I am beginning to like Kim Il Bush.He called Cheney a "bloodthirsty

[KlatooBNikto]

beast".I have yet to find a better description of our notorious and nefarious VP.

[geek tragedy]

1. Did you like Hitler because he probably called Stalin names?

Just curious what makes you admire mass murdering tyrants?

[Sean Reynolds]

3. Or better yet....

Do you like Stalin because he called Hitler names?

[geek tragedy]

7. They were both monsters. I assume both are rotting in Hell, if there

is such a place.

[bahrbearian]

22. Of Course there a Hell , that where Cheney goes on an Amber alert

[KlatooBNikto]

4. No.But I don't know that he has committed mass murder. Please

enlighten me.OTOH, I do know that Cheny has committed mass murder at Fallujah and during the 1991 Gulf War on the highway of death.

[geek tragedy]

8. Well, learn the basic facts about North Korea and we'll talk.

I find it hard to believe that anyone is unaware of North Korea's appalling human rights record.

[KlatooBNikto]

11. I do not go by statements that you are prone to throw at me.Give me some

facts about Kim's track record.

[CatWoman]

29. you know, Geek

you seem hell bent on confrontation. Sheesh!!!!!!!

[Inland]

26. Maybe for knowing one. I hear it takes one to know one. nt

[Zuni]

2. so what if he has killed, tortured and starved

millions of his countrymen

He has a great sense of humor!

[ConfuZed]

5. If it was up to me I would throw cheney,bush,Kim and blair...

in an international prison they contribute nothing but pain,death and mayhem.

[KlatooBNikto]

6. I agree.

[rumpel]

9. Have a 2hr reality show from prison.

[AlCzervik]

10. Kim Il Jong is a blood thirsty murdering dictator with a Napoleon complex

aka little mans disease, please lets not give him credit even when he's right one time.

[KlatooBNikto]

13. After what the Bushes did with Saddam before and after he fell out of

favor, I would be very careful in swallowing our propaganda about foreign leaders, tyrants included.

[geek tragedy]

16. The only people who don't know of Lil Kim's horrific human rights record

are either ignorant or mentally ill.

[bahrbearian]

23. Once again give us a link , I'll give you a link to Chimpy's

Let's fix our own house 1st....instead of beating some drums..

[pretzel4gore]

14. why does the west criminalize contact with n. korea?

from what i understand, westerners are welcome in n. korea, which remains, like cuba and iran, outcasts mainly because they don't kowtow to west....and anyone who claims the western leadership's virtues are golden is a fukking liar..,..i only know n. korea refused to bend over for a good screwing after decolonialization...
>has anyone ever heard of the kwanghu massacre? it occurred back in the 80's(?) against the south korean's police statist government, and wages that (since then) created a unionist workforce that today has achieved decent living standards......but how many kids were murdered at kwanghu? Remember the almost daily riots that convulsed the South just a few years ago? When (clinton sec of state) madeline albright visited n. korea recently, the western press never covered the trip, and few, if any western newsmen went along...these the same bastards who have stood by while outright criminals have seized power in the US; which is the world's richest economy....yet the lying liars who lied about everything were telling TRUTH about n korea (which, remember, was communist)? Much like cuba and iran etc had to waste tremendous resources to maintain armies to prevent what happened to iraq happening to them, n. korea has had to do exactly that, with 50 thousand american troops on its border, plus a million or so south korean....i know very little about n. korea: but i know alot about our media, they are liars who want people to think in a certain way, which somehow always serves a certain gluttonous pig's interest! until we deal with these freaks, maybe we should leave n. korea alone, or at least let trusted reporters give us some idea of what's going on ('communism' would never have existed at all had the gluttonous pig not been so damn greedy)

[dad]

25. Westerners are not welcome in DPRK

I was station out there by the DMZ -- It is the most heavily guarded border in the world, and if you cross over the line, they'll shoot your ass.

