Mediawhores will trot out UK freeper newsies to discredit DSMinutes.

[blm]

Martin Walker is one, he works for Moonie Central, UPI.

Sir Jeffery Archer - excuse me, Lord Jeffery Archer, the writer, is a known BushInc type (readTHUG) conservative. He's tight with the Thatcher spawn who was caught engineering that coup. He often uses his literary skills to protect the fascist agenda.

Anyone know other Brit freeper-types we should be aware of, especially over the next week? I wouldn't put it past BushInc to try to push the idea that the UK debunked the report.

[underpants]

1. ~"See they are British so they know all about this"

:eyes:

[blm]

6. Exactly. Sad how Americans fall for freeper BS sold with British accents.

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[Cha]

2. You betcha! Any lyin'

mediawhore they can dredge up.


"Anyone know other Brit freeper-types we should be aware of, especially over the next week? I wouldn't put it past BushInc to try to push the idea that the UK debunked the report."

You mean like they pushed the idea that sadam had "Weapons of Mass Destruction"?

"ST LOUIS POST DISPATCH ***
WMD: Weapons of Mass Deception

Do you remember, lo those many weeks ago, when it was still permissible to ask why our soldiers were dying in Iraq, and to count the civilian casualties, and to follow the money trail? No? If the mainstream press continues down the path that's charted in this late-arriving documentary, the debate that recently galvanized the electorate will become as hard to remember as the tradition of investigative journalism.

Danny Schechter is a former ABC news producer who knows, literally and figuratively, where the bodies are buried. Now working as a "self-embedded" media critic, Schechter turns his lens on the industry itself, specifically how it covered the invasion of Iraq. ....it's still vitally important."


More..
http://www.wmdthefilm.com/mambo/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=31

[blm]

3. Yeah. They used Hitchens alot back then.

Since this DSM is centered in UK, I expect a fullcourt press from British-accented Bushmoonies.

[fujiyama]

12. Yep

I expect his drunken ass to show up rambling on about the how the "US brought Iraq freedom".

[tjwmason]

4. No way they'll use Archer

(It's a minor point but he's actually Lord Archer not Sir Jeffrey.)

He's been convicted of perjury, his name is utterly discredited, and he is a Conservative Party peer - I cannot imagine him being used to support a Labour government by either side.

[blm]

5. Americans don't know that. They see his name in most bookstores in US.

They have no idea that he's a con artist thug given cover by his political connections to the fascist rightists in UK.

[tjwmason]

9. Still - he's a convicted criminal who spent time in prison for perjury

Even the ineffectual leadership of the Democratic Party would point that out.

[blm]

10. Depends on who the news networks book on the shows. I doubt most

of the pundit types they like to use would even know much about Archer other than he's a best-selling writer.

[tjwmason]

14. That is naive in the extreme

As I say, it is a matter of very open public record that he lied under oath, that he was convicted of it, and that he was sent to prison for it. Given that, there is no way at all that he would be used by the American right.

Also, has it occured to you that he wouldn't want to take part? He's a British Tory, and whilst they tend to support the invasion of Iraq they despise poodle-boy with a vehemence at least equal to that on the left. During the recent election the party leader dropped normal political etiquette and called Blair a liar. Bush is not particularly popular among British Tories either.

Archer's a total non-starter.

[blm]

16. I'm not saying *I* don't know Archer's a crook, but America media KEEPS

the public naive about alot of things. I demonstrated in my opening post that I know Archer's a crook of the worst sort.

But, most Americans and even media pundits would only know him as a best-selling author. Naive? DAMN RIGHT, it's naive!! But, that's what we have in America....an under-informed public who regularly get their information from a media that WELCOMES crooks like Liddy, Novak, North, et al, to spew their opinions.

[tenshi816]

15. Jeffrey Archer?! LOLOLOLOLOL

The man is a congenital liar! Yeah, boy, getting a guy who went to prison for perjury is a really good choice for them to use, isn't it? :sarcasm:

Here's a link to the transcript for the 19 July 2001 BBC Panorama programme about him, Jeffrey Archer: A Life of Lies - http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/audio_video/programmes/panorama/transcripts/transcript_19_07_01.txt and another link to the actual BBC News page referring to the programme: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/archer/1437276.stm

Then again, maybe Archer would be a natural choice, a proven liar called on to help other liars tell lies...

[kiki]

17. Fun facts about Jeffrey Archer:

Jeffrey Archer unceremoniously plagiarised a story entered by an aspiring writer into a short story competition that he was judging.

One of Jeffrey Archer's former editors described his pre-edited work as "sub-literate".

Jeffrey Archer used to train some of my old school friends in rugby. He would pull hard on their hair to get their attention, and make the half-hour minibus drive to the field without saying a single word to any of them.

My brother crashed a car through Jeffrey Archer's back garden wall.

[tenshi816]

18. Hope your brother wasn't hurt

and that his car insurance didn't skyrocket, but I equally hope he did some devastating damage to the Archers' garden wall.

Another fun Archer fact: His Oxford education he is so fond of boasting about was a post-graduate diploma in Education, and he was admitted in the first place by lying about his undergraduate qualifications.

I think his edited work is sub-literate and have never understood how he sells so many books!

God, I loathe the Archers, her as well as him. Poisonous vipers, they are.

[kiki]

19. My brother was fine.

Jeffrey's wall wasn't. When I said "through", I meant "through".

[johnaries]

7. Post in the UK forum, they'll be able to give us plenty of warnings! n/t

[LSK]

8. ask them how Blairs party did in the elections

[phoebe]

11. worth looking at again in case Bush denies Blair

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/17/iraq/main563751.shtml

from 2003

snip

In what amounted to a telephone negotiation, a top NSC official, Robert Joseph, told CIA analyst Alan Foley he wanted cite-specific quantities and locations of uranium in the State of the Union. Foley told Joseph that intelligence, which was similar to statements removed from a previous presidential address, shouldn't be used. Joseph, sources say, explained that wouldn't leave much and asked if they could quote from the British report. Foley said that, too, was suspect, but he did finally agree it would be "technically" correct if the NSC laid the claim off on the Brits.

CIA Director George Tenet, though, was not made aware of the discussion, didn't read a draft of the State of the Union and never saw it delivered – he was home asleep at the time.

Mr. Bush didn't respond directly when asked Thursday whether he took responsibility for the now-discredited statement, saying, "I take responsibility for putting troops into action. I take responsibility for making the tough decision to put together a coalition to remove Saddam Hussein."

The president added that American and British intelligence "made a clear and compelling case that Saddam Hussein was a threat to security and peace."

Worth repeating that Bush said "I take responsibility for putting troops in action. I take responsibility for making the tough decision to remove Saddam Hussein."

[Cats Against Frist]

13. Fucking Brilliant

You have to admit it. They are the most evil geniuses of all time. Someone said, earlier, "right, just because they have an English accent, that means they know everything and they're right."

Exactly, my friend. Exactly, I can almost see Karl Rove's fat fingers dialing the phone to AEI to tell them to get "people with British accents," on every show, because the "Core 'muricans," won't bother to find out that they all work for Rove, Murdoch and the Moonies, and will just think they're "officials" from Britain.

I'll say it, again. WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL OF OUR EVIL GENIUSES??? ODDS ARE WE HAVE TO HAVE A FEW.