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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:07 PM
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My New Tshirt Slogan Idea
after reading the utterly disgusting statements from joe biden and that hack john edwards. Stolen from the famous Steven Tyler shirt from when Aerosmith was more or less broken up and his "Who the fuck is Joe Perry?" tshirt

"Who the fuck is John Edwards?"

he was a horrible senator

a horrible VP choice

he's not even in office now and has no authority to be mouthing about the DNC chair.

he should do the world a favor and go kiss GOP ass somewhere else.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:09 PM
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1. Ruh Roh. I hope you have your flame retardant suit on!
:popcorn:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:12 PM
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4. If they can't take the heat
get the hell out of my way

if I wanted someone speaking the GOP party line, I'd vote republican.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:15 PM
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9. Hey dude! or dudette....
;) You're preaching to the choir when you preach that to me. I agree! The Democrats need to stand together. They wonder why we're not in power anymore? They need to look in the mirror.

:popcorn:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:26 PM
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15. Well "King" usually means "Male"
unless its in reference to the DLCers who keep their manhood in Karl Rove's back pocket and only are allowed use of it when it comes to attacking the Democratic platform and the ideals.

this party needs to be bigger than just one person, and it should be the ideals of whats made this party great. Dean is simply another player in a long line of people, from FDR to MLK Jr, who simply see that no one person is bigger than the Dream.

All edwards and biden care about is press and doing their master's bidding.

I crap bigger than john edwards.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:09 PM
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2. sorry, i don't agree with what he said but it's a little
quick to be disposing of him don't you think? One strike and you're out now?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:11 PM
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3. Wait -- I thought this was the democratic party?
So now Mr. Edwards needs to -- what? Not have his own thoughts?

:shrug:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:12 PM
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5. didn't you get the memo? No second chances anymore
:sarcasm:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:14 PM
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7. Oh sure he can have them
but he's out of the ballgame

he has his chance as a senator

as a presidential candidate

then as a VP candidate


sure he looks all smarmy in his lil tie with his sleeves rolled up and is charismatic, but he's a pro war neocon DLCer and if I wanted someone attacking OUR chairman, who IS speaking the truth, I'd be walking around wearing Factor gear and quoting Hannity.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:54 PM
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18. When is a democrat "out of the ballgame" exactly?
I never ran for office, and I'm very much IN the game.

And last time I looked, Mr. Dean was advocating running anti-choice candidates.

I'm a big fan of Dean's AND I respect Edward's right to speak his mind.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:58 PM
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19. I Agree with that in some aspects
Harry Reid is an "anti choice" candidate, and I was DEFINATELY wary of him as Minority Leader because of that, HOWEVER, he's definately been more on the attack than Tom Daschle ever was.

but Edwards is all looks and no substance. He's a neocon, to the right of bill clinton, maybe not completely in the same level as joe lieberman-hannity, but up there.

he was never a serious choice as a presidential contender, he was brought in (mistakenly) for VP to hopefully get southern votes and for his charm. otherwise, his positions are pretty interchangeable with arlen specter, george voinovich, and other neocon enablers.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 05:09 PM
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20. Tom Daschle For Harry Reid Was Trading Wishy Washy For Milquetoast!
Not much of an improvement in my book!

In this political climate having a Pro-Life leader of the party is a sick joke!
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 05:11 PM
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22. Oh I do agree
I'd rather have had russ feingold myself

the main thing is getting the DLC's grip on the party removed and the fascination with "clintonism" of compromise with criminals.

running to the middle does no good when the middle keeps moving to the right. the middle now is to the right of richard nixon!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 05:27 PM
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23. Maybe. And I don't negotiate with anti choice guys.
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 05:27 PM by sfexpat2000
But I notice that on most other things, Reid has been in their faces in a way Daschele just didn't put together.

And I betcha, if that one issue comes up, Harry will put some other Dem out there to speak.

These choice/anti choice positions don't really tell where people are, imho. It's just a calculated political risk they take or don't take. And I say that as a terminal pro-choicer. It's been reduced to code, and code is cheap nowadays. My .02, anyway.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 05:11 PM
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21. Peace. I think as a whole, the Dems are prying themselves
out of that role.