[DistressedAmerican]

12. Kick and Nomination!

Sad when we only get the trust from evil despots we oppose!

Great posts today!!!

Check your PM's. I left you a note.

DA

[Sgent]

15. Even a bunch of monkey's can create shakespeare

with enough typewriters and time. N. Korea has possibly one of the worst human rights records of any country anywhere. Even if you assume everything the tin hatters say to be true, we don't come close in Faluja and Gitmo combined.

I took all of 10 seconds to research this, but its a good starting point. UN High Commissioner on Human Rights

From E/CN.4/RES/2005/11 of April 14, 2005....

Desiring to promote an open and constructive approach leading to concrete progress in the field of human rights,
1. Expresses its deep concern about continuing reports of systemic, widespread and grave violations of human rights in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, including:
(a) Torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, public executions, extrajudicial and arbitrary detention, the absence of due process and the rule of law, imposition of the death penalty for political reasons, the existence of a large number of prison camps and the extensive use of forced labour;
(b) Sanctions on citizens of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea who have been repatriated from abroad, such as treating their departure as treason leading to punishments of internment, torture, inhuman or degrading treatment or the death penalty;
(c) All-pervasive and severe restrictions on the freedoms of thought, conscience, religion, opinion and expression, peaceful assembly and association and on access of everyone to information, and limitations imposed on every person who wishes to move freely within the country and travel abroad;
(d) Continued violation of the human rights and fundamental freedoms of women, in particular the trafficking of women for prostitution or forced marriage, ethnically motivated forced abortions, including by labour inducing injection or natural delivery, as well as infanticide of children of repatriated mothers, including in police detention centres and labour training camps;

[pretzel4gore]

17. but, the UN hi comm. never said nada about falluja....

bush inc has committed atrocities on atrocities (depleted uranium is one example) year after year w/out the goofball UN doing/saying anything about it; for them to come out and help demonize an outnumbered, outgunned lil 3rd world nation which has been IN A STATE OF WAR with the US, under the UN banner, since the 50's, then fukkit (your litany of NK sins reads like saddam's reported excesses, circa 1990!)

[salin]

18. ugh

appreciated the response - as it is an ongoing petty tit for tat going on between him and our admin and makes them all look petty.

But his record is horrendous. I do understand skepticism per claims of abuses in this post iraq invasion era... however do some reading from multiple sources covering a period of time - and you will find a pretty awful situation for those in North Korea.

The Clinton's were leery - and thus acted quickly to stall NK's nuclear development - and the Clinton efforts were successful. But the efforts were steeped in a belief that the leader of NK was a little crazy - as in seperated from reality (ala our current white house denizens) in the sense that what would prevent other leaders from acting (eg the immediate repercussions) did not necessarily work to restrain his actions - making him a very dangerous person to be in charge of nuclear capabilities.

[undeterred]

19. "bloodthirsty beast" is a good way to describe Cheney

Lets make it our own.

[SmokingJacket]

20. A lot of megalomaniacal whackball types have their good points.

Using the word "like" might be a bit of a stretch.

[guajira]

21. Yeah, but he had nice things to say about Bushie!!

Because the Chimp called Kim "Mister". Still like him???

[WildEyedLiberal]

24. So totalitarian dictators who happen to hate Bush&Co are suddenly okay?

I thought we liberals hated Bush because he is a warmonger who has no concern for individual liberty and human rights, not simply because he "is". What's this bullshit about supporting brutal, repressive regimes because they happen to hate OUR brutal, repressive regime?

[jmaier]

28. Completely agree.

These sort of sentiments certainly do nothing to aid a progressive OR partisan Democratic cause.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

27. Seems like you have greater respect for Kim Jong Il than Dick Cheney.

Dick Cheney may be a lying, despicable, greedy fat cat asshole, but he's certainly not a mass-murdering dictator.

This thread is ridiculous, embarassing, and should be closed.

[CatWoman]

30. why should it be closed?

The OP is certainly entitled to his opinion, no?