E. Howard Hunt calls "Deep Throat" a traitor

[Bluebear]

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050605/APN/506050846

E. Howard Hunt, a former CIA operative and who recruited five men to break into the Watergate hotel, has criticized the man who came forward as Deep Throat.

Hunt, 86, was imprisoned for 33 months after the Watergate scandal forced President Richard Nixon from office. W. Mark Felt, 91, was the key source in The Washington Post's Watergate investigation.

"Nothing that Mr. Felt did was acceptable. It was traitorous of him to accept a paycheck from the federal government and do what he did," Hunt said in an interview at his suburban Miami home. His remarks were published Sunday in The Miami Herald.

"Only a person without quality, as I call Mr. Felt, would contact a major newspaper ... That's detestable," Hunt said.

[DrDebug]

1. Pot Calling Kettle Black

Howard Hunt is:
* Guatemala coup
* Bay of Pigs
* Operation PBSUCCESS
* opened 50 stations in Mexico to embarrass the USSR
* Chief of Propaganda
* Watergate
...




http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/nixon.html

A guy with such a long record of deceipt and dirty operations...

[Deja Q]

2. Then Felt shouldn't have taken the money and still squeal?

Sorry, being ETHICAL is what counts. I'm fuckin' tired of "if you take my money, you must obey me in all things" bull shit.

[azmesa207]

3. E Howard Hunt

The only detestable people are the like of Hunt, Buchanan ,Liddy ,Colson.

[efhmc]

4. SURprise, SURprise!!

[Gman]

5. The last line here should really read:

"Only a person without quality, as I call Mr. Felt, would contact a major newspaper ... That's detestable," the convicted felon Hunt said.

Ha! A person that served 33 months in prison for the Watergate breakin has the unmitigated, unqualified gall to say anything like this. Hunt should crawl back into the hell hole from which he came, close the lid, stay there and then beg the American people for forgiveness. Sorry, no good, son of a bitch, bastard.

[htuttle]

6. BREAKING: Capone says "Eliot Ness is a jerk."

[Cha]

31. Big SMile!

:D

[Zen Democrat]

7. Hilarious! As if Hunt wasn't getting government paychecks!

The taxpayers were paying him while he was doing all those illegal black bag jobs and he condemns the whistleblower. How apropos of the whole diseased right-wing machine.

[EVDebs]

8. According to Jim Hougan, who is emailing re Vanity Fair Felt's an impostor

The real Deep Throat is a Republican Senator from UT, Sen Robert F. Bennett.

See
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/05/more-on-mark-felt-deep-throat-and.html

Also, see Bob Harris'
http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/07.03.97/scoop-9727.html

The CIA is really behind the Deep Throat cover-up.

[lala_rawraw]

20. I will always believe that Deep Throat...

Was a "look over there" instead of "over here" kind of guy. If anyone honestly believes that CIA assets would break into Watergate just to "bug" it, they should remember that the FBI's top man would have, much like Hoover, gotten on all fours to do the bugging himself. You don't send a clean up crew to bug, they go clean up.

I will always believe, not matter what, that Deep Throat would have wanted:

-to want to control where the reporters were looking as well as stay ahead of them by knowing what they were looking into

-to direct the path of their investigation to keep it focused on the baggies, not Watergate itself

Motivation: Throat could have exposed any number of crimes and cover ups, bigger even, and more disturbing. He did not, however. Throat had a motivation, but what? The revenge thing is stupid. He was not promoted so he went to the press to reveal what he himself has to be partly complicit in? No, the motive would have to be something much more important: the break in itself. Much like with Gannongate, where the hooker element took over the real crimes and issues, the partial truth abortion was nicely used here as well. Take a crime and expose it to cover up a bigger, more dangerous crime.

Given who broke in and their previous history in the special plans department, it is hard to imagine that they were their to bug the office. They are killers, drug runners, and such. What is more likely, they broke into wire tap or they broke in to do their plumbing job?

That would mean they went there for a reason, because there was already a wire tap and they knew why they were going. If there was already a wire tap, then I imagine the FBI new it too, just as the FBI knew Hunt and friends and what/who they were long before Watergate.

I don't place deep throat at the FBI, I place Throat at CIA, in plans even and with access to money.

