) when what we needed was unity, comfort and hope from our so-called leader.

It just does not equate and I too can not bear to look at those China-made stickers. The ones I've met are arrogant and "haughty."

We've been disgraced before ourselves, and the world.
Even Truman did not go that far, except for the poor Japanese.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:33 PM
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2. *standing up and appluading*
Wow! that sums it up for me (except for the parts about being a military wife--my wife never signed up).
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:39 PM
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3. What she said
What's more, I'm so grateful for the greatest page and the four people who recommended this or I might never have read it.
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corker Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:52 PM
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4. Good rant
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 04:53 PM by corker
I feel the same way, how did it come to this?
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:56 PM
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5. Bravo
You're right on the mark
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:57 PM
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6. exactly my thoughts
I saw the CNN piece you are talking about and was sickened by it. As a military wife living on a military base, I don't see all the pro-war military families that the news seems to talk about. I would really like to know where they are. I know republican soldiers and even they are, from the people I know, against this war.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:58 PM
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20. I hope your husband stays safe, best wishes to you
I too would love to know where these pro-war enlisted families are. A military family being pro-war carries a lot more baggage with that then the false patriots' bloodlust, being that they or an immediate family member could die in that. It's like a deer being pro-hunting.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:09 PM
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7. These Neo-conmen crapweasels
do NOT support our troops, have absolutely nothing in common with them, and view all those in the military service as part of Americas' underclass to be used and abused at their whim. If they are all so enamored of military service, why is it that when they had the chance to serve their country almost all of them to a man made excuses, got deferred, lied to get out of the draft, ran to daddy deeppockets, insert lame cowardly excuse here? I support all our people in uniform for the sacrifices they make so that I live can live in a free society. It is a shame that our government looks upon them as a way to enforce economic hegemony upon the part of the world that won't play ball with the current criminal enterprise that calls itself our government. I bet the Bush twins stay up late at night making up care packages for our troops in harms' way. Great post, nonconformist.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:57 PM
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16. Sadly I believe you are correct
I remember one of our friends from the Army had a Republican aunt who had the gall to bitch about the 2 weeks of vacation service members receive per year saying, I shit you not, "so my tax dollars pay for you to have all those days off?" I had to scrape my jaw up off the floor while they just shrugged, because that was par for course where she was concerned. The sheer audacity of it has made it stick in my mind firmly.

I doubt many would admit it today, they'd just stare at you blankly and pull one of those small American flags out of their back pocket and wave it in your face if you asked them, but there is no doubt in my mind that a great many Republicans view the people that make up the military as glorified "welfare queens" - expendable poor people living "high" (ha!) off the government sitting around with their thumbs up their asses unless they're in war. They support the machine, not the people who pay the actual price.

Welcome to DU!
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:57 PM
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26. My cousins' husband is a Captain
stationed at Ft. Campbell. His unit was one of the first to go into Afghanistan. After that 10 month tour, he was sent right back out to Iraq, and came home at the end of last year. After being home for six weeks, he was once again sent back to Iraq. All the time this is going on, my cousin (who has three kids all under the age of eighteen) had been diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor which will take her life sooner or later. Her husband asked that he be stationed stateside considering the circumstances, and the Armys' answer was that he could do as they tell him as they need the men or resign his commission. Since there is no insurance coverage on Earth that would take my cousin in her current condition, he was forced to stay in and got shipped out. These are the people that the rat-fuck bastards in power mouth such heart-warming sound bites about, but in reality they do not give a care in the least if they live or die. After all of this was going on, my uncle, a retired naval officer and no fool, told me that he personally thinks that G.W. is insane. I would like to see one of the fools in any position of power in this government cross swords with him; the carnage would be astounding.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:13 PM
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8. Support the Troops!
Impeach Bush!

