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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:16 PM
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Right wing rants about Felt et al destroying Nixon.
I've been reviewing recent statements by the Limpster and others about how Felt and Company worked for years to tear down that fine, upstanding Richard Nixon. How their efforts ultimately cost us the Vietnam war, triggered Cambodian atrocities, etc.

Now it occurs to me that this is a Tin-Foil Conspiracy of MIHOP proportions. Yet this same bunch are quick on the draw to...

wait for it...

EXPLODE! in outrage against Crazy Internet Conspiracy Theorists (tm).

One could wonder if they are a bit hypocritical?


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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:20 PM
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1. I think it might be more a case of
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 01:21 PM by Kurovski
pounding that square peg (vigorously and continually) into that particular round hole.

Also, don't discount mental illness and cluelessness.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:20 PM
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2. Ah the irony...
This from the party of personal responsibility claiming that it isn't the criminals' fault but the person who exposed the wrong-doing.
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74dodgedart Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:27 PM
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3. The break-in didn't occur until '72.
Nixon was already reducing troop levels, Vietnamization had been the policy through Nixon'x first term.....How did Watergate cost us the war ?
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:35 PM
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7. Shit. Don't ask me.
I don't remember any of the stuff they were ranting about. Granted, I was only 18 when the hearings dominated every news outlet, and hardly a political junkie, but Mom was, and she made sure I at least paid some attention to what was going on.

As I remember, Nixon was right on the thin edge of acquiring political "loser" status, and only the Democrats choice of the ever dull and annoying Hubert Humphrey kept him from going down in history as a "never was".

On the other hand, read through a roster of the Nixon White House. You will see familiar names. As in "PNAC, the Prequel". Assholes, one and all.


(Note: The DU spell checker passes "asshole" but questions "PNAC". There's something wrong here.)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:28 PM
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4. Felt rid this country of a malignant cancerous tumor
george bush, military hero. richard nixon, outstanding president. It must really suck having to make up your own reality.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:06 PM
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16. It's hard work. it's hard.
In fact, they're so overworked reconfiguring reality that they're all slipping into a psychosis similar to Nixon's.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:28 PM
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5. Mr. Felt is a true American hero
and should be awarded the Medal of Freedom. He helped to destroy a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY that was perpetrated upon the republic by a paranoid president and his henchmen. The right-wingnut crapweasels that are apologists for this behaviour are the same ones that think getting lied to by the current administration is just peachy. G. Gordon Liddy, Chuck Colson, etc. and all the other convicted felons can go crap in their hats on this one.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:41 PM
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8. Why is G. Gordon Liddy being the "spokesperson"
for the Republican party - as if he is a neutral character or something.

They should at least introduce him as someone who was convicted and who served time as result of all this. Some people wouldn't know or remember.

For those not familiar:

"For Liddy's role in the Watergate scandal, which he coordinated with Hunt, Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary, and illegal wiretapping and served four and a half years in prison before having his 20 year sentence commuted by President Jimmy Carter."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Gordon_Liddy
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:12 PM
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14. G. Gordon Jailbird
The Repubs must be SO proud to have a convicted felon standing up for Tricky Dick.
The Professor
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:30 PM
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6. Hi-Jacking elections has been trademarked by the Republican Party
They can't imagine now why anyone would dare to blow the whistle on a couple "third rate burglers" breaking into Democratic headquarters.

Indeed, it is rather tame compared to current tactics, but the whining from the right shows how totally corrupt they've become.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:54 PM
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9. call me crazy, but...
didn't Nixon destroy Nixon? :freak:
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:55 PM
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10. Yeah, just like those damn allies detroyed Hitler.
Why the hell are the whistleblowers being blamed for Nixon's crimes?
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:05 PM
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11. Good point. I guess only liberal conspiracies are loony to them
when in fact right-wingers come up with the most absurd conspiracy theories possible -- theories that actually give a bad name to conspiracy theorists.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:09 PM
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12. You should hear a whacko we have here in Brazil.
He thinks the sexual liberation of the 60s was planned in the offices of Joseph Stalin. Along with everything he doesn't like, including probably broccoli.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:11 PM
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13. Did you see Ben Stein's response?
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 02:12 PM by wicket
He blames Deep Throat for the genocide in Cambodia and calls JFK a drug addict . Here's the thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3771418&mesg_id=3771418
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:32 PM
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15. This claim is ridiculous
Stein has lost it. Noonan, Rush and Buchanan are also using the same talking point. There is no way that Nixon could have stopped the fall of South Vietnam or prevent the killing fields in Cambodia. Nixon started the pullout of our troops before watergate and the peace conference and treaty was done before the investigation got going in earnest. Here is good time line to use. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/vietnam/timeline/tl3.html#a
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:22 PM
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17. Ford's Pardoning Of Nixon Did More To Hurt...
Ford failed to act in either South Vietnam or Cambodia since he didn't want to ruffle feathers in HIS OWN party. Nixon's & Watergate's affect was minimal...giving Democrats a larger than expect gains in the '74 off-year, but it was Ford who was afraid of his own right wing that led to him not doing a thing in '75.

I'm sure Rushbo and others collectively forget the Mayaguez...the Navy ship captured by the Cambodians right after Ford took control and how inept he handled that. He feared his own right wing...who was already looking at Raygun to "rescue" the party.

After Ford pardoneded Nixon he lost any "honeymoon" he had with the public...his popularity ratings fell and he was a lame duck from that point on (if he wasn't already). He had no mandate to send troops even if he wanted to and it was these same asshat conservatives who wanted to get as far away from Vietnam as they could.
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