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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:10 PM
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Can you name a name of a person who is **really** in charge of the US?

I think we can all agree that idiot son is in charge of nothing. He is a stupid man who's only purpose is to stand in front of cameras and babble deflective innanities.


Some speculate that Cheney is the force behind the throne. The wizard controlling the Oz that is idiot son. I think he's really working for Poppy to prevent idiot son from actually trying to do anything. In the end, Cheney's just a hired gun.


Rove is no more or less than a stage manager and scripter. He paves the way for them to keep power and accomplish what needs to be accomplished, but he isn't allowed near a policy. He's another hired hand, and one with a rather narrow role.


Rumsfeld is just a more likeable Cheney, but no less a hired gun. He controls nothing. He simply carries out orders .... ruthlessly.


Poppy is a real possibility. But I can't stop feeling that he's but the highest known, visible, link to WorldDomCentral. I think he's directly in the chain of command, but not the power. Although .... that legacy thing may mean something .....

..... yanno?

Is there one person?

http://www.ftlcomm.com:16080/ensign/desantisArticles/2002_600/desantis691/leader.jpg
Is the Carlyle Group running things as a committee?


Is it, perhaps, those Bedouin nomads-made-rich known as the Saudi Royals who really pull the strings?


Il Papem, maybe? And the whole church leadership? (Oooops! Wrong pope ... but you get the idea!)


Sun Myung Moon?

Who do you think is really atop the throne?


Is there a throne?

Is there only one person?

.... and a really scary thought ..... are there any of our 'beloved' Dems involved in any way in any part of this?

Or am I nuts?

Which I could well be ............
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:12 PM
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1. Oli and Garch.
For starters.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:13 PM
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2. The Snarley One!
Cheney most definitely......he has the "plan" and Rove implements it.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:15 PM
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3. Evil at the helm!
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:16 PM
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4. All except the first
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 02:17 PM by DrDebug
Bush is the patsy. He is the same guy as Osama.


Edit: Picture didn't show
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:18 PM
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5. Rove and Grover Norquist stage manage for the corporate bosses
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 02:23 PM by BrklynLiberal
who set the rules and determine which steps should be done in what order.
Bush is the Gumby puppet.

Edit: Corporate Bosses = DEFENSE WEAPON CONTRACTING, oil & energy, big pharma, insurance banking & finance, transportation, etc
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:21 PM
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6. I'd go double or nothing with the Carlyle Group...
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:24 PM
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7. Carlyle Groups biggest investments are in weapon contracts
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 02:25 PM by BrklynLiberal
ie They bet on making money on continuous worldwide warfare
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:31 PM
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8. Barbara Bush
I'm convinced that creature is the actual Antichrist. Her spawn is merely an incompetent demon.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:46 PM
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9. My best guess is...
descendants of 19th century robber barons and other "ultra-wealthy" US families, plus the royal families of Europe and other world families with long heritages in the unthinkably-rich business. Almost the entire world is owned by a hundred families or less, all intermarried to keep the wealth close. We're talking folks nobody's ever heard of who make Paris Hilton look like a homeless waif.

If they own it, you know they have some say in running it.


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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:49 PM
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10. The creators of American Idol....
after all, they get more votes!
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:49 PM
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11. Well it's a well know fact, sonny Jim
that there's a group of the five wealthiest people in the world known as the pentaverate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers. And meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion known as, the Meadows.

So who's in this pentaverate?

The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettes, The Rothchilds and Col. Sanders before he went tets up.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:56 PM
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12. Not one person. It's the Octopus. n/t
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:57 PM
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13. Kicked and Recommended for Greatest Page!
I think it's a combination of individuals/organizations, but I would really like to know who the linchpin(s) is/are. That is, who, if disabled in some way, would cause the momentum to die.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 03:07 PM
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14. Interesting point of view:
'That is, who, if disabled in some way, would cause the momentum to die.'

That's a really good way to look at it. Starkly asking who is in charge. One person.

I started this thread and was thinking it could be one person or it could be a committee.

But looking at it from the top down (if that's even possible), could it be that a lot of what we discuss (such as right here in my own post!) is just hot air? Is it possible that they are exactly what we see and nothing more? Oh sure, a few anonymous behind the scenes types, but, essentially they are just what we see .... a smallish group of (smallish) men who have convinced a lot of people, through some really slick marketing, to vote for them?

Nothing more?

And nothing less?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 03:13 PM
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15. Pug Winokur and his crew and the Carlyle gang.....but, they're operational
and they know HOW to make it happen for the masters they serve.....the Bushes, the Saudi Royals, King of Spain, British Royals, and the new guy, RevMoon.
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