A minor point: Bush isn’t willing to pay the price for freedom.

[The Lone Liberal]

Cspan less than five minutes ago: in reference to the 87 billion request for Bush’s war an “agree with President Bush policy” caller on the open topic asked a question “how much are we willing to pay for our freedom?” The inference being that to oppose the 87 billion would be a sign of unwillingness to defend our freedom.

What strikes me as begging the question when anyone ask that particular question,it seems to be a favorite of the all of the administration’s spokespersons, is the concept of "paying." Bush is unwilling to “pay” the price, instead he is putting it off on future generations.

To be consistent with fact, Bush and his crowd should state the question, “how much are we willing to borrow and let someone else worry about paying for our freedom.”

[Mikimouse]

1. Unfortunately,

that concept is far too complex for the neocon crowd. Furthermore, it is not as easy, using your line of reasoning, to use the "you're with us, or your with the terrorists" 'logic'.:hippie:

[LittleApple81]

2. It also irritates me to no end...

to hear the RW always implying that if we lose more soldiers, or have more attacks, or ... anything bad for America IT IS GOING TO BE THE CRITICS' fault!!!!
It is un-American to open your eyes, it is un-American to ask questions, it is un-American to protest...!

[greatauntoftriplets]

3. I think he is trying to evoke the old JFK line

about "pay any price". Georgie, you are no JFK.

[ComerPerro]

5. Don't give Rove any ideas

Thats the last thing we need....

[Booberdawg]

4. To the caller "“how much are we willing to pay our freedom?”

That is not to say one must write a blank check, and to someone who has proven to spend it wrecklessly. I'm not interested in paying through the nose for the mistakes of others either.

[The Lone Liberal]

7. To me the more pertinent point is that Bush is unwilling to pay.

Or to ask those who have benefited most from this society to pay. He is willing to spend any amount of money, but some other generations money. He is not willing to ask any one of this generation to pay the price. To do so would require that he, Bush, roll back the tax cuts.

[soupkitchen]

6. He has a reputation of being a cheap guy in real life

Who never wanted to pay for anything.
Now if he liquidated all his assets and donated them to the war cause, and he demanded that everybody in his administration liquidate all their assets and donate them to the war cause. And if he told all rich Americans that their patriotic duty is to liquidate all their assets and donate them to paying for Iraqi freedom, I might believe his paying "the price of freedom" rhetoric;his committment to the cause.
But in the absense of such a policy, I quess he means we will pay the price with working class blood, but not with rich mans green.
And answer this question for me, "Why are Americans so willing to give their childrens lives to their country but not their money?"

[The Lone Liberal]

8. Excellent question.

One that has occurred to me several times in the past. I suppose it is due to the fact that it is so easy to make flesh, bone and blood, while making a “buck” the way the game is rigged is much harder.