A CIA throat would know why the plumbers were really there and be able to control the situation after the break in.

Now, if we look at Woodwards unprecedented access to the * family, then we need to look back and ask where pappy was during these events in the past.

Knowing what the ships were named, those landing in Cuba during the bay of pigs, what that operation was, who was involved in that, and such. Knowing what we know about Nixon's obsession with calling a "certain" murder the "bay of pigs", and knowing all that we know and have discussed at various times here... I am more convinced than ever that if Felt was talking to Woodward, he was doing it on the orders of pappy, and the real throat, if not front and center, is/was pappy.


Okay, feel free to change my mind.

[DrDebug]

27. I don't want to change your mind. I'll just continue on that mindset

Indeed what was so important to break in for. And I think a logical explanation is some documents relating to the JFK assassination. Because the JFK assassination must have had people in the Democratic party involved as well.

So there was a high likelyhood that there was evidence in that building, but since the Republicans came to power it became dangerous since somebody could find it and reopen JFK and Nixon et al. didn't want that. "That Bay of Pigs thing" should come into the open.

I just posted this on another story. I guess I pasted it on the wrong post.



John Edgar Hoover November, 29th 1963

Our Miami, Florida, Office on November 23, 1963, advised that the office of coordinator of Cuban Affairs in Miami advised that the Department of State feels some misguided anti-Castro group might capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy might herald a change in U.S. policy, which is not true. ...

The substance of the investigation was orally furnished by George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and captain William (can't read) of the Defense Inteligence Agency on November 23(25?), 1963, by Mr. W.T. Forsyth of this Bureau

http://www.internetpirate.com/bush.htm

What it says is that 'some Cubans' wanted to use the JFK assassination to raise a war against Cuba, but that there was no change in policy (read: the plan was called off).

So that Bays of Pigs. That's the Cubans. And that's one of the Texans (Bush, Baker and Mosbacher ) For those who don't know it. Richard Nixon always called those three things by code name. He was scared of the 'Cubans', 'Texans' and that 'Bay of Pigs thing'.


Edit: Mosbacher added.

[MichiDem]

29. I can't imagine why

a campaign office for McGovern would have any info on the Kennedy
assasination.

[DrDebug]

32. Because it happened on their watch

If JFK was MIHOP then there would have been people who knew about it and they were hoping to continue the presidency.

Right now nobody knows what exactly was taken for that building. And why it was that important to send E. Howard Hunt - one of their aces - to break in. They could have used some low guys, but Watergate was done by the big CIA guys.

[MichiDem]

33. Wasn't Hunt

former CIA?

[DrDebug]

34. Yep. He was one of the big guys

He did everything for them. He was the project leader for Guatemala. He was in Bay of Pigs. He was setting up offices in Mexico to fight the Russian. He was in Turkey trying to destablize East Europe.

And he was probably on Deley Plaza as one of the tramps. (See picture in the beginning of this story).

He must have been just as big as George Bush. They were both undercover and literally the undercover bosses.

[EVDebs]

39. The piece of tape, that was put onto the door horizontally

and became the name of McCord's book, explains it all. No watchman or cop could MISS it.

The CIA/FBI wanted no part of a centralized domestic intelligence rearrangement such as the White House's Huston Plan; the military wanted Nixon out because they blew the SALT talks on the Soviet Delta subs and missiles (p. 246-247 Blind Man's Bluff) along with potentially losing the 'out of uniform' POWs from the drug ops in Laos (see Kiss The Boys Goodbye by the Stevensons). Add it up and it's a perfect storm ... ready to take out Nixon.

Plus look at Ben Bradlee's and Bob Woodward's naval intelligence backgrounds, Alexander Butterfield's intelligence background, Robert F. Bennett working for the CIA-- who even now Woodward refuses to acknowledge in print as CIA ! Oh, and don't forget the burglars...

Everything flows after Feb 1971 and the taping system set up, and by that time the Pentagon Papers, started in the late 60's with Daniel Ellsberg and ready to be printed in June 1971... They wanted the war to end and Nixon out...but who does Nixon put into So. Vietnam in 1973 as ambassador but Graham A. Martin, whose own foster son was kia in Nov 1965 in the war (see Glenn Dill Mann bio at
http://www.popasmoke.com/kia/incidents.php?incident_id=35 ). Martin would have had the US still pouring money in today !