(my favorite bumperstkr)
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:20 PM
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9. I couldn't have said it better,
I'm a military brat of a Vietnam Vetern who is overcome with anger at this "president" beyond belief.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:22 PM
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10. I agree with your every word!!!
Sometimes, the frustration meter goes so high that I break down in :cry:

Thank you for sharing a most excellent rant!!! :patriot:
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La Coliniere Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:25 PM
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11. I know how you feel.
Your posting was right on. I really empathize with your feelings. It's true, I know many folks who've decorated their vehicles with the cheap made-in-China ribbons and they are mostly chimp supporters who either refuse to see the truth, or are simply incapable for whatever reason. I flew the flag over the weekend in respect for the troops, and for my dad and grandfather who were proud vets who did their part. I was glad to hear that most of the folks you knew in the service weren't repugs. As you know, the media would have us believe that all service people are repugs, that any other combination is suspect and definitely in the minority.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:32 PM
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12. When you wrote...
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 05:33 PM by madeline_con
"They went on to say that because the artists were anti-war (of course they were, it was a MEANINGFUL gesture) that it was nothing short of amazing - bordering on a miracle - that they would honor the troops in such a way, because these particular people against the war we're the exception to the rule. This was the point where my head exploded."

You gotta realize that, sadly, a lot of stupid people hear that, and believe it just because it's on TV, or their favorite anchor said it.

Most people are stupid, gullible and will follow anyone who uses the right buzzwords. Sad but true...

BTW, excellent rant!!! :yourock:
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:55 PM
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22. You're right
The media says it enough and it becomes gospel. Nevermind that the anchor didn't bother to point out that the pro-war people have never done anything like this for the families of the troops, only the anti-war have. That irony goes right over their heads while they're generalizing and labeling the ONLY people that actually do anything to help these people as 'one hit wonders' and never once wondering why the side that loves 'em some troops is doing jack shit. Jack shit with a magnet and a smile.

Will people see through it? Hell if I know, my confidence is rock bottom.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:34 PM
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13. Very well said and written...
Can I forward this to a few of my friends?? A couple of my repug hypocrite relatives??
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:40 PM
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15. Absolutely, feel free
Sorry for the length, but once I started it all just started falling out. Like a tumor.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:38 PM
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14. nominated
I share your dismay at the people who so readily assimilate propaganda and then project it as some sort of self-righteous stance. BS is BS. Support the TRUTH and the troops will not be used and traumatized for the sake of war profiteers and fools.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:06 PM
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17. awesome
Your post is one of the most awesome I have read

I am now not responding to those phony patriots, or those "support
our troops" BS, it does mean you support this illegal invasion
because no WAR was declared.

Again awesome post!!!!
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:53 PM
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21. Thanks
What a fabulous compliment! I'm all verklempt. :)
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:11 PM
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18. Great Rant. Nominated!
It turns my stomach seeing and hearing these false patriots, who would probably feel differently if their loved one is killed, wounded or deployed into that war-zone.

What really sickens me is when they inject religion into the false-patriotism and deify bu$h/Cheney.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:31 PM
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19. Well said! Nominated
Thank you for saying it so eloquently.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:01 PM
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23. People side step questioning the mission!
You always hear them say that they support the troops, but not the mission, but they stop there! They should be questioning a mission that sent our troops to invade a country that posed no threat to us on account of a bunch of lies. The Commander-in-Chief lied to the country and to his troops about WMD in Iraq. The Commander-in-Chief has put our troops in great peril while pursuing a personal agenda of succeeding where his father failed, removing Saddam.

The best way to support the troops is to bring them home, and to punish those responsible for this war.
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:27 PM
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24. Oh, so very well said!
My husband and I were both in the Army, and he is still in the Guard. (Been deployed two years in the Guard, got off active duty in 2000.) I never knew Reps in the Army. Still don't and most of the ppl we know are still in. The Rep idea of what patriotism is is seriously warped. True patriotism is having the courage to dissent, the courage to protest, and yes, even the courage to serve despite those objections, something I have seen countless enlisted soldiers do many times over. I have gone off on many an idiot over the last few years. Don't you dare question my loyality to this country until you show me a 214 lol!
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:54 PM
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25. I'm with you. 'Nother nom.
:thumbsup:
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:04 AM
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28. EXCELLENT RANT. Would you mind if I forward this on to some
well meaning but misguided freepers I know?
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:27 AM
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29. Not at all.
I'd love for some freeper types to read it.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:07 AM
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30. Thanks! n/m
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:52 AM
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31. kick
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:44 PM
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32. Gratuitous kick
:kick:
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:31 PM
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33. I'm nominating AND bookmarking this thread!
EXTREMELY well said.

:patriot:
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