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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 01:54 PM
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Warning to parents of pre- and teen-aged kids
Every 2 years the Air Force presnts the Thunderbirds at Hanscom Field, west of Boston. It must have been at least 3-4 years ago when I brought my son, who would have been about 11.

They have a huge tractor trailer full of the latest video games, but, here's the catch, in order to get in, you need to complete an ID card.

You enter your name, address, phone number & date of birth. It takes your photo and voila, a picture ID is generated that the kid wears.

Two weeks after the show he started receiving mail from the Air Force.

So my warning is BEWARE if you go to airshows or similar military demonstrations. DO NOT give out personal information.
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cwrightmills Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 01:57 PM
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1. As fun as they are to watch...
... encouraging your children to attend air shows and whatnot is encouraging them to fetishize and celebrate the naked aggression of the military complex.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 01:58 PM
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2. How about watching old war movies?
Same deal?

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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cwrightmills Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 01:59 PM
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3. Usually...
It really depends on how the movie is made... Most old war movies are thinly veiled propaganda for the American war machine.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:00 PM
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5. ever seen tora tora tora?
most definately not that
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cwrightmills Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:01 PM
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6. Notice...
... I said most... "Tora Tora Tora" certainly wasn't -- then again, half of it was directed by Kurosawa.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:06 PM
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13. o, i know
but i think that TTT is a good example of the 50's war movie. they were made by men who were in the battles, and thus knew what it was really like. for glorification of the war machine, look to MODERN war movies (Top Gun, Navy Seals, Independance Day), or old monster movies.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:03 PM
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10. And last time I checked, TCM doesn't require ID cards either. nt
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:01 PM
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7. while this one was,
air shows are not neccessarily military.

and, in any case, i love military planes (especially WWII era), but that doesn't mean i "fetishize" war. i just freakin like the planes
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:04 PM
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11. I agree, and have not attened since
At the last one I attendeded they glorified battle by having two A-10 "warthogs" make runs over the field while blowing up charges which produced fire and columns of smoke, simulating the dropping of bombs, all the while a PR guy was pandering to the audience about the formidibility of the weaponry.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:07 PM
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14. I've really got to disagree with you there.
Like anything else, it's a matter of guidance and presentation. My dad took me to every accessible airshow- especially the military ones. He loved them because he was a pilot, and the technology fascinated him.

He'd tell me all about how the things functioned, the physical principles involved, etc., etc... it was always a great experience for me.

He was as far to the left as you can get, and did not support the military industrial complex in any way. The air shows were a great way to spend time with his kid and talk about the world, from science to politics. I loved the air shows.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:07 PM
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15. Sounds familiar
My older daughter was going to enlist in the Army out of high school, but changed her mind. The recruiter would call her about once a month for almost year to see if she had "changed her mind".

During this time, my younger daughter started getting stuff in the mail about joining the Army. He must have figured can't get big sister, work on little sister. She thought it was hysterical. She was 11 at the time. Little did she know 7 years later they would be ringing her phone off the hook (Leave No Child Behind) too.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:13 PM
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17. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 04:21 PM
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18. Hi cwrightmills!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:00 PM
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4. easy
lie. give them bullshit info, still get to play video games, but no air force.


still, it's a shitty practice (not that it's anything shocking, unfortunately)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:02 PM
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9. 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield....
The Simpsons'address.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:08 PM
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16. 221b
Baker St.

They might know the simpsons... go a little more literary ;)

WHOA!
Idea!
Give them the address of some right winger who is pro-war... make it easier for him to join up :evilgrin:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:02 PM
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8. Just fill out "your" info
Jenna Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Ave
Washington, DC.

:D
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 02:05 PM
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12. Now THAT is an idea!
Think she'd join?
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