[lala_rawraw]

9. Maybe Hunt should read Liberty Lobby, as a refresher...

I do believe that participating in the assassination of a President would qualify as treason. Going to the press because a government is corrupt is not treason. The 1st amendment includes freedom of the press for a reason. Also, spying inside the US is something the CIA was not permitted to do and Mr. Hunt, along with his fellow hit man/plumber/talk show host friend G. Gordon were in fact subverting the law.

In addition, Mr. Hunt's long history of involvement in drug running and weapons running and attacking another country without the President's permission (Pay of Pigs), would make him the poster boy of a traitor. His kids should be really proud. Their father committed crimes against this country, against the people of this country, and against democracy. Benedict Hunt and Benedict Liddy know loyalty to their wallets not duty or respect to/for the country.

The mere fact of watching these criminals flailing around on TV only compounds the whorish inadequacy of our media. We just need the Iran Contra drug dealers, gun smugglers, and child traffickers to join the parade/freak show.

If the GOP had any redemption left it would have run backward from this groups of criminals who use words like integrity and honor to talk about crimes against America for drug money. Come on now, if I have to hear another one of these murderers chirp the word traitor, then I will have to scream the word TREASON. They should have been tried as traitors with no possible life given. Instead some of these crooks were pardoned, and Kissinger, that cancer on the world should have been taken to the Hague.

The fact that Freepers and Creepers cheer these criminals, their heroes shows you just the level of their so called moral values.

[KingOfLostSouls]

10. E. Howard Hunt

can kiss my black ass

[xray s]

11. A traitor to a fascist is a hero to me

[lala_rawraw]

22. Wait, what Throat did was not treason... what Hunt did, was/is

Treason. I find it astonishing that these thugs, killers, drug dealers, and child traffickers are even given face time.

[MGKrebs]

12. Ah yes, allegiance to 'the people' is treason?

Hunt's allegiance to the junta that tried to take America from the people by force is the treason.

[Vinca]

13. It amazes me the warped sense of ethics these felons have. nt

[madrchsod]

14. who really gives a fuck?

amazing how all the rats have came out of their holes to shit on one of their own. this is all so yesterday but it`s good cover for bush and his growing memo problem...

[EVDebs]

40. NO ! It shows how we need the CIA to turn on Bush and get him out !

[indepat]

15. Every Federal employee is to be loyal to the Republican president,

no matter how unlawful or unconstitutional his actions might be. The oaths of office high-ranking Federal officials take is to protect, defend and preserve the Republican president and his action, not the Constitution of the United States. By golly, think I got it!

[maveric]

16. Its funny that all these guys who went to jail because of Watergate

and who were caught "breaking the law" are calling the the guy who blew the whistle on them a traitor!
This is fucking comically RICH!

[Massacure]

17. Is this the same Hunt that Dwight D. Eisenhower called stupid?

[DrDebug]

18. That was H.L. Hunt

A stupid Texas oil millionair. Buddy of the Bushes of course.

[chaska]

19. Proof positive that old age and wisdom do not necessarily equate.

Damned old fool.

[MichiDem]

21. Could he, should he,

have done something different?

Referring to Felt.

I'm just asking.

[Bluebear]

24. You're asking me? I don't even buy that Felt was Deep Throat!

:hi:

[MichiDem]

26. Why isn't

Woodward & Bernstein's word good enough for you?

[Bluebear]

36. You think Felt acted alone?

[MichiDem]

37. I don't think anything.

:crazy:

[Bluebear]

38. Here's some interesting reading for ya

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8085423/

[MichiDem]

41. Thanks for th link

This one doesn't do much for me:

Question #6. Garage-skulking. All The President’s Men has Felt-Throat meeting Woodward at all hours of the night, in at least one underground parking lot. He has Felt Throat writing notes inside Woodward’s home delivered copies of the New York Times, and watching Woodward’s patio to see if the reporter was asking him for a meeting by sticking a red flag in a flower pot. Asked about that by Ted Koppel yesterday, Felt-Throat’s attorney and Vanity Fair biographer John O’Connor said simply “You got me — Mark certainly doesn’t remember it.”