And I agree about Reid. He's been very effective and I'm glad he's in the position he's in. That was a good choice.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:16 PM
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10. Apparently, Senator Edwards should LIE and bow down to every comment
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 04:17 PM by ultraist
Guess we missed the boat when we didn't bow down to the rebel flag comment and but rather let Dean know that it was wreckless.

Fortunately, Dean APOLOGIZED for that comment and stated it was a MISTAKE to use a painful racist symbol.

Dean has CORRECTED this recent comment. Dean is fast and loose with his words sometimes. I'm sure he is aware of his tendency to do so.

YAAAAARGH!!!



:rofl:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:19 PM
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13. I'd rather have someone fast and loose
and has a point than someone who is smarmy and self centered who has The Right's points.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:12 PM
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6. Whatever...
Dean made an inappropriate comment, Edwards disagreed with the comment, Dean CORRECTED his comment this am.

Edwards was HONEST and said he did not agree with the comment. AGAIN, and I repeat, DEAN CORRECTED HIS STATEMENT because he realized it need to be CORRECTED.

Dean and Edwards get along great and have very similiar ideas about what direction the party should take. They have appeared together at events, such as the recent Take Back America conference. Did you see it?

You are eatting right out of the hand of the MSM who wants to create a problem within our party where one does not exist. More gossip, crapola from the MSM, so they don't have to report the real news.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:18 PM
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11. Nothing Dean said was inappropriate
if Edwards and Biden want to correct Dean, they should be men about it, pick up the phone, and call him up and simply say, "howard we think you're a good chairman, and a good fund raiser, but tone the rhetoric down."

instead of running off to the press

if Repubs get in heat they simply say, "no comment."

how hard is, "no comment."

or, "well, I like howard dean and we disagree on some things in our personal manner but we are united behind our party's platform."

oh but that would mean edwards and biden would have to pry their sacks out of karl rove's talking points purse and ask for permission from the DLC massas to actually STAND UP for being a Democrat.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:34 PM
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16. Dean did not make an inappropriate comment!!!!!
He was talking about the elected officials in Washington, and how they had NO IDEA what it was like to have to wait in line for 4 hours or more to VOTE! Yes, he did say most Republicans never had a real job, and if you take a close look at ALL of those elected to the House and the SEnate, I think you'll be hard pressed for find ANY, on either side, who ever had to wait in line for anything, let alone cast their vote!

When are you going to realize that the MSM cherry pick comments from all dems, and state them out of context!

I would have had no problem if Biden and Edwards would have said, Dean was talking about my fellow Pub Senators, and I do know some who hold real jobs before they got elected! But he didn't!!! He let the insinuation that Dean meant all Pubs stand, and that was WRONG!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:14 PM
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8. John back off the DNC Chair! The DNC Chair IS A GREAT MAN!
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:18 PM
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12. He was chosen as running mate because he looks good.
He brought nothing interesting at all to the table during the campaign.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:23 PM
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14. Yeah exactly
"well I would have invaded Iraq too but would have done it differently."


"I would have invaded France and the Soviet Union but would have done it differently."


maybe Edwards should move to Tennessee and run for Bill Frist's seat in 2008 as a republican if he's in such a big hurry to "Support the President."

I'm sorry, but I'm a Democrat, and I'm a bit sick and tired of the "You're absolutely right, Sean (hannity)" wing of the DLC Party of Bush.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:35 PM
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17. Hollow, Pretty Boy! Nothing More! Of Course Kerry Was A Gigantic Mistake
as well. I worked my ass off during the primaries for a candidate that was willing to take a clear and unambiguous stand against this illegal and immoral war. Sadly Kerry bought Iowa With 5 million of his own dollars and the rest was just a slide into the nomination.

Where is the OPPOSITION PARTY WING of the Democratic organization?

That is the only we will overthrow these freeptard assholes.

No more compromises. No more candidates who refuse to separate themselves CLEARLY from that other party. No more candidates who voted for the Iraq War Resolution. No more who voted for the patriot act.

Until they start acting like OUR ELECTED REPS they can kiss my ass.

We are their base. Not some wishy washy moderate fence sitters and "undecideds". Anyone still sitting on the fence at this point in this fascist takeover needs to get knocked right off of it!
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