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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:16 AM
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BREAKING: supreme court has power to stop medical marijuana use
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 09:18 AM by mopaul
and arrest those sick people who use it
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:18 AM
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1. Ki---(cough! cough!) kick
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:21 AM
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2. feds my prosecute smokers who claim it helps them
fed has power to continue to enforce federal law against possessing.

even in states that allow it.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:22 AM
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5. Just another
"put this in your pipe and smoke it" from the "not so" right.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:21 AM
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3. What are they going to do, raid peoples' homes personally?
Watch out people, the Black-Robed Thugs (BRTs) are coming.

:crazy:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:22 AM
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6. yes they are and it's not joke
what a shame. Not unexpected, though.

Watch out, Californians. I think you are about to be pounded into submission ...
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:24 AM
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8. On behalf of medical MJ users here I say "Bring it on!"
This could be one of the greatest States' Rights issues ever.

BTW it's not just California. Arizona has a similar medical MJ law, and I believe there are others.

:nuke:
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:28 AM
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12. I love how they think that it can be stopped
I don't just envision a crackdown in dispensaries, I think they'll go after head shops and hydro stores, the whole 9 yards.

Sadly, not enough mainstream Americans support this basic right - until they are the ones who are suffering and needs meds.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:38 AM
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16. They've already got head shops cowed
A friend of mine who actually has a note from her doctor recommending she use cannabis for a medical condition got kicked out of The Black in Ocean Beach (suburb of San Diego) for saying the word "bong".

Unfuckingbelievable.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:57 AM
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22. don't use the word's 'bong' or 'chong' around mixed company
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:05 AM
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28. hell it's easier to get from a punk than a doctor
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:23 AM
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7. here in Oregon
They have been trying to prosecute doctors that prescribe MM.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:21 AM
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4. unbelievable
In so many ways.

I'm watching MSNBC while writing a letter that I am going to send to all of the 'news' outlets asking them if there is any truth to the rumor that the news has been canceled, when the "news reader" breaks in with the headline from the SC, and then says we'll get to that story in a moment, and then goes with the story about the young woman missing in Aruba. UNBELIEVABLE!!

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:24 AM
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9. so, fuck sick people, no pain relief, no stem cell, no cheap meds
fuck the sick in other words.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:26 AM
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11. no access to health care, either
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:24 AM
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10. That's just horrid! Insensitive bastards!
Where's these Right Wingers LOVE for *states' rights*? The government (federal) should NOT have the power to impose this upon INDIVIDUAL STATES.

Damn!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:39 AM
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17. they are liars and have fooled their followers
who back states rights so fervently. I've noticed, whatever these crooks say, you can count on them doing the opposite.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:09 AM
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30. The radical right has no use for states rights
They want to make this a theocratic oligarchy. Fascism at its worst.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:34 AM
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13. Cough! cough!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:34 AM
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14. link here:
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 09:35 AM by wicket
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:35 AM
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15. thanks!
who smoke pot on doctors' orders, the Supreme Court ruled Monday, concluding that state medical marijuana laws don't protect users from a federal ban on the drug.

The decision is a stinging defeat for marijuana advocates who had successfully pushed 10 states to allow the drug's use to treat various illnesses.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:32 AM
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33. this is a sad day
And an infuriating one! :grr:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:05 AM
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34. i agree
as long as they can equate pot with crack in the public's mind, it will continue
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:40 AM
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18. silly me i thought the court was
republican controlled states rights types who want to limit the federal government? the war on drugs kills another right.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:31 AM
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32. Justice Stevens (not exacly a consservative Republican)
actually wrote the majority opinion for the case.

Justice John Paul Stevens, writing the decision, said that Congress could change the law to allow medical use of marijuana.

Stevens said there are other legal options for patients, "but perhaps even more important than these legal avenues is the democratic process, in which the voices of voters allied with these respondents may one day be heard in the halls of Congress."

more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-06-06-medical-marijuana_x.htm
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:42 AM
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19. Well, I Agree They Have Jurisdiction
and that the federal government has the authority to criminalize marijuana even if states legalize it. I just don't think the current laws are a very wise use of those powers.

What this decision really does is to show the double standards of the small-government, states-rights conservatives.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:55 AM
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21. they should just drop the states rights issue
they only use it with pot and the confederate flag
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:55 AM
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20. I get the feeling there's some kind of War Against the Sick going on...
Otherwise, I don't get all this shit.

The health and happiness of the people of this nation have never been held in lower regard than by the current administration. Why? You'd think healthy workers would enrich them, right? But no. They want us all to suffer and die.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:58 AM
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23. IRONY- the Freeps agree with us
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:00 AM
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25. amazing but true
the mob maybe? in cahoots with the guvmint?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:00 AM
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26. I don't see any irony in that at all
Supporting medical MJ because of states' rights or basic libertarianism makes no difference to me, and among Freepers I'd wager you can find both. Both positions are IMO correct and valid.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:21 AM
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35. For anyone looking for irony, read the dissenting opinion
By Justice Clarence Thomas. He's the ONLY one on the court who got it right.

... As I explained at length in United States v. Lopez, 514 U.S. 549 (1995), the Commerce Clause empowers Congress to regulate the buying and selling of goods and services trafficked across state lines. Id., at 586—589 (concurring opinion). The Clause’s text, structure, and history all indicate that, at the time of the founding, the term “ ‘commerce’ consisted of selling, buying, and bartering, as well as transporting for these purposes.” Id., at 585 (Thomas, J., concurring). Commerce, or trade, stood in contrast to productive activities like manufacturing and agriculture. Id., at 586—587 (Thomas, J., concurring). Throughout founding-era dictionaries, Madison’s notes from the Constitutional Convention, The Federalist Papers, and the ratification debates, the term “commerce” is consistently used to mean trade or exchange–not all economic or gainful activity that has some attenuated connection to trade or exchange. Ibid. (Thomas, J., concurring); Barnett, The Original Meaning of the Commerce Clause, 68 U. Chi. L. Rev. 101, 112—125 (2001). The term “commerce” commonly meant trade or exchange (and shipping for these purposes) not simply to those involved in the drafting and ratification processes, but also to the general public. Barnett, New Evidence of the Original Meaning of the Commerce Clause, 55 Ark. L. Rev. 847, 857—862 (2003)....

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-1454.ZD1.html
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:59 AM
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24. COTTON FARMERS lobby, PAPER MILL lobby, ALCOHOL lobby, PILL Maker lobby
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 10:00 AM by sam sarrha
it is a labyrinth of Lobbies.. BIG F*CKING MONEY !!!! Absolutely NO OTHER REASON..!!

and the RepugNuts treat anyone who disagrees with them as Misbehaving Children... and get a Real Big Hard-on when they can step the sick and dis-enfranchised.. particularly the ones they created..
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:00 AM
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27. So if I can't eat without it
and I starve, that makes them compassionate conservatives, right?

Demonize and criminalize a person who only seeks to end their own suffering, and call yourself the best interpretor of a Constitution PRINTED ON HEMP PAPER and composed by those WHO GREW MARIJUANA in those early days.

Careful America, your cruel, twisted, insatiable greed is showing...
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:08 AM
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29. Oh great, herald the new age of official ignorance.
"We're moving back in time, and loving it!"
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:14 AM
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31. hack! hack! choke! choke!
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