After all Felt certainly knew what the answer should have been.

[EVDebs]

46. "The CIA is doing it"....p 317 All The Prez's Men

But they needn't have feared for their lives...The CIA wanted Nixon out !

[lala_rawraw]

25. No, what should have happened is that HUNT

Should have been executed for treason, but instead, got to blackmail Nixon for a while. This guy is a sick bastard with a grotesque history. He even makes Rove look like a boy scout. If Felt is being called a traitor by Hunt, he should take as the highest of compliments.

[saltpoint]

23. Posters here have it nailed pretty good.

I would no more ask Howard Hunt for his input on true patriotism and citizenship than I would enroll a daughter or niece in the Ted Kennedy Driver Training School.

[applegrove]

28. Right. Democratic voters should all have their vote taken away because

Hunt felt it was important and so bugged the DNC office. :rofl: Now please - tell me about all your views Mr. Hunt because they are very, very important to me. I want every detail of how you feel to count.

:rofl:

[Cha]

30. "TRAITOR"...Mark Felt! "You helped send

me to prison for 33 freakin' months when I could have been out enjoying the good life at the American people's expense."


Go fuck yourself(a la dick cheney)..e howard hunt.

[Just Me]

35. Hunt was the traitor. He sold his soul to shit on America.

Everyone who attacks the man who exposed their crimes are traitors. Each and every single one betrayed their country and their people. Each and every single on of them, including the megalomaniacs in control of our present executive and legislative branches, would FUCK the American people, exploit our people,...in any and every position imaginable.

These people are EVIL human beings who don't give a damn about the best interests of humanity. They HATE any part of humanity that opposes tyranny.

[Logansquare]

42. I'm really beginning to think he was in on murdering his wife

and 44 other people when Flight 533 crashed in Chicago. He is a disgusting individual.

[Jose Diablo]

43. Everybody here 'gets it'

Insofar as Equardo is concerned. Just shows how well the old spin machine worked in the 70's too. So much for the media being on top of it back then. You think the news said much about Vietnam before the bags started coming home. Ha.

Sure Nixon took one for the team, but they came back in full force, so we have what you see today. Ford replaced him for more of the same. Did you know Ford was on the Warren Commission?

Bu$h should have answered for JFK long long ago. If that had happened, Ronnie would have never made it out of California. No United Fruit company screwing Latin America. No arms for Iran, and junior would have been a distant bad memory as would the rest of his tribe.

See how much crap these people have done? Damn.

Edit:In Doonesbury; Roland, the crack reporter comes from the 70's. Now why would Gary invent some idiot self-serving hack like Roland? Gary didn't think much of most reporters even then.

[Octafish]

44. Hunt looks in the mirror and sees a traitor.

Among his many treasons, E Howard Hunt put fake diplomatic cables in his White House safe in an attempt to incriminate JFK in the killings of Vietnamese presidnet Diem in November 1963. What purpose could these serve, other than to blacken the Kennedy name? Try obscuring the trail of President Kennedy's assassins.

[rainman99]

45. Only the crooks will believe these crroks so I'm not worried about them.

[NoPasaran]

47. "A person without quality"

A pretty ironic turn of phrase for a FUCKING CRIMINAL!

Too bad all the Watergate felons weren't sent to the electric chair. There'd be noticeably less hypocrisy afoot today. And if they'd been joined by all the Iran-Contra scumbags, half the jobs in the Busholini regime would be unfilled.

[ProfessorGAC]

48. Another Felon Heard From

Isn't it interesting that anybody cares what a convicted criminal thinks about this? Of course, if you left out the convicted criminals, all we'd have was Stein and Buchanan.
The Professor

[fujiyama]

49. .

[fujiyama]

50. Another indication

of republican ethics.

According to these people, being loyal to the president is being loyal to your country.

Sorry Hunt, I assume that Felt took an oath when he joined the FBI to uphold the law and defend the constitution from all threats - whether they be domestic, or international.

Ordering a break in, covering it up, among other things, DO violate the law.

What amuses me is these people say "Felt should have reported the wrong doing to the authorities".

To who? The Justice Dept that was controlled by Nixon?

God, are these people full of shit or what?