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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:24 PM
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Milk may prevent heart attacks, strokes
Milk may prevent heart attacks, strokes

United Press International

Thursday, June 2, 2005

DUBLIN, Ireland, Jun 02, 2005 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- Drinking more milk can reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke, a new study suggests.

Tracking 400,000 adults worldwide for up to 28 years, the study found that those who drank the most milk had a 13 percent lower risk of heart disease and 17 percent lower chance of stroke than those who drank little or no milk, the Irish Independent reported Thursday.

Professor Peter Elwood of the University of Cardiff, Wales, presented the findings at a National Dairy Council briefing in Dublin, Ireland, but stressed his research was entirely independent, with no funding from the dairy industry.

In Ireland a new survey has shown that one-third of girls were not getting enough calcium, "setting the scene for a massive problem with osteoporosis in the future," Elwood noted.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_24986.html
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:37 PM
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1. someone just said a month ago, milk was useless, lol lol
the long standing goo dfor bones and teeth, wrong
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:43 PM
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2. Best news I have heard in a long long time
I could drink a gallon a day but try to limit myself..to a half gallon or a little less..
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:05 PM
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3. how is this true?
Your thread was pretty much the whole article...
didn't go into why drinking milk would prevent
heart disease...was it whole milk or skim, and
how often did a healthy person drink it and with
what kind of diet? A 28 year study with 400,000
people? Wow. That is hard to believe.

I really can't imagine that milk, full of steroids,
helps with either heart disease or stroke.

No funding from the dairy industry?



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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:16 PM
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10. Ireland
I drink scottish milk, and i like to think it less filled with steroids
than the american cousin. The study can't help but ignore the lifestyle
facts that go with such things. Adults to drink milk, are obviously
not drinking alcoholic beverages!

There has to be some rather difficult numbers in such a study, and, like
yourself, i'm skeptical that there are not other factors.
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jdh_24 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:06 PM
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4. ....
this is just another ploy by fascist american dairy companies to increase their sales.
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shockra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:40 PM
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5. Hard to find any more info on this.
But this is what I did find.

http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/106/108169.htm?printing=true

The new study included 665 men between the ages of 45 and 59 recruited for an ongoing nutrition and health study between 1979 and 1983. Just after recruitment the men were asked to weigh and record everything they ate or drank for one week. They were then followed for evidence of heart disease for the next 20 years, during which time 54 of the men had strokes, 139 developed heart disease, and 225 died.

Most of the men drank whole milk when they entered the study, but almost all had switched to skim or low fat two decades later.

Men who drank the most milk (a pint or more) and the least milk (less than half a pint) had similar blood pressure and cholesterol levels. Men who drank the most milk also consumed the most calories, while men who drank the least milk drank the most alcohol.

Death rates from all causes were similar in both groups. Men who drank the most milk had a lower risk of stroke caused by blood clots than those who drank the least. They also tended to have a slightly lower risk of heart attack than those who drank less.

The study is published in the latest issue of the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health.

SOURCES: Elwood, P.C. Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, 2005; vol 59: pp 502-505



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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:02 PM
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6. But it does not note whether the cows treated with BGH.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:10 PM
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7. I don't want to ruin anyone's day but I have heard there is some
stuff in Milk that maybe you want to think twice about drinking. I have been told there is actual puss and blood from the cow in milk.

Here is an article

http://www.rense.com/general26/milk.htm


Alright everyone, Got Milk?
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renter Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:13 PM
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8. Blood=Milk
My first post. Milk is created from blood via a chemical process.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:16 PM
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9. Hi Renter!
Welcome To DU:headbang:
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renter Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:26 PM
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16. Thank you dogday
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:35 PM
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20. And due to rGBH and IGF-1 levels, rampant mastitis, etc.........
nobody should be drinking the bloody, pus filled mess.

:puke:


It is NOT NATURAL to drink cow breast milk or any other species breast milk or even human breast milk beyond infancy.

How about some good RAT milk? That'd be yummy on your Cheerios.


