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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:06 PM
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Can I ask a knuckleheaded question re: the EU constitution votes?
A few questions, actually.

1. What is in this constitution?

2. Why have the Dutch and French rejected it so resoundingly?

Thanks.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:07 PM
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1. Who has time to read 430 pages? Who votes for something they haven't read?
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 06:07 PM by Massacure
Answers: Obviously not the Dutch and French. :P
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:08 PM
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2. I'm really not sure.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:11 PM
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3. just a guess
They fear globalization and getting their autonomy and individual voices repressed by being swallowed up by the EU. They are fiercely nationalistic and value diversity.

In the case of the Dutch, they are such a small nation, they fear they'll lose influence altogether. Heard some interviewed today.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:13 PM
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4. These were the same issues on the table
when the debate was on going to the Euro, yes?
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:18 PM
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6. Yup
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 06:21 PM by stellanoir
and from what I heard today, neither the French or the Dutch were very happy with their new currency, or with the exorbitant rate of inflation in both countries.

People often make decisions with nerve endings operational only in their wallets. But I feel there are deeper concerns here as well. The constitution probably requires some serious refinement.
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ElkHunter Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:17 PM
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5. There's a good article on the EU vote...
...by John Nichols at The Nation: http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=2957 There's also several articles on the subject at the english language section of the website for the Dutch Socialist Party, which can be found at: http://international.sp.nl/
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:20 PM
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7. Thanks
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:35 PM
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8. see discussion at DU 's LBN
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