A New Civil War?

[Impolitico]

I don't know if this has ever been posted....... but for anyone paying attention to current events OR science, this one will scare the pants off you. Either a meticulously well-planned, well-crafted piece of fiction, or...?

http://www.johntitor.com

[ComerPerro]

1. Well, it makes for entertaining reading

I enjoyed this site.

[greyl]

2. No, total horseshit. nt

[FlaGranny]

3. OKay, I read this,

but I find this future very "inconsistent." The technology for time machines, but transportation by horse and bicycle? String theory solved, but almost no medical care? Very odd, these people of the future.

[ComerPerro]

4. Yeah I noticed that too

You travel by bicycle, yet you have a time machine?

"Fuck the bike, I'm taking the time machine. I will be there three minutes ago."

[RainDog]

5. so can you post an exerpt?

fiction can oftentimes tell a greater truth than fact. who knows what the future holds.

the New Yorker had an article about a month ago which said that we have been engaged in a low-profile? grade? (low something) civil war ever since the Bush coup, basically.

I could very well see another civil war in America if the fascists and fundamentalists are not stopped by legal means.

I would hope it would not happen, but these people are the biggest threat to democracy in our own country since the fascists tried to assassinate FDR and install a fascist govt here.

would we have sided with Hitler then?

interesting thing to consider.

[ComerPerro]

6. One part

Involved poor political policies leading to tension in the US, which leads to "Waco-like" incidents scattered across the country month by month, starting in late 2004 due to issues with the election. Tension mounts, and there is an all out Civil War by 2005. It escalates until we see WWIII in 2015, I think it was?

[ComerPerro]

7. 2015

2015 is a significant date in space time history. It is in this year that we see Biff steal the DeLorean and travel back to 1955 to give the Gray's Sports Almanac to himself. This creates an alternate 1985, forcing Doc and Marty to travel to 1955 to stop Biff and destroy the Almanac. Despite the success of this mission, Doc is caught in the very electrical storm that sent Marty to 1985 after his first trip to 1955. A direct lightning strike to a cable connected to the DeLorean sends Doc back 70 years in time to the year 1885. Shortly after a Western Union man hands Marty a telegram from Doc, from 1885. The telegram details where Marty can find the DeLorean and how he may repair it. Marty runs back to Hill Valley and finds Doc, who he then recruits to help him fix the time machine and get back to 1985 (not the alternate 1985, but the 1985 he is from (not the one he is origionally from, but rather the one in which his parents are successful)). However, Marty soon discovers that Doc (the one in 1985, so the one from the future but in the past) is murdered just after sending the telegram for Marty. He travels back in time to 1885 to rescue Doc. Despite setbacks and a romantic relationship between Doc and a woman named Clara, Marty and Doc find a way to get the DeLorean up to 88mph and travel back to 1985. It turns out that Doc misses out on the trip to the future, due once again to a setback brought about by his romantic involvement. Marty arrives in 1985, but is unable to get the DeLorean out of the way of an oncoming train. Thus, the DeLorean, and the possibility of time travel, are destroyed.
Then Doc shows up with Clara in a flying, time-traveling locomotive...

But anyway, 2015 is a very important year in teh history of space-time.

[Ladyhawk]

8. I am usually very skeptical, but I can imagine

a civil war breaking out in the United States. If it does, should we all pack and move to Australia?

[ComerPerro]

9. Its brewing

There is a lot of tension between the hardcore left and the hardcore right. I am just not comfortable around conservatives anymore. I try to avoid them when necessary, mainly because I'm tired of hearing how the military hated Clinton, and how good it is that we have an honest man of integrity in the White House. I could go on, but you get the idea.

Its terribly interesting that this is coming during the tenure of a man who pledged to be a "uniter, not a divider".

[Art_from_Ark]

10. It's fiction

That map reference led to a Gore-bashing site ("Thank God our forefathers had the insight to let geographical area decide presidential elections"). I also think that if so many nuclear weapons had gone off in the US, China, Europe (and by extension, Russia), the Earth would be uninhabitable. And Mr. Time Traveler doesn't even name the candidates in the 2004 election.

[RainDog]

12. It's sad fiction

because fact is so much worse.

yeah, I went to the site to read a bit and also got that map which thanks god about the electoral college keeping Gore from winning.

the guy also says that Russia nukes the U.S. and that guy considers them "the other side" of the civil war...as in liberals, no doubt?

or then again, maybe he was talking about the fascist trotskyite Wolfie/Perle/Kristol faction?

LOL

the sad thing is, even though it's based upon false assumptions, it may be truer than the author could realize at the time.

he talks about the loss of civil liberties, talks about the lies about govt actions during Waco...

no doubt there are freepers who will insist, to their dying breath, that Bush supports the Constitution. LOL.

and Asswipe.

nevertheless, the guy has good advice for uncertain times, as far as being self-reliant, and having a mode of transportation that doesn't rely on fossil fuels, and learning how to survive in the event of a disaster, because we are certainly looking at that prospect right now, and Bush has spent his coin from 9-11 paying off corporations at the expense of national security, and has squandered the good will of the world on an unjustified war.

the guy was prescient when he said that, in the future, the rest of the world doesn't like the U.S. so very much. he was just off a few years, just like he was off on who was the problem in this country vis a vis our Constitution-raping.

The Hopi, coincidentally, have a similar prophecy, but they don't state a time. They do state that WW3 starts with incidents similar to what are happening now, and they went to the UN before George Sr. invaded Iraq to tell the leaders of the rest of the world that they thought that invasion would make the beginning of ww3.

they talk about a "gourd of ashes" falling on the US and destroying life as we know it because the white men refuse to stop their destruction of the earth.

The Hopi call themselves the people of peace and, ironically, sacred Hopi land is the site for uranium mining which was used to drop the bombs on Japan.

In 2000, Hopi, Tibetan Buddhists, and Japanese all marked ceremony by taking embers from Hiroshima from Japan, to Pearl Harbor, and finally back to sacred Hopi land.

[Jonte_1979]

11. That was hilarious!

Thanks for the laughs!

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to return to planet G'kloyhok before my lifemate files a missing person's report with the interstellitary highway patrol.

[Champion Jack]

13. Oh sure, he doesn't have an agenda......

Your prediction of (national politics) pending disintegration, beginning in
three short years, is impossible.


Have you see the documentary on Waco? Just for argument's sake, what do you think would happen if information were discovered that confirmed the worst
accusations made against the law enforcement officers there? Would you hope
nothing?