Here's another little jewel, the rogue prion that causes bovine spongiform encephaly.......... it's passed in milk too.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:17 PM
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11. Thanks for sending this. Personally I believe it applies to RAW milk.
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 06:20 PM by BigBearJohn
Raw milk that is still warm from the animal has traditionally been used through the centuries for various wasting illnesses. Even in the early days of the Mayo Foundation, Dr. J. R. Crewe used a raw milk diet to cure diabetes, obesity, eczema, psoriasis, gastritis, allergies, respiratory diseases, arthritis, diseases of the heart and kidneys, high blood pressure, edema, swollen prostates, urinary tract infections and anemia (including pernicious anemia).

http://www.olytrader.com/Articles/Melos_Arch/melos0604.htm
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:22 PM
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12. Do they inject steriods into Irish cows like we do? I don't think this
study is correct - rather, I don't think it was the milk that lessened the heart attack or stroke risk. I don't buy it.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:25 PM
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13. I haven't been able to drink the stuff
since I was nursing my own child and realized exactly what it really was. Grossed me out that day, and I never went back.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:25 PM
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15. but eating the flesh of an animal doesn't gross you out?
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:25 PM
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14. Read this article ... this is what milk REALLY does for you
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:29 PM
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17. This article is about HOMOGENIZED milk. Have you read the
studies on RAW milk?

England — Some data just released by the Medical Research Council (MRC) should create some interesting controversy among medical circles during the next several months. Peter Elwood, director of the Epidemiology Unit at Landough Hospital in Penarth, South Glamorgan, dropped a bombshell. His ongoing life-style study of 5000 men produced some startling and very unpopular findings. He discovered that men who drank the most full-fat milk and ate butter (rather than margarine) had a lower risk of suffering from heart attacks! (New Scientist 1991; 129(1759):17)

Needless to say, everyone in the medical community and the officials at the MRC are upset. (I'm sure margarine producers aren't thrilled about the news either.) Since Elwood made his findings public prior to having them published in a peer-reviewed journal, the MRC has instructed him to make no further statements to the press.

We've learned, however, that Elwood's study collected data on 5,000 British men between the ages of 45 and 59 for a period of 10 years. Of those that drank at least a pint of whole milk a day, only 1% suffered heart attacks! Some researchers are already claiming the difference is due to a healthier life-style on the part of the milk and butter consumers. Others, however, think that milk and butter may have some yet undiscovered benefits.

In 1929, Dr. J.E. Crewe with the Mayo Foundation reported "uniformly excellent" success using raw milk in treatment programs for high blood pressure, heart failure, diabetes, kidney disease, prostate problems and tuberculosis. He later stated that the only problem with using raw milk to treat these ailments was that it was too simple. As such, it didn't appeal to the medical profession. Only raw milk seemed to be of benefit. Pasteurized forms seemed to make most conditions worse.
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:31 PM
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19. Oh I agree with you there - even in the article I posted it mentions
raw milk as being good for you. Most people don't drink raw milk though, they drink homgenized thinking that they are drinking something good for them.
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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:30 PM
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18. My fellow health co-op member (so Irish you would have thought she...
...knew St. Patrick herself) said derisively "They don't have CORN in Ireland!"

We have been eating Kerrygold Butter from Ireland, and it is SO YELLOW and FULL of OMEGA-3 from the grass their cows eat! This is what our own population ate before the last century. or even before WWII. And yes, there are certain fats especially in whole dairy products that cause the body to burn fat, and to heal. (Many are swallowing CLA capsules from the health food store.) Look up the WestonAPrice.com website for more info. Also Mercola.com and TropicalTraditions.com

The short and medium chain saturated fats found in grass raised dairy/butter and virgin coconut oil are highly healing of a multitude of diseases. I was flabbergasted to find out that they once served a "butter diet" in the case of severe illness. And now, if you dig into the NIH files deeply enough, you will see they put virgin coconut oil into the IV's of preemies and older folks.

Coconut oil is more easily available, for its healing power. But more and more, one can get grassfed beef, butter, cheese and milk from small farmers in this country. We vote with our dollars, for our health, one way or another.

"Every good seed..."
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:38 PM
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22. I'm glad you bring up the difference. GRASS-fed cows are GOOD for you
Cows do not have the stomachs to digest CORN.
Their stomachs evolved to eat GRASS.
That's why farmers have to shoot them with antibiotics and growth
hormones so they grow fat quickly and can be brought to market
before they die of every ugly disease.


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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:35 PM
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21. RECOMMENDED (but RAW milk only)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:26 PM
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23. Wales. So this will be raw milk, possibly not even cow's milk, and
it doesn't take into consideration the rules/laws for milk production in that part of the world.

Sure, it's very possible. Looks almost likely. BUT, that ain't the good ole USA and it's churn-m-n-burn-m milk production industry.

From what I understand, it's common to consume milk from ewes, goats and buffalo in that part of the world.
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