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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:56 PM
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Who else thinks Al Franken was set up by DOD?
In case you missed it Al had a caller who he put on at the request of the Dept of Defense. The guy came across as just the sweetest , most clueless man you can imagine. He didn't know shit about shit. So Franken starts questioning him and the guy goes into thank your viewers for their support mode. Made Franken look mean and against the troops. That had to have been a set-up. Its classic. Franken was really upset at the way the call went and explained that he was "hornswaggled" by the military.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:58 PM
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1. Is there an audio link?
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:01 PM
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2. What kind of questions was Franken asking?
How did he come off looking mean?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:08 PM
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5. He politely asked the guy if he thought
the military had a credibility problem, and the guy in this soft spoken voice said no he didn't think so and he sure did appreciate the support of the people. It was god-awful
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:23 PM
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15. I didn't hear the interview but...
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 01:26 PM by skypilot
...I'd have to say that if Franken asked that question he was just asking to get smacked down (if he, in fact, did). Did he say "military" or "military leadership"? Because if he asked "does the military have a credibility problem?" it's not hard to see how that could be turned against him. I'm sure I know what he meant but it sounds as though he worded it poorly.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:04 PM
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3. I turned it off because I felt it would end that way.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 01:04 PM by izzybeans
The guy played the part well, it seemed he had no clue what was going on. He was in "strategic command" and probably never left the green zone. He spent most of the time trying to push through talking points. So I turned it. those exchanges never end well.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:06 PM
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4. I just heard that and have a different impression
As I listened, I thought Franken handled the interview quite well. He was very gentle with the guy and expressed how Americans all support the troops no matter how we feel aobut the war.

I just have a different impression. It certainly was a delicate interview
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:09 PM
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6. how DARE you not agree with me
:)
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:14 PM
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7. only bolton would respond like that
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:21 PM
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12. Hee!
Why-y-y-y.....yo-o-o-u-u-u!

Actually, I do agree that the DOD was trying to set him up and was just coming back to add dome more to post.

I was listening to the interview he's doing right now and the guest was pointing out that the DOD probably asked for this interview since their image is quite tarnished. And then he went on to talk about Jessica Lynch and Tillman as examples of why.

Doesn't this all smack of how there's this concerted effort against AAR recently. So, I have the feeling that Franken sensed it and took a very careful approach. Walking on eggs since it was a trap. And I smell the work of Rove here, too.

I'm going to catch the show on Sundance tonight to get a sense of how it feels being able to watch it. I hope they include this segment!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:38 PM
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20. The Jessica Lynch stuff worked, though.
A couple weeks ago I was at work and a customer said something about, I think it was, a TV show and mentioned a connection to that poor girl that the Iraqis tortured that the troops rescued, how the Iraqis broke her legs and tortured her and...

I told her that it never happened, and that Lynch herself denied it, that she was well treated at the hospital.

"But they could have tortured her" the customer went on.

I gave up.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:04 PM
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27. don't their eyes sort of glaze over when they cross over into the twilight
zone?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:07 PM
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29. Scary, isn't it? nt
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:53 PM
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23. you have Sundance, I'm green with envy
I would love to see how Al looked because he sounded completely discombobulated.(if that's a word)
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:17 PM
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10. I'm with you. I heard it and it sounded very delicate but not
disrespectful on either side. The Col. didn't answer a single thing that I could hear.
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:14 PM
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8. Thanks for posting this, I thought something was odd.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 01:15 PM by fairfaxvadem
The guy sounded, well, stoned. Sorry, but he was SOOO Mellow. And he didn't know nothing about nothing.

It was a bit creepy actually.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:16 PM
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9. Why?
Why, oh, why would Franken buy into a setup like that? How stupid is he, exactly?

When will lefties catch on that giving "the other side" equal time is just a raging WASTE of time? When has Rush or any of those other talking butts given a leftie a realistic chance to make any kind of statement.

Take a clue from Deborah Lipstadt - http://tinyurl.com/c9exy - who refused to appear anywhere with any of those knuckledraggers who wanted to promote the absurd and ugly lie that the Holocause never happened.

We've got enough of our own stuff to discuss and to promote. Why give precious air time to the ones who would deny it to us, or, worse, who would just lie about what we believe?

I'm not real impressed with Air America so far, I am sorry to say.
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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:21 PM
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13. Franken did fine..
I don't think this was a "setup", I think it was a desperate attempt by the DoD at "Spin-Control" and it didn't work. Franken was very nice - but it's really weird when you even entertain the notion that a 50-ish comedian is some kind of bully compared to a U.S. Colonel on active duty.

Vyan
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:22 PM
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14. I love your beer drinking cat!
Been meaning to tell you.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:34 PM
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17. Someday, you know,
he's going to have to find a litter box.

A really big litter box .........
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:45 PM
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21. I'll bet you haven't looked in the back of your closet yet.
You know. Where you stashed those boxes of seasonal clothes.

:silly:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:02 PM
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26. (staring at screen ............
........ sitting alone, screaming)

:argh:
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:19 PM
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11. I didn't know the DOD asked Franken to have him on
I wondered what the deal was. But I don't think Al came off looking mean. He was nice as he always is to service men and women. The military guy just came across as clueless.

But it made me remember that when Al went over there, he said FOX News is on all the time and that's all the guys over there see.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:29 PM
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16. another rovian shitstain.
When are we going to learn?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:34 PM
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18. Bingo
As I said above, why do we keep buying into their agenda?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:36 PM
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19. SOP
peace
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:46 PM
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22. Know-nothing "southern comfort" dude from the DOD!!!!
Hilarious!!!!

Don't worry about it.

Not worth spinning wheels in the mud.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:53 PM
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24. I heard it, the Colonel was completely evasive.
He didn't answer any questions.

What struck me was how sad he sounded. Flat affect indicatinf depression or repression or both.

Franken had the guy pegged, I think.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:54 PM
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25. If Franken couldn't see that coming, or shift tactics once it came
Then Franken is a fucking idiot himself. Full stop.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:05 PM
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28. I'm In the Military
Think I could get the DOD to get me on Rush's show so I could debate him about whether or not I really am a "communist, heathen, socialist, wish more Americans get killed in Iraq, wacko, leftist, American hating French surrender monkey?"

:wtf:

Well, I'm just asking.

Here I thought I had proudly worn my countries uniform for more than 20 years because I love my country and the Constitution it is derived from. Luckily I listened to Rush and realized all my service has been a sham.

:puke:
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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:24 PM
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30. He was calling from a military hospital
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 02:26 PM by hnsez
IMHO thats why they requested he be put on, he was probably drugged up (hence peaceful sounding) to stop the pain from being a triple amputee thanks to a roadside bomb.

Good thing Franken didnt rage on him or the neocons would have used it to destroy him.

Any media liberals need to be extremely careful of stuff like this in the coming years, the neocons will use wounded veterans as a tool to show how unpatriotic it is not to support Iraq war.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:34 PM
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31. Are you shittin' me!!!! The DOD arranged THIS?!?!?!
MO-freakin'-HOs!!!!

Seriously, did the DOD arrange for a drugged-up amputee to call into the Frankin segment? If so, please, provide some source, some proof that what you say is true!!!! The whole of American society wants to know!!! :grr:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:38 PM
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32. I KID YOU NOT!!! IF THESE F*ers EXPLOITED AN AMPUTEE VET,...
,...THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE MOST FREAKIN' EVIL SCUM OF THIS EARTH!!!!

GIVE ME A SOURCE. GIVE ME PROOF!!!!!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:02 PM
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33. the best thing for you to do would be to listen to the segment when it
goes up on their archives.
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