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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:29 AM
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Aren't we closing bases in Germany?
One of my daughter's friends stopped by tonight.
Was talking about her sister's boyfriend is joining the Air Force.
I commented that that seemed kind of stupid considering the climate of war.
She said that no--he wasn't going to go to Iraq. He had been promised by the recruiter that he would be stationed in Germany.
I told her that I thought that the bases in Germany were being moved but I couldn't remember exactly if that was true.
I don't understand how ANYONE would believe a recruiter at this stage of the game though.:shrug:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:32 AM
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1. Beware of promises of being stationed in Germany!
My cousin is in the Army. He was stationed in Germany and got engaged to a woman he met there (U.S. soldier stationed in Germany, too). He was due to get out and was told that if he reinlisted, he'd get a cash bonus (I don't remember how much) and be stationed in Germany again. He made sure to get it in writing.

6 weeks later, they sent him to Iraq...


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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:34 AM
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2. That's what I figured
Germany would be considered a pretty plum assignment for a new recruit.
I guess they will send him to Germany for a month before they give his new orders to Iraq so they can say they didn't lie to him.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:40 AM
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3. They can send anybody anywhere regardless of what they promise.
They don't even need to make it look as if they're living up to their part of the agreement. If you're in the military, you have no recourse.

With enlistment rates falling as they are, I'd be VERY cautios about accepting a recruiter's word on anything.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:48 AM
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7. I tried to convey this
But I have a feeling it fell on deaf ears.
Some people in my neck of the woods are as dumb as a stump.
They still believe what agents of the government tell them.:shrug:
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:41 AM
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4. There are plans afoot...
... to build new bases in Romania and Bulgaria--closer to the action in central Asia--and to close bases in Germany when those are done. They may end up there, instead of Germany, especially if their jobs are in support roles.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:46 AM
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6. Thanks.
I remember reading this on DU--I just couldn't remember the two countries that we were moving to.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:45 AM
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5. Bases, Bases Everywhere
Bases, Bases Everywhere
by Tom Engelhardt
Tom Dispatch
The last few weeks have been base-heavy ones in the news. The Pentagon's provisional Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) list, the first in a decade, was published to domestic screams of pain. It represents, according to the Washington Post, "a sweeping plan to close or reduce forces at 62 major bases and nearly 800 minor facilities" in the United States. The military is to be reorganized at home around huge, multi-force "hub bases" from which the Pentagon, in the fashion of a corporate conglomerate, hopes to "reap economies of scale." This was front-page news for days as politicians and communities from Connecticut (the U.S. Naval Submarine Base in Groton) and New Jersey (Fort Monmouth) to South Dakota (Ellsworth Air Force Base) cried bloody murder over the potential loss of jobs and threatened to fight to the death to prevent their specific base or set of bases (but not anyone else's) from closing – after all, those workers had been the most productive and patriotic around. These closings – and their potentially devastating effects on communities – were a reminder (though seldom dealt with that way in the media) of just how deeply the Pentagon has dug itself into the infrastructure of our nation. With over 6,000 military bases in the U.S., we are in some ways a vast military camp.

But while politicians screamed locally, Donald Rumsfeld's Pentagon never thinks less than globally; and, if you throw in the militarization of space, sometimes even the global has proven too small a framework for its presiding officials. For them, the BRAC plans are just one piece of a larger puzzle that involves the projection of American power into the distant lands that most concern us. After all, as Chalmers Johnson has calculated in his book, The Sorrows of Empire, our global Baseworld already consists of at least 700 military and intelligence bases; possibly – depending on how you count them up – many more. Under Rumsfeld's organizational eye, such bases have been pushed ever further into the previously off-limits "near abroad" of the former Soviet Union (where we now probably have more bases than the Russians do) and ever deeper into the Middle Eastern and Caspian oil heartlands of the planet.

The Bush administration's fierce focus on and interest in reconfigured, stripped-down, ever more forward systems of bases and an ever more powerfully poised military "footprint" stands in inverse proportion to press coverage of it. To the present occupants of the Pentagon, bases are the equivalent of imperial America's lifeblood, yet basing policy abroad has, in recent years, been of next to no interest to the mainstream media.

Strategic Ally

Just in recent weeks, however, starting with the uproar over the economic pain BRAC will impose (along with the economic gain for those "hubs"), bases have returned to public consciousness in at least a modest way. This month, for instance, the Overseas Basing Commission released a report to the president and Congress on the "reconfiguration of the American military overseas basing structure in the post-Cold War and post-September 11 era." The report created a minor flap by criticizing the Pentagon for its overly ambitious global redeployment plans at a time when "ervice budgets are not robust enough to execute the repositioning of forces, build the facilities necessary to accommodate the forces, build the expanding facilities at new locations."





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http://www.antiwar.com/engelhardt/?articleid=